jbpsrca Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi folks, Yahoo - all new digital music gear for me under the Xmas tree! I just wired up all my new toys - and I think I'm close, but still no sound. Does anyone have any trouble shooting tips? Windows 7 32 bit Home Premium > Media Monkey v3.2.0.1294 > asio4all.dll v.067 > Lynx AES16e w firmware v7.0a and mixer v2.0 build 17 RC 3e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers. Speaker and amps work fine when driven by normal analog components (used for testing only. analog components unplugged and not in chain for music server setup) When Media Monkey plays a song, the Berkeley DAC displays the proper sample rate, and switches between sample rates when the song switches (44.1k, 96k). DAC volume control shows volume going up / down and mute on/off. But no sound comes out. Any tips, or thoughts on what to look at? Seems to me if the DAC is displaying the sample rate, then Media Monkey and Lynx are doing their thing - at least partly right. I'm guessing I'm missing something pretty simple here. Thanks! out: Windows 7 > jriver mc14 > asio4all > Lynx AES16e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable (70ft) > Antelope DA Clock > Harmonic Technologies Magic Digital 1 AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers.[br]vinyl in: Lucid AD9624 > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Lynx AES16e > Windows 7 > Goldwave Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 with MM on and playing music open the lynx mixer and see if you have any blinking lights under the output tab in column 1 and 2 that show music is playing. If no blinking lights then look for something in mute. report back if all is good or not Jesus R www.sonore.us SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jbpsrca Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Lynx Mixer is showing output (blinking bars up to -3 db) in columns 1 and 2. Mute is off in both columns out: Windows 7 > jriver mc14 > asio4all > Lynx AES16e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable (70ft) > Antelope DA Clock > Harmonic Technologies Magic Digital 1 AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers.[br]vinyl in: Lucid AD9624 > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Lynx AES16e > Windows 7 > Goldwave Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 humm...that is good and your on the right track. Let me think about it! Jesus R www.sonore.us SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Do you have a CD player (or DVD player) you can connect to another input on the Berkerley to test that that DAC is working correctly? That will eliminate one issue. Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
casual viewer Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Try using the other output plug-ins. Go to Tools->Player->Output Plug-ins and try the different options. I had the same issue with pretty much the same set-up except Windows XP and the Japanese version of the ASIO. I had a situation where just a few files would only work with the standard plug-in. All the rest were okay. I never did get a chance to figure out how to fix this. I had to return the loaner Berkeley DAC and I am still waiting for delivery for my new DAC. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Need to rule out the dac. With the stock cable you could also feed output into the input of the card and confirm that the computer part is fine via the Lynx mixer. Jesus R www.sonore.us SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jbpsrca Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hi folks. great tips. Thanks. Eloise - I plugged a DVD player into the Berkeley DAC TOSLink, and it played fine. Jesus - I tried both of your suggestions, with some success: Recording: I had ordered a custom Redco cable that would allow me to record LPs to my Music Server, as well as output Music to the DAC. So I hooked up the input end of the Redco cable to my Lucid ADC fed by my turntable, and voila, it successfully recorded 96/24 and 44.1/16 files from LP thru the Lynx card using Goldwave recording software. In Goldwave, I set the Record Input Device to Lynx 9/10 inputs. Playback: Using Media Monkey, I switched from the ASIO output plugin to both the waveout.dll and the Media Monkey Direct Sound plugins - and when I select the Lynx 9/10 outputs, I get music thru the Berkeley DAC (yeahh!!) I could also Playback thru Goldwave, using the Lynx 9/10 output. Analysis: So my Redco cable was supposed to be wired with channels 1/2 as output, and 9/10 as input. But it sounds like both wires (input and output) terminate within the HD26 on the 9/10 channel. Does this sound right? Remaining questions / problems: If ASIO is supposed to give me best sound quality, it looks like it doesn't work on inputs 9/10 from the Lynx card. Whereas the Waveout.dll shows all 8 pairs of the Lynx channels, the ASIO plugin config options only shows 1 option: ASIO Lynx, and it seems to output to channels 1/2 (as viewed thru the Lynx mixer. When Media Monkey is set to the ASIO plugin, the Berkeley DAC does seem to see something, as it auto switches sample rates based on what song is playing (yeah!!) - even if it doesn't play sound. On the other hand, when playing songs form the waveout or MM Direct Sound plugins, the Berkeley DAC plays music, but it always shows sample rate of 44.1 - even when playing a 96k file. Does best bet sound like going to Redco, and asking them to fix the cable (assuming it's configured wrong?). Or are their other ideas? Thanks! out: Windows 7 > jriver mc14 > asio4all > Lynx AES16e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable (70ft) > Antelope DA Clock > Harmonic Technologies Magic Digital 1 AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers.[br]vinyl in: Lucid AD9624 > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Lynx AES16e > Windows 7 > Goldwave Link to comment
casual viewer Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I didn't have a chance to test this, but I think this is the issue. Are you playing back material sourced from iTunes? If so, try burning a CD using something other than iTunes. Then, see if you can play through the ASIO plug-in. Link to comment
jbpsrca Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Ahh... thanks for the thought, but no iTunes in this house (I'm not a fan of it). All testing so far with Media Monkey, Goldwave, and WMP. All files ripped from CD via EAC. 96k files from HDTracks or recorded from LP with Goldwave. Cheers! out: Windows 7 > jriver mc14 > asio4all > Lynx AES16e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable (70ft) > Antelope DA Clock > Harmonic Technologies Magic Digital 1 AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers.[br]vinyl in: Lucid AD9624 > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Lynx AES16e > Windows 7 > Goldwave Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 IIRC doesn't the Lynx have jumpers to select either Input 1-8 on one connector and Output 1-8 on other connector; or to have Input 1-4 and Output 1-4 on one connector and Input 5-8 and Output 5-8 on the other - are these jumpers set correctly?? Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 make a chart and compare the pins on the cable to the pins in the Lynxs website. I don't want to guess what they did or did not do, but have them fix it. ASIO4All: are you in the config in MM or are you running the config in Windows via start. Try the one in Windows via start to set the channels first then open MM. I'm not sure as I'm doing this from memory and it was a few months back. Jesus R www.sonore.us SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jbpsrca Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi folks, Thanks for everyone's comments. I got it working. Combination fo some of the Lynx mixer settings, and the connections to the Lynx card. Everything is working beautifully now. I appreciate all of your help. Couldn't have done it without you. Cheers! out: Windows 7 > jriver mc14 > asio4all > Lynx AES16e > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable (70ft) > Antelope DA Clock > Harmonic Technologies Magic Digital 1 AES/EBU cable > Berkeley Alpha DAC > AudioQuest Cheetah RCA interconnects > NuForce Ref 9 v2 SE amps > Nordost Red Dawn II speaker cables > Magnepan 3.6R speakers.[br]vinyl in: Lucid AD9624 > Redco custom Gotham AES/EBU cable > Lynx AES16e > Windows 7 > Goldwave Link to comment
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