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Rap and HipHop are genres I will never listen to as I don't enjoy the instrumentation nor the lyrics. More power to those that do like it.....I'll never get it. And I like aspects of all this stuff:

 

 Alternative

 Blues

 Classical

 Country

 Dance

 Easy Listening

 Indie Pop

 Inspirational (incl. Gospel)

 Jazz

 Latin

 Musicals

 New Age

 Opera

 Pop

 R&B / Soul

 Reggae

 Rock

 Singer / Songwriter (inc. Folk)

 

So don't label me a snob.

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I love Blues and Jazz.....rap and hip-hop may come from the same culture, many generations removed, as Blues and Jazz but, I see little commonality in the music itself.

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6 minutes ago, firedog said:

Acc'd to your incorrect viewpoint...

 

Here again only your viewpoint is the correct one. I see a trend.....

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Yes, you can be pedantic (as usual) and argue that by definition, rap and hip-hop are music. But, not everyone is bound the definitions in a dictionary and are allowed to suggest that rap and hip-hop, as far as they are concerned, are not music. Lots of people don't think they are music. Just do a Google search.

 

I certainly don't like rap or hip-hop. More often than not the words (I refuse to call them lyrics since they rarely poetic) disgust me. Nor do I like the music. It's not any more music to me that a a kid banging trash can lids together.

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Since LM wrote it, it had to be "as far as he's concerned" since he didn't quote anyone else.

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1 hour ago, findog3103 said:

Hip-hop is just a natural extension from jazz, blues, rock, etc.

 

Let's not overstep here. Hip-Hop is nothing like Jazz, Blues, or even Rock musically.

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So, because some rock songs use melodies from Classical music, the Rock genre is a natural extension of the Classical genre?

 

That is flawed logic... 

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26 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

This is the most ignorant comment I've seen on these forums.

 

Nah...it's just close minded which is Larry's right. It's a sentiment I understand since I really dislike rap/hip-hop. But I realize we are all different and when/where we were born dramatically affects our perceptions/opinions on this subject. So I give rap/hip-hop the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the "Is it music?" question as it is clearly music to some people.

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25 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

He can say what he wants, and I can respond to it in kind.

 

I certainly wasn't trying to stifle the expression of opinions!

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If all you can come up is "rhythmic sophistication", you can keep it......

 

Sorry, rap/Hip-Hop sucks as far as I am concerned. No amount of "rhythmic sophistication" is going to make it any better. 

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17 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

Again, not saying you have to like it, but:

 

- Who invented fusion?  Miles Davis.

 

- Who did Miles Davis, inventor of fusion and one of the musical giants of the century, then go on to work with for his final album?  That's right, a hip-hop artist.  Good enough musical chops for Miles, good enough for me.

 

 

Well, let's no go overboard here. First of all, he wanted to capture some of the hip hop beats and use those in some new songs. That's a far cry from embracing Hip-Hop.

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23 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

There's a guy rapping on the album, right?  Miles was planning on taking him on tour.

 

I saw Miles twice, and especially the second time, people were dancing their ass off.  He wasn't some withdrawn genius (though genius he was).  He wanted people, to use the title of one of his albums, to Get Up With It.

 

Excuse me. I forgot where I was. There is only one person who can be right here at Computer Audiophile and, of course, it is you.

 

Yes, of course, Miles was going to turn into a Hip-Hop artist. How could I have been so blind. 

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18 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

Umm, 'cause he died?

 

 

Of course, I forgot you have a crystal ball too. Certainly Miles would have found commercial success with his Hip-Hop sound and were have made a dozen Hip-Hop infused albums. These albums would have been viewed as Miles' best work and the whole country would embrace the sound.

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Sure. As soon you all let DRB100 have his own opinion without being told he is wrong.

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38 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

People shouldn't take music literally just like they don't take movies literally. Sure, some of it is autobiographical, but entertainers play characters and sing about fantasy most of the time. Marshall Matthers neighbors in Detroit think he is the nicest guy in town. When he raps, he is the character of Eminem. If we come down hard on rappers for the content of their raps, we must also come down hard on movie actors who portray characters we see as "wrong."

 

I completely disagree with this. The music of a people reflects much more closely on their feelings and attitudes than the movies they choose to attend.

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46 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

The largest consumers of rap music have traditionally been white kids from the suburbs. That included me back in the day. I listened the heck out of NWA's Straight Outta Compton. It reflected a totally different life from mine and at no time did I think it was good to kill cops or that the members of NWA were killing cops. I certainly listened to Fuck Tha Police many many times though.

 

 

Considering the size of the white poplulation, why is that so hard to believe? And, what does that have to do with anything anyway?

 

It may reflect a life totally different than yours. But for the guys writing the words, and the community they come from, not so much. That's why the words are so vile.....it's how they actually think.

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1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Wow.

 

P.S. Do you advocated against horror movies as well?

 

No...because horror movies are fiction for everyone.....