Allo Sparky USBridge

[volpone]

32 minutes ago, ALLOsupport said:

Thanks for the info. we will discuss with Dan.

 

Thank's.

Current Web Gui behavior is an important limitation to use USBridge with LMS (SqueezeLite output) .

Lof of users needs to use DoP output to feed DSD DAC's.

[ambre]

There are more bugs in the Allo Web GUI. 

 

ONE OF  THE MAJOR SELLING POINTS OF THE ALLO USB BRIDGE is the use of the Allo GUI.

 

The update of new versions of DietPi by means of the Allo Web Gui isn't working any longer.

Apparently since version V6.11 version on-wards DIETPI update works...... only through ssh terminal / monitor +key board.

 

Really clumsy. It seems that the Allo USBridge is not longer supported by Allo &  DietPi !😩😡

 

 

 

 

[volpone]

1 hour ago, ambre said:

There are more bugs in the Allo Web GUI. 

ONE OF  THE MAJOR SELLING POINTS OF THE ALLO USB BRIDGE is the use of the Allo GUI.

The update of new versions of DietPi by means of the Allo Web Gui isn't working any longer.

Apparently since version V6.11 version on-wards DIETPI update works...... only through ssh terminal / monitor +key board.

Really clumsy. It seems that the Allo USBridge is not longer supported by Allo &  DietPi !😩😡

 

 

Hi @ambre, i perfectly understand your complaints but, IMHO, DietPi version update only available from ssh / terminal  not a major drawback.

- Update is not, always, mandatory 

- DietPi update from terminal is a single command, very easy to type.

- Update reliability is the key point (see recent issues with SOtM eunhasu 4.5 update  https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-firmware-sotm-eunhasu-0-4-5/ )

- DietPi new version to be released allow "auto-update"  

 

I use USBridge (DietPi / Allo Web Gui) daily for over a year and i am very satisfied both in terms of performance , reliability and support.

Thank's and congrats to DietPi and Allo teams. Good job ! 

[ambre]

Dear Volpone,

 

In my opinion, it is not a good sign that a company like Allo does not have its own ALLO Web GUI updated by the DietPi -team.

This indicates no interest / involvement with the product and little or no respect for their customers.

 

The updating may be fairly easy when you have connected everything. However, in a headless (without keyboard) setup this is very awkward.

 

By the way you accept Allo's behavior very easily. With the reference that another company has arranged much worse.

 

This is a very awkward reasoning.You would almost..... think that you have some business interests.

 

Long story short..... the Allo USbridge remains a hobby and computer freak product instead of a Consumer friendly solution.

 

[Tintinabulum]

26 minutes ago, ambre said:

 

 

Long story short..... the Allo USbridge remains a hobby and computer freak product instead of a Consumer friendly solution.

 

Well this is a computer audio site, not HiFi News. SSH isn't rocket science. Allo produce great products at really low prices, adds up for me.

[bassivus]

41 minutes ago, ambre said:

Dear Volpone,

 

In my opinion, it is not a good sign that a company like Allo does not have its own ALLO Web GUI updated by the DietPi -team.

This indicates no interest / involvement with the product and little or no respect for their customers.

 

The updating may be fairly easy when you have connected everything. However, in a headless (without keyboard) setup this is very awkward.

 

By the way you accept Allo's behavior very easily. With the reference that another company has arranged much worse.

 

This is a very awkward reasoning.You would almost..... think that you have some business interests.

 

Long story short..... the Allo USbridge remains a hobby and computer freak product instead of a Consumer friendly solution.

 

i don't want to offend anyone but I really don't understand what else did you expect at this price level ...

[ambre]

Dear Bassivus  & Tintinablum,

 

Please read my reaction a bit more carefully!  Price or price level isn't the issue.

 

I was using approx.1,5 years the Allo Web GUI (especially for updating)  to my satisfaction .  

 

Without any form of communication, the service related to the Allo Web Gui is stopped. 

Respectively the possibility of updating is no longer supported.

That's the issue that I have mentioned. 

 

My feeling says when If it is no longer supported it might be  a signal that something is going out of production respectively becomes obsolete. Hopefully I'm wrong.

#

[bassivus]

29 minutes ago, ambre said:

Dear Bassivus  & Tintinablum,

 

Please read my reaction a bit more carefully!  Price or price level isn't the issue.

 

I was using approx.1,5 years the Allo Web GUI (especially for updating)  to my satisfaction .  

 

Without any form of communication, the service related to the Allo Web Gui is stopped. 

Respectively the possibility of updating is no longer supported.

That's the issue that I have mentioned. 

 

My feeling says when If it is no longer supported it might be  a signal that something is going out of production respectively becomes obsolete. Hopefully I'm wrong.

#

My apologies, haven been careful  on reading... I believe you are experiencing some problem in this case. My Allo Web Gui is working fine...

[volpone]

On 1/3/2019 at 6:20 PM, ambre said:

....

This is a very awkward reasoning.You would almost..... think that you have some business interests.

Long story short..... the Allo USbridge remains a hobby and computer freak product instead of a Consumer friendly solution.

 

Hi @ambre 
Unfortunately (or perhaps happily) I have no business interests neither with ALLO nor with DietPi.
Apart from the WEB GUI issue to update DietPi , what is exactly your problem ?

 

[ambre]

Dear Volpone,

 

Please read my latest post to Bassivus  & Tintinablum, and the reaction of Bassivus.

👀

[GerardA]

Hi All,

 

I just received my Allo Usbridge this week and managed to get it working with hqplayer.

But with squeezeboxlite on my nas or ompd on the usbridge/laptopbrowser the music seems to play but there is no sound.

What can be the reason for this?

 

(I updated dietpi from 6.9 to 6.19.7)

[Audiophraenque]

Hi,

 

I did setup my Allo USBbridge with Roon and its sounds great.

BUT: I hate that ugly out of the box sticking eMMC card. That's ugly and venerable.

Can I use just a Micro SD card en flash it with the same software?

[GerardA]

Is the DAC the problem and not recognized?

 

root@DietPi:~# cat /proc/asound/card1/stream0
VIA Technologies Inc. FURUTECH ADL GT40α at usb-aotg_hcd.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

Playback:
  Status: Stop
  Interface 1
    Altset 1
    Format: S16_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 4 OUT (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
    Data packet interval: 500 us
  Interface 1
    Altset 2
    Format: S24_3LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 4 OUT (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
    Data packet interval: 500 us

Capture:
  Status: Stop
  Interface 2
    Altset 1
    Format: S16_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 11 IN (ADAPTIVE)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
    Data packet interval: 1000 us
  Interface 2
    Altset 2
    Format: S24_3LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 11 IN (ADAPTIVE)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
    Data packet interval: 500 us
 

[volpone]

On 1/3/2019 at 11:41 AM, ALLOsupport said:

Thanks for the info. we will discuss with Dan.

 

Hi @ALLOsupport

 

Have you been able to discuss with Dan about missing Allo Web Gui DoP option with SqueezeLite?

See:  https://github.com/Fourdee/DietPi/issues/2386

Regards

[GerardA]

A necessary follow up.

The ATL GT40alfa does not get recognized and that way the usb-dac - option does not work.

With another dac the minidsp 2x4HD I got it to work consistently with Roon.

Turning the dac or the usbridge off and on is no problem.

But what bothered me was the sound, not really inspriring, boring and sounding not right.

So I tried the second power adapter option.

I put a 12 euro 5V, 2 amps microusb charger on the sparky and removed the jumper.....

Left the standard Allo one on the usbridge.

Wow, this is something else! Acoustics around the instruments, voice complete with every intonation, stable soundstage and real depth. (Funny that the music appears to slow down....)

Very interesting and enjoyable to listen to!

 

So I would recommend Allo to add a second poweradapter to the package and get everyone enthousistic.

And for who is still using a single adapter please do yourself a favour and buy a second (cheap) one.

 

( I also put a 6.18 image on a sd-card to get it working as standard and problemfree)

[bassivus]

23 hours ago, GerardA said:

A necessary follow up.

The ATL GT40alfa does not get recognized and that way the usb-dac - option does not work.

With another dac the minidsp 2x4HD I got it to work consistently with Roon.

Turning the dac or the usbridge off and on is no problem.

But what bothered me was the sound, not really inspriring, boring and sounding not right.

So I tried the second power adapter option.

I put a 12 euro 5V, 2 amps microusb charger on the sparky and removed the jumper.....

Left the standard Allo one on the usbridge.

Wow, this is something else! Acoustics around the instruments, voice complete with every intonation, stable soundstage and real depth. (Funny that the music appears to slow down....)

Very interesting and enjoyable to listen to!

 

So I would recommend Allo to add a second poweradapter to the package and get everyone enthousistic.

And for who is still using a single adapter please do yourself a favour and buy a second (cheap) one.

 

( I also put a 6.18 image on a sd-card to get it working as standard and problemfree)

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

@GerardA

Your post inspired me to finally move my lazy ass, remove the jumper and use my dedicated PS on USBridge and the supplied smps for Sparky. WOW!!! Everything fell in place. got even more depth and instruments came to life. Also the bass is tighter

I actually was planning to do so for a period of time now but the dedicated PS I have build,gave me a big improvement already so I got lazy, and honestly I thought that is what this rig can give. I'm soo glad that I was wrong!

[volpone]

On 1/17/2019 at 10:23 PM, bassivus said:

... Your post inspired me to finally move my lazy ass, remove the jumper and use my dedicated PS on USBridge and the supplied smps for Sparky. WOW!!! Everything fell in place. got even more depth and instruments came to life. Also the bass is tighter ...

Hi @bassivus

Very interested in your feedback. What is your dedicated PS model ?

There is a lot of models on the market from 60$ to near 1000$.

I'm looking for a PS recommandation to enhance my USBridge output (jumper OFF).

Thank's

[bassivus]

Hi @volpone

I'm DIY-er for over 15 years, although when I started back then I had no knowledge at all. That's what I like on internet today. Free knowledge for all who want to learn.
I have build myself a AMB Lab Sigma 11 PS https://www.amb.org/audio/sigma11/

and added  some of additional HF filtering at the end of line. All boxed and running kept my cost under 60$

BR Ivica

[volpone]

2 hours ago, bassivus said:

...
I have build myself a AMB Lab Sigma 11 PS https://www.amb.org/audio/sigma11/

...

 

Thank you @bassivus.
Sadly not having skills to DIY. Rather looking for "on the shelf" solution.

[DaveLemi]

Hello, Received USBridge yesterday and having difficulty. Apple devices are not recognizing Usbridge on my network. I have access to GIU and ensured Shairpoint settings are 16bit and USB 1.1 (using AQ Red & MiniDSP 2x4HD- tried both).

Attached picture taken with AQ Red attached- it's not showing up as an output device. Please help- hopefully I'm missing a step and any help is sincerely appreciated!

[luisma]

Anyone knows how to solve the issue of the Allo Bridge with NAA getting in Roon "Roon lost control of the device"? doesn't happen with Roon Bridge running on the allo bridge just with the HQP NAA

 

Any of you flashed the Sparky DietPi without the Allo GUI and it is working for you?

 

[volpone]

1 hour ago, luisma said:

Anyone knows how to solve the issue of the Allo Bridge with NAA getting in Roon "Roon lost control of the device"? doesn't happen with Roon Bridge running on the allo bridge just with the HQP NAA

 

Any of you flashed the Sparky DietPi without the Allo GUI and it is working for you?

 

 

Hi @luisma, using daily USBridge with NAA (from ROON): Not such issue, very stable

My setup: ROON 1.6 > HQP Desktop 3.25  > USBridge (DietPi 6.19) / NAA (3.5.4) > T+A DAC8 DSD (Amanero USB)

[luisma]

21 minutes ago, volpone said:

 

Hi @luisma, using daily USBridge with NAA (from ROON): Not such issue, very stable

My setup: ROON 1.6 > HQP Desktop 3.25  > USBridge (DietPi 6.19) / NAA (3.5.4) > T+A DAC8 DSD (Amanero USB)

My setup

 

ROON 1.6 > HQP Embedded  > USBridge (DietPi 6.19) / NAA (How do you find out the version number?) > Denafrips Terminator(Amanero USB)

 

Someone else have the issue too https://community.roonlabs.com/t/allo-usbridge-board/27487/1307?u=zbyte

[volpone]

51 minutes ago, luisma said:

My setup

 

ROON 1.6 > HQP Embedded  > USBridge (DietPi 6.19) / NAA (How do you find out the version number?) > Denafrips Terminator(Amanero USB)

 

Someone else have the issue too https://community.roonlabs.com/t/allo-usbridge-board/27487/1307?u=zbyte

 

root@USBridge:~# apt-cache policy networkaudiod
networkaudiod:
  Installé : 3.5.4-38
  Candidat : 3.5.4-38
 Table de version :
 *** 3.5.4-38 100

[luisma]

thanks, same version

 

root@ALLO-LIVING:~# apt-cache policy networkaudiod
networkaudiod:
  Installed: 3.5.4-38
  Candidate: 3.5.4-38
  Version table:
 *** 3.5.4-38 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

don't know what could it be happening, HQP Win vs HQPE ? should be the same