How DOES the grounding boxes work?

[AJ Soundfield]

They work on a very simple, well know principle

 

[AJ Soundfield]

5 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

What makes you think I beleive in that post compared to me own ears?

I had no idea there were so many advocates for blind listening here. Bravo sir.

Yes, own ears is the way to test this.

No peeking, etc, etc

[AJ Soundfield]

6 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Teach me! ?

Start with learning how to use the proper test instrument for measuring such a device

 

[AJ Soundfield]

1 hour ago, Cornan said:

I am quite sure that anyone that have actually tried them are believers

Correct.

They won't work on non-believers, any more than a voodoo doll, power bracelet, exorcism, etc, etc.

I haven't tried any of those either, but I know with 100% certainty they have a profound effect on believers who have tried them. So we are in agreement, these things do work..on some.

Btw, I'm sure eating a piece of manure tastes like isht, but I have not tried that either to "experience it for myself" as others must do with everything. YMMV.

[AJ Soundfield]

Why do you need an objective crutch for your purely subjective perception?

Not enough to just "experience" it?

[AJ Soundfield]

31 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I am interested in any plausible explanation why the grounding boxes affects SQ.

No you aren't.

You are seeking an objective crutch for a subjective belief, due to unease.

You will completely dismiss the most plausible explanation, it's your imagination and instead seek some techno-babble "objective" one due to remote plausibility like grounding etc.

You won't test for either of course.

[AJ Soundfield]

57 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

You sure seem confident in knowing what others are thinking. With such a mind reading ability

Common sense isn't mind reading.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most obvious. But when the mission is avoidance of that possibility at all cost, more esoteric reasons must be chased.

 

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[AJ Soundfield]

14 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

 

Common sense is just a set of agreed rules, commonly accepted before somebody come and demonstrate it all wrong, or obsolete.

Agreed, so demonstrate walking on water or hearing this box (trust ears, just listening).

Otherwise, I'll stick to common sense.

[AJ Soundfield]

3 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

 

Demonstration would never be a problem. Acceptance is.

Lets see it (no pun intended)

[AJ Soundfield]

1 minute ago, Jud said:

Being confrontationally oppositional with individuals whose beliefs do not make sense

Wow, referring to the OP as one whose "beliefs do not make sense".

Sounds pretty contemptuous and assumptive to me.

Mind reader perhaps?

[AJ Soundfield]

19 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I have no problem accepting that a grounding box infact works as a kind of ground lift.

What about other plausible explanations? You did say "any".

[AJ Soundfield]

7 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

Do we still speak about grounding boxes?

 

Yes of course, Cornan and his box....but if you can walk on water, I'd love to see  that too!

[AJ Soundfield]

1 minute ago, Jud said:

 

Nope, just speaking generally of the studies and what they've found, and thus what the best strategy is if you feel you have information you can provide someone.

What studies specifically? You said "beliefs that make no sense".

How do they relate to discussions with audiophiles?

[AJ Soundfield]

3 hours ago, Cornan said:

 

I am no scientist. I have just my very own theories based on the properties of the tourmaline stones.

 

I am interested in any plausible explanation why the grounding boxes affects SQ. 

it seems this was incorrect. Only a very specific one is being sought.

[AJ Soundfield]

2 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

By any mean I would not steal the show from the guy who did it already.

Repeatability is key to scientific rigor! 

[AJ Soundfield]

4 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

I'm willing to look at whatever debunking information you have. Links please.

Of Amir being a quack? https://media.tenor.com/images/8156726442614ed2a8c8cf48a923db75/tenor.gif

[AJ Soundfield]

1 minute ago, YashN said:

I don't need to convince you, I've done my own work.

Translation: I got nothing but waving hands

[AJ Soundfield]

5 minutes ago, Jud said:

I understand how it's intended to be used.

Shouldn't the manufacturer make it clear, to avoid these kinds of threads??

[AJ Soundfield]

55 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I am dying to find out what they do enhance 

Your perception.

Another subject many have poor understanding of.

I'll ask again, why is it always so important to have an objective reason (grounding, noise, etc, etc) for your purely subjective perception?

You can't just like the box purely because it enhances your perception?

[AJ Soundfield]

21 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

2. People agreed that the box does change the sound because of the noise seen in the measurement

No. Unless we had measurements of Cornans system at speaker terminals or headphone elements.

Even then, a listening test by him, rather than using established JND thresholds, would be better.

[AJ Soundfield]

35 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Is there a more simple way to see if the antenna theory is correct or not

Hook it up to your tuner, see if you get Sveriges

[AJ Soundfield]

30 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Unfortunately I do not own a tuner. I'll guess I could check if any friends of mine own one though.

Or an AVR.

No HT AVR???

[AJ Soundfield]

2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Entreq boxes are carefully sealed/glued without any screws 

To prevent the rocks from falling out?

 

Your original post showed boxes with what looked like copper plates/foil inside. What's that about?

[AJ Soundfield]

1 minute ago, Jud said:

 

Yes, though we want to avoid the type of thinking I've sometimes seen in reference to these boxes, that the rocks they hold are in effect the same as earth/Earth.

I was only joking above. There really sell boxes of rocks to audiophiles?

[AJ Soundfield]

2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

According to Entreq any metal would affect the result of the Grounding boxes negatively. They should infact to be placed close to metal and works better when placed elevated from the floor.

I guess the pics in your original post threw me off.

So all joking aside, this thing could literally be a box of rocks??