Popular Post Booster MPS Posted May 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2017 8 hours ago, Sal1950 said: Can you see the hypocrisy in those two paragraph? What @The Computer Audiophile is saying is that he is acknowledging that we all have a right to vote with our dollars in any way they see fit. If Chick Fil A was the only food available to him, then yeah, saying I won't eat there is against self interests. The reality is that there are plenty of places to buy food or groceries. Our self interests here are promoting and growing the music hobby. Sure you can go to Spotify or some other source but those options are really limited when it comes to lossless. The reality is that Sean Carter does not get out of bed every morning sending his Tidal minions out to grow an illegal empire while selling drugs to teens, collecting protection payments from competitors, and leaving dead bodies in his wake. You are promoting rejecting an entire business/service that is at the hub of all things that we want as audiophiles because of what a partial owner did in his youth. "I'm not a businessman, I'm a business ........ man!" I tried to stay away from this, but it happens on the topic of rap in CA again, and again. Let's call it what it is, because if we saw it anywhere else we would recognize it - this is a problematic case of race and diversity at play. Rap having it's origins in the black community is a genre that many/most white/non-white people don't relate to and is too often associated with the worst of our race, socio-economic, and diversity problems in America (I fully realize that we are an international community here at CA). Why is this genre rejected wholesale so quickly and rapidly unlike any other here? Let's not tip toe around that. We don't reject all classical music because a few conductors or composers were a jerk on the podium, roughed up a reviewer, or walked out during a performance. We adore Miles Davis, but lest we forget his dark past with drugs and his relationships with women. And Miles is only one example of many sorted backgrounds of Jazz musicians. Is Jazz a genre that is rejected here at CA? I don't think so. Lots of jazz discussions here at CA. We could also certainly pick on the culture around electronica/EDM concerts as well if we wanted to. You could go on and on with any genre. Sorry to take this off topic on this article but it kind of has to be said. I am not an apologist for all rap music or here to defend the most violent/misogynistic/cruel/graphic extremes of the genre. But let's judge and consider the merits of all genre with the same level of moral outrage, right? Does an entire genre deserve outrage? I don't think so. There is something out there for everybody in the world of music. Melvin, The Computer Audiophile, jhwalker and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Popular Post Booster MPS Posted May 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2017 4 hours ago, crenca said: It is absurd, but that IS what the man (i.e. Booster) is saying...he is careful to avoid the word of course. @Sal1950 and @crenca - The word racist was not used because I don't have grounds to use that label for a person, preference, or policy that was being discussed here. Look guys, I did not craft a clever message with the intent to stop "just short" of indictment to call anyone out. What I said is that this predictable, constant, and singular disdain for this one genre is a product of our relationship with race/diversity, at least in the States. I am not sorry if that rubs some the wrong way. The problem that I am pointing to is looking at this discussion on the Tidal streaming predictably devolving into members throwing stones at Jay Z and rap music. That is fact and it comes from looking at the rap genre from only within most member's experience and not being able to/willing to consider ANY of it outside of their experience. You know the one thing, about the one person in rap, or you heard the one song that offended you, and everything about it offends you. If I told you that Blue Jay Z's daughter was a prodigy classical pianist at the age of 5, I guess even she is guilty by association and worthy of everybody checking in to vote in that discussion - I hate rap and Jay Z. I have no idea of the race of anybody here, but I will stand up and identify as a 40's black guy who is from the south. The deep south. My parents lived the majority of their life under Jim Crow. Google the Michael Donald lynching, that is my home town and I remember that event vividly. So I am saying I have lived this and know a little bit about the topic of race, racism, and our troubled relationship with race and diversity in the States. But my blackness does not make me the defacto rap music expert so don't take that away from this discussion. I am not the ordained apologist for CA. Nobody is a racist for not liking rap or Jay Z, but when anything rap/Jay Z related goes down and all the hate comes out.....wow. It's like people post just to "make sure their rap hate is counted" yet again. We don't do that for any other genre and discussion here. Why does it happen for this one. watercourse, AudioDoctor, 4est and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Booster MPS Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 This seems to happen in the tech world quite a bit. MacRumors seems to always be breaking announcements of changes in the C Suite at Apple with talent seemingly leaving great jobs to come to Apple or the other way around. Those in the industry could probably add more to that thought. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
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