Sonore Signature Rendu SE Deluxe

[barrows]

37 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

Thanks, Barrows. I will email Jesus for upgrade information. In my experience with automotive applications, carbon fiber can be crazy expensive even for small pieces, but the top of a Sig SE cabinet isn't huge. 

I think Jesus was just looking for some feedback on the idea, we are certainly not prepared to offer the carbon fiber top panel yet.

[Mike Rubin]

Just now, barrows said:

I think Jesus was just looking for some feedback on the idea, we are certainly not prepared to offer the carbon fiber top panel yet.

Thanks for the clarification. My input: depends entirely on the cost. :) 

[lsantista]

Hi, are there plans to include I2S out on future design revisions?

[barrows]

16 minutes ago, lsantista said:

Hi, are there plans to include I2S out on future design revisions?

Personally, I2S is a rather weak format, and well implemented USB is superior, especially with the quality of the USB output from the Signature.  We do offer the ultraDigital as a solution for those who must have I2S or SPDIF capability, and it works very, very well in concert with the Signature Rendu SEoptical.  See here:

 

http://www.sonore.us/ultraDigital.html

 

[lsantista]

Thank you for replying, I do own the OpR and the UltraDigital, and so far found no difference between using I2S and USB with my Holo Spring but my system is still new and burning in and havent had the chance for more in depht testing.

Still, when considering the possibility of upgrading in the future, droping the use of an extra box (and PSU since I have the old design of the Ultra) would be nice. But I do hear you, and see the potential drawbacks to have an extra, not used output, that also adds to final cost

[vortecjr]

10 hours ago, lsantista said:

Thank you for replying, I do own the OpR and the UltraDigital, and so far found no difference between using I2S and USB with my Holo Spring but my system is still new and burning in and havent had the chance for more in depht testing.

Still, when considering the possibility of upgrading in the future, droping the use of an extra box (and PSU since I have the old design of the Ultra) would be nice. But I do hear you, and see the potential drawbacks to have an extra, not used output, that also adds to final cost

What output protocol are you using on your Rendu?

[lsantista]

Sorry if I dont get your question straight, but I send USB to the Spring 3 KTE. Last week my UDigital arrived (got it used) and I installed it for a week but as mentioned found it non superior to the USB. I mostly use use qobuz with hqplayer via roon. So, 768 with USB and used 384 with i2S. Again, I didnt do any real testing with matched rates etc, but may do later. In general my ears can't really detect any change of sampling rates but so far I seen to prefer using HQplayer than straight qobuz or roon.

[barrows]

1 hour ago, lsantista said:

Sorry if I dont get your question straight, but I send USB to the Spring 3 KTE. Last week my UDigital arrived (got it used) and I installed it for a week but as mentioned found it non superior to the USB. I mostly use use qobuz with hqplayer via roon. So, 768 with USB and used 384 with i2S. Again, I didnt do any real testing with matched rates etc, but may do later. In general my ears can't really detect any change of sampling rates but so far I seen to prefer using HQplayer than straight qobuz or roon.

I am not surprised: given the quality of the USB output of the Signature, and the USB input on the Spring 3 KTE, I would expect USB to provide the best performance possible (given a quality USB cable as well, it matters at this level) and there would be no reason to mess with the added complexity and jitter of I2S connections.

[pietka08]

Hello, I'm from Poland. I'm thinking about changing Auralic Aries Femto to Sonore Signature Rendu SE. I have a question, is it possible to test SonoreS SE before making a purchase decision? Where in the EU can I get it. Sorry for my English.

[barrows]

44 minutes ago, pietka08 said:

Hello, I'm from Poland. I'm thinking about changing Auralic Aries Femto to Sonore Signature Rendu SE. I have a question, is it possible to test SonoreS SE before making a purchase decision? Where in the EU can I get it. Sorry for my English.

Please contact Sonore's VP directly with your questions at this e-mail address:

 

[email protected]

 

Thanks for your interest in The Signature Rendu SEoptical!

[lsantista]

Hi, can the Sig Rendu voltage easily be changed by the user? 

[barrows]

1 hour ago, lsantista said:

Hi, can the Sig Rendu voltage easily be changed by the user? 

No, the Signature Rendu is hard wired for either 115 VAC or 230 VAC (except for Japan units).  The unit must be returned to Sonore for AC input voltage conversion.

[mtcs]

I am a long time user of rendu products, from micro to ultra. I hope to get theSignature rendu se soon. I love the sound quality, the ease of use and reliabilty. I heartily recommend all Sonore and Small Green Computer products.

[MartinT]

I can only confirm, once again, that the Signature Rendu SE remains a superlative streamer and is the core of my system.  It has lower noise than any other product I've tried and easily reveals the effects of using different optical cables, let alone the wonderful soundstage and bass performance.

 

[R1200CL]

Just think about the possibly an external 50 ohm 10MHz sine wave clock input would add to the Sigature Rendu 😀

 

 

[vortecjr]

6 hours ago, R1200CL said:

Just think about the possibly an external 50 ohm 10MHz sine wave clock input would add to the Sigature Rendu 😀

 

 

It’s possible, but we are not considering it for any of the current products in the line up.

[Mike Rubin]

Since this thread has become a place to add Signature Rendu SE reviews in support of the upgrade to 2.9, please allow me to add my own comments here.

 

I have owned several streamers over the years, including Raspberry Pi4, iFi, and Sonore microRendu and UltraRendu, but I haven't used or heard any streaming device that compares to this one.  The combination of the top-end power supply and the fiber connection make the SE's sound a far more sophisticated, noise-free one than those even of the other Sonore products (which, of course, cost less).  The Signature SE also benefits from high quality ethernet cables, SPF's, and USB cables in the signal chain. The software options also make it easy to switch to DLNA or LMS playback when HQPlayer becomes "quirky."  It has played native DSD to each of the four DACs (three ESS, one AKG) with which I have paired it.

 

Like every product, the Signature SE has a few downsides. Particularly, when returning attention to the unit after some time away, I sometimes have to reboot all of my PC, FMC, DAC, and Signature SE to reestablish the signal path.  I also have a few times had the operating system SD card become corrupted.

 

When I have had questions about any of these or other issues, Sonore's customer service has been exemplary. All of Jesus, Adrian, and Barrows are responsive and helpful. 

 

I have turned over almost every other item in my signal chain since purchasing the Signature SE. I have no intention of replacing it, as each upgrade elsewhere has made the Signature SE sound even better as a source.  Bravo!

[ssh]

Good to see another 1ET400A user!

[vortecjr]

On 8/11/2023 at 3:14 AM, Mike Rubin said:

 

Like every product, the Signature SE has a few downsides. Particularly, when returning attention to the unit after some time away, I sometimes have to reboot all of my PC, FMC, DAC, and Signature SE to reestablish the signal path.  I also have a few times had the operating system SD card become corrupted.

This can be overcome knowing the specific circumstances. 

[amsco15]

Has anyone attempted to polish their Signature Rendu SE faceplate?  don't know how (only used microfiber to dust), but my faceplate has lots of micro scratches on the piano black finish.  It's not terrible but my gear sees a decent amount of sunshine through a south facing window.  I can see the smudges from my listening position.

 

There are a lot of video on polishing piano black car parts.  Seems like it would work.  I would mask any lettering.

 

Thanks!!

[CL65]

I am using the supplied Synergistic Research Purple fuse.  Anyone here try the newer SR Master fuse with their Signature Rendu SE?  If so which fuse was preferred?  Thanks for any details!

[barrows]

On 10/17/2023 at 12:43 PM, CL65 said:

I am using the supplied Synergistic Research Purple fuse.  Anyone here try the newer SR Master fuse with their Signature Rendu SE?  If so which fuse was preferred?  Thanks for any details!

We here at Sonore have not tried the new Master Fuse, given the expense, it is hard to consider it!  But if anyone does try on, please report your results here, as we love to know how much better this new fuse might be.

[barrows]

On 10/17/2023 at 12:43 PM, CL65 said:

I am using the supplied Synergistic Research Purple fuse.  Anyone here try the newer SR Master fuse with their Signature Rendu SE?  If so which fuse was preferred?  Thanks for any details!

Update:  Sonore VP has tried the Synergistic Master Fuse, and reports it does result in an improvement.  As always, I am hesitant to recommend it due to the very high price-but if everything else in your system is "perfected", perhaps a Master fuse is what you need to gain that last little bit of sonic bliss.  Sonore will offer the Master Fuse as a special order option for the Signature.  Please note that it is unlikely that we would stock these fuses due to the cost, but we will special order them for new Signature builds if requested. 

[Mercman]

I ordered the new Signature Rendu SE optical v3 the other day. Looking forward to sharing my sonic impressions of this new update.

[AudioDoctor]

Am I dumb or is there not as thread regarding the updates to the Signature Rendu SE?