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3 minutes ago, christian u said:

wow. I guess you are happy that the cost of hard drives are going down:D

 

Yes, the ever dropping cost of hard drives and NAS storage means that we can download and enjoy high resolution Stereo and Surround Sound music files without the need for data reduction (MP3, AAC, DTS, Dolby, MQA, etc).   Good news indeed ! 

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1 hour ago, oso said:

It is maybe also a question of what your DAC is good at....no? One DAC is better with PCM and another with DSD?

 

That's why it's good to try out some sample music downloads in different formats and bit rates before buying. 

 

For example, the Free Downloads in the "Members" section on NativeDSD Music have sample music tracks in multiple versions (Stereo and Multichannel DSD 64, 128, 256 or DXD).  Just set up a free account and download some samples to see which sounds best on your system.

https://members.nativedsd.com/

 

On the DACs and Players I have with DSD and DXD, the DSD tracks sound better.  Even when they come from DXD edited masters or DXD recordings.  Not what you would expect but it turns out that way here. 

 

Also, some PCM DACs do not play DXD files.  So be sure your DAC does play them before buying. 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, fredlobo said:

My Teac NT-503 plays DXDs and  DSDs (up to 2x) just fine.  Still evaluating DACs that can do 4xDSD.  What I like about 4x is that is pushes the quantization error far out of the audible range.

 

The good news is that many of the newer DACs with DSD are coming out with DSD 256 included. 

Check the NativeDSD Database for a complete list at the DSD DACs and Players tab

http://www.nativedsd.com/database 

 

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8 hours ago, oso said:

Hi AudioBill 

I found your reply very helpful. I think you are absolutely right. What I mean is you will have to have the recording in both formats, DXD and DSD, to know which sounds best on your system.

 

I guess that on Sound Liaisons system it will be the DXD since their recording system is build to record DSD.

 

 

 

You can also compare DSD (at bit rates up to DSD 256) and DXD in the "Members Area" over at NativeDSD Music.  Free downloads when you set up an account.

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https://members.nativedsd.com/albums/just-listen-1-compilation

https://members.nativedsd.com/

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12 minutes ago, elcorso said:

 

Some recordings engineers like better DXD since being PCM it's easier to edit than direct DSD recordings.

 

In my case, as a listener only, I like better pure DSD recordings and do not like DXD (PCM) to DSD converted music.

 

Just my taste,

 

Roch

 

And some don't.  

 

At the recent LA Audio Show, Cookie Marenco from Blue Coast Music said she didn't like listening to DXD "for even one second"... :)

 

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46 minutes ago, oso said:

Native DSD seems to have embraced DXD. And I wonder if anyone can hear the difference between a DXD recording converted to DSD 256 or one recorded straight to DSD. I  understand that the Carmen Gomes recording was recorded straight to tape as well. Would be interesting if Sound Liaison would release the tape version in DSD next to the version converted from DXD.

 

NativeDSD is making DXD files available as well as DSD files up to DSD256.  In the end, NativeDSD leaves it up to the listener to decide which edition of the album they prefer.  The NativeDSD Blog describes it:

 

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Ultimately the Listener Decides

The merits of DSD are great, regardless of bit rate. As technology moves forward, opportunities arise to advance the state of the recording and playback art, and that’s what the higher DSD bit rates (DSD 128fs and DSD 256fs) allow. It’s for each listener to say when they are satisfied with their sound quality results.

As a recording producer or engineer, we believe it’s always never good enough. That’s one of the reasons NativeDSD goes to the effort of offering all three DSD bit rates to listeners, as well as the original edited DXD masters for those projects of which we have these files.

It’s ultimately the listener’s decision to choose what’s best. The deciding factor is your playback system’s capabilities combined with the listening environment and your ears. It is our experience that listening to an album from NativeDSD at the highest DSD bit rate that your DAC supports is the best sounding. When you buy high bit rate DSD editions of albums on NativeDSD (DSD 256fs or DSD 128fs), we provide you with the lower bit rate DSD editions at no added cost for your listening convenience (e.g. a portable/other DAC) and comparisons.

We invite you to experiment with the different versions of music (DSD 64fs, DSD 128fs, DSD 256fs, DXD) to understand why one may sound better on your audio system than the other. To facilitate this process, you can visit the Members Section at NativeDSD Music (available to all by signing up for a Free NativeDSD account) on this page: http://members.NativeDSD.com for Free DSD and DXD music downloads to start your experimentation and listening process.

 

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http://blog.nativedsd.com/sell-albums-multiple-dsd-bit-rates-dxd/

 

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NativeDSD also has Free Test Tracks from various albums in Stereo and Surround DSD (up to DSD 256) and DXD in their "Members Only" section.  Available to download at no charge to compare formats and bit rates. 

 

You need to create an account with your email address to access them. 

 

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13 DSD Test Tracks

(DSD 64, DSD 128, DSD 256 & DXD Stereo & Surround Sound)

https://members.nativedsd.com/albums/just-listen-1-compilation

 

Mendelssohn Session

(DSD 64 & DSD 128 Stereo)

https://members.nativedsd.com/albums/mendelssohn-session

 

Mahler Symphony No. 3 Outtake

(DSD 64, DSD 128, DSD 256 & DXD Stereo & Surround Sound)

https://justlisten.nativedsd.com/albums/JLBFOMahler3-mahler-symphony-no-3-in-d-minor

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7 minutes ago, oso said:

That's  a good combo those 2 free test files from Sound Liaison and Native; intimate vocal Jazz/Blues and Symphonic orchestral.

 

 

Lots of choices - and listening.  Between the Sound Liaison test files and the 15 test files from NativeDSD. :)

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Here's another one to compare in DSD vs. DXD:

 

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Boyd Meets Girl on Sono Luminus

http://sonoluminus.nativedsd.com/albums/DSL92217-boyd-meets-girl 

 

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Early Release & DSD Exclusive! Boyd Meets Girl is the new album from Rupert Boyd - classical guitarist and Laura Metcalf - cellist on the Sono Luminus label. It features the duo's arrangements of a wide range of music including compositions by Jaime Zenamon, Gabriel Fauré, Johann Sebastian Bach, Ross Edwards, Radamés Gnattali, Astor Piazzolla, Manuel de Falla and Arvo Part. The album also features the duo's arrangement of Human Nature, a song made famous by Michael Jackson and written by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis.

 

Due out on Stereo CD disc at the end of month on July 28, 2017. We have it for you today at the Native DSD Music store in your choice of Stereo DSD 128, DSD 64 or DXD. As always, a purchase of the DSD 128 Stereo version of the album entitles you to download the DSD 64 Stereo edition of the album at no added cost.

 

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24 minutes ago, elcorso said:

 

Then I'll buy only the 1% pure DSD ones, or converted from analogue (where editing is posible). Or... I'll buy the PCM versions.

 

And yes, there are ways to edit in DSD, but rather you Google this.  I don't have the time now to give you some links.

 

If you think DXD is the best is OK for me.  Wellcome to CA where all the tastes are allowed !

 

Roch

 

Or the ones mixed in Analog, or recorded with a Sonoma DSD Workstation which doesn't have DXD processing as an option. etc... :)

 

Speaking of which, check out the new Stereo & Multichannel DSD Download "Telemann: 12 Fantasies for Solo Flute" from Channel Classics.  They note: 

 

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"This is a Native DSD256 project with no post-production mixing. All mixing happened in the analog stage. This music is not available on SACD, but is available for download in its original quality only at NativeDSD.com." 

 

https://channelclassics.nativedsd.com/albums/40617-telemann-twelve-fantasia-for-solo-flute 

 

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On 12/12/2017 at 12:37 PM, oso said:

Yes comparing the two albums shows what a marvelous job Carmen Gomes Inc. has done making that remake.

A number of songs are remarkably better in the new version;

 

 

There's more on the recording of Carmen Gomes Sings The Blues under the Producer's Notes section of the NativeDSD Blog 

http://blog.nativedsd.com/carmen-gomes-sings-the-blues-producers-note/

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Some progressive art rock in your choice of Stereo DSD or DXD

 

Colour Thinking by Human 2.0

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2 Years In The Making!

 

We’re excited to announce the release of Colour Thinking by progressive art rock group Human 2.0. Colour Thinking has been 2 years in the making and is the second DSD rock album release from TRPTK – following their earlier release of Paper Motion.

 

Colour Thinking (and Paper Motion) are both available today at the Native DSD Music store. They are DSD Exclusive, Not on SACD releases. Available in Stereo DSD 256, DSD 128, DSD 64 and DXD.

 

The band has also released a YouTube video of the song "Progress" from the new Colour Thinking album. Check it out with the link below.

 

Producer Luuk Meijssen tells us "Keeping the signal path extremely clean by not using any analog outboard equipment, but still retaining the thick rock sound everyone enjoys, proved to be a daunting task. Each and every step in the recording, mixing, and mastering process needs to be thought about at least twice, which is why it isn’t too crazy that this project has taken almost 2 years to finish.

 

By working solely with microphones by Sonodore and cabling by Furutech, we were able to make sure that the signal path from the microphone membrane all the way to the loudspeakers was entirely clean, leaving nothing but the natural sound of Human 2.0. This resulted in our second progressive rock album recorded in DXD. We hope you’ll enjoy this musical trip!"

 
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https://trptk.nativedsd.com/albums/TTK0012-colour-thinking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jiY_zxV4U
https://trptk.nativedsd.com/albums/TTK0006-paper-motion

https://www.facebook.com/NativeDsdMusic/posts/1786565254735208

 

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4 minutes ago, elcorso said:

It means that the source recording is very good, even if you got the 16/44 CD,  like most of the FIM reissues (remasters).

 

 

So it's a 16/44 CD. 

 

To hear an album in DXD, you will still need to download it and play it back through a DXD-capable DAC or digital player. 

 

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1 hour ago, al210 said:

I was going to buy the Carmen Gomes DXD but have a question.  I use a Mac Mini running the latest version of Audrivana feeding my Chord 2Qute DAC.

 

I can't find anywhere where Audrivana can play DXD files. Would I be better off downloading the 352kHz flac version?

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DXD files are 24 bit, 352.8 kHz files.  So the two versions (DXD and 352 kHz FLAC) are the same files. 

 

I'm pretty sure that Audirvana plays DXD files.  if the 2Qute DAC does not support DXD, you can still download the album in DSD 64 or DSD 128 and it will work with the 2Qute and Audirvana. 

 

Also, Carmen Gomes Sings The Blues is on sale through Friday at 20% Off with the code AOTW at the NativeDSD Music Store.

 

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https://www.nativedsd.com/albums/SL1023A-carmen-gomes-sings-the-blues

 

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