sphinxsix Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: we were focused mostly on new recordings, isn't it? Not necessarily! As I said earlier - music and performance are always more important to me than SQ. BTW - a good documentary, IMO worth checking out if you don't know it : Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: Not necessarily! As I said earlier - music and performance are always more important to me than SQ. BTW - a good documentary, IMO worth checking out if you don't know it : Oh, well. I just love archival modest quality recordings, some of them have warmth and heart which modern recordings totally missed...) If we speak about solo piano, I am not going to miss Rosalyn Tureck and Edwin Fischer (first recorded WTK ever) for Bach, Schnabel and Kempff for Beethoven, Lili Krauss for Mozart..) Did you see documentaries about Glenn Gould from Bruno Monsaingeon? sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: Did you see documentaries about Glenn Gould from Bruno Monsaingeon? No. I will check them out! Thx ! Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: No. I will check them out! Thx ! Monsaingeon is making a lot of very valuable image movies about classical music. His pays great attention to Soviet musicians as well, and he loves some of them (Richter, for example) much more than me...) sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Musicophile Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 5 hours ago, sphinxsix said: A question about one of the most inventive, according to many, piano players ever - your favorite Glenn Gould performances, guys.? (except from Bach as I have quite lots of Gould's Bach). BTW I was quite suprised noone listed GG recordings among his favorite piano albums. A coincidence? Is he passé.? Or maybe it's just that noone here likes Gould.? At the risk of getting some haters here, I haven't heard any Gould beyond Bach I'd still find relevant today. sphinxsix 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Popular Post jhwalker Posted May 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2017 27 minutes ago, Musicophile said: At the risk of getting some haters here, I haven't heard any Gould beyond Bach I'd still find relevant today. Agreed. At the time, his Bach was pretty revolutionary, but there are many modern recordings that are as good (or, heresy, *better*) than Gould's interpretation, and he was no great shakes with any other composer. I have a pretty extensive Glenn Gould collection (the Complete Columbia Recordings, 78 discs + the Goldberg Variations in several releases), and most of it is just "meh". Musicophile and sphinxsix 2 John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted May 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Musicophile said: At the risk of getting some haters here, I haven't heard any Gould beyond Bach I'd still find relevant today. No hate...) I can imagine why people would believe Gould is not relevant anymore, and, of course, anybody would and should have its own opinion about anything he or she likes. Also, our preferences may ground on very different criteria. One of the reasons I like Gould is his "otherness", his intention and ability to see and play everything in his very own way. And he was very organic within realms of his unique world. And, I would never doze while listening his recordings))) sphinxsix and Musicophile 2 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Musicophile said: At the risk of getting some haters here I appreciate you taking a risk I don't expect haters to appear here but maybe some more Gould's fans fond of not only his Bach will.. Link to comment
rando Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: No hate...) I can imagine why people would believe Gould is not relevant anymore, and, of course, anybody would and should have its own opinion about anything he or she likes. Also, our preferences may ground on very different criteria. One of the reasons I like Gould is his "otherness", his intention and ability to see and play everything in his very own way. And he was very organic within realms of his unique world. And, I would never doze while listening his recordings))) You wouldn't be the first to get lost in the goings on and start humming along with the barefooted genius. Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 hour ago, rando said: You wouldn't be the first to get lost in the goings on and start humming along with the barefooted genius. I bought my first Gould LP more than 40 years ago....) It was his first Goldbergs published by Melodiya in USSR – I think it was not licensed. Well, until now I didn't start humming) Link to comment
rando Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Your русский pique, Meloydiya discs, etc are wearying Hum along, or don't, as you wish. The mannerism is well documented as having limited interest in professionally recording him. Which has a very direct bearing on his legacy being directly associated to a single work. Link to comment
cpvniii Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 There are many great recordings. For some of the younger fellows this 30 year old recording deserves a listen. One of the greatest piano performance of my life time. semente 1 MacPro 24 GB/8TB / A+ and Pure Music / LAMPIZATOR B7 as Dac and Pre w/volume control / Regen /Intona USB Iso/curious USB / Emotive Audio Sira / PASS Aleph P / D-Sonic M3 600 mono's / MIT / Shunyata Alpha HC, Alpha Digital, Alpha Analogue, Weizhi PR-6 / Exact Power XP15a-4 balanced power distributor / FOCAL Maestro UTOPIA III's in red/black "In life's final analysis, one's relationship with his Maker is all that really matters." Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 8 hours ago, rando said: Your русский pique, Meloydiya discs, etc are wearying Hum along, or don't, as you wish. The mannerism is well documented as having limited interest in professionally recording him. Which has a very direct bearing on his legacy being directly associated to a single work. You have problems? Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 20 hours ago, rando said: Your русский pique, Meloydiya discs, etc are wearying.... I'm not sure I understand your point. But nevermind.. 19 hours ago, cpvniii said: There are many great recordings. For some of the younger fellows this 30 year old recording deserves a listen. One of the greatest piano performance of my life time. I have ABM Rach 4 PC recording from 1957 but I don't know this one. As for Gould playing Beethoven's sonatas one thing is certain - he does it in a very different way from everybody else (he probably wouldn't be himself if he didn't) and for me it's quite intriguing in some instances (eg fast tempos of 'Moonlight'). Probably won't become my reference recordings of these compositions but it's definitely a different point of view. BTW - your favorite Beethoven's sonatas (especially late ones) recordings, guys.? Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 59 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: BTW - your favorite Beethoven's sonatas (especially late ones) recordings, guys.? I do not have one favorite set of Beethoven sonatas. I like various by various reasons. From new sets I would recommend to hear Korstick's. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Musicophile Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 hours ago, sphinxsix said: I'm not sure I understand your point. But nevermind.. I have ABM Rach 4 PC recording from 1957 but I don't know this one. As for Gould playing Beethoven's sonatas one thing is certain - he does it in a very different way from everybody else (he probably wouldn't be himself if he didn't) and for me it's quite intriguing in some instances (eg fast tempos of 'Moonlight'). Probably won't become my reference recordings of these compositions but it's definitely a different point of view. BTW - your favorite Beethoven's sonatas (especially late ones) recordings, guys.? Brautigam. sphinxsix 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Also if we speak about one-album sets of Beethoven sonatas the one from Boris Giltburg impressed lately. Igor Levit's late sonatas received quite favorable responses, this recording was mentioned here already, I guess. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
cpvniii Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 There have been a few new issues of the Saint Saens 3rd Violin concerto over the last few yearsbut this one still stands out to me. sphinxsix 1 MacPro 24 GB/8TB / A+ and Pure Music / LAMPIZATOR B7 as Dac and Pre w/volume control / Regen /Intona USB Iso/curious USB / Emotive Audio Sira / PASS Aleph P / D-Sonic M3 600 mono's / MIT / Shunyata Alpha HC, Alpha Digital, Alpha Analogue, Weizhi PR-6 / Exact Power XP15a-4 balanced power distributor / FOCAL Maestro UTOPIA III's in red/black "In life's final analysis, one's relationship with his Maker is all that really matters." Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 21 hours ago, Musicophile said: Brautigam. Seems I didn't commit a sin when I bought his complete Beethoven sonatas. What would be your second (or maybe even third) choice? I think about getting some more B. sonatas as I love them. 14 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Igor Levit Got this set too. On 23.05.2017 at 10:25 PM, AnotherSpin said: Korstick 14 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Giltburg I'll check out their sonatas recordings. Thx! Musicophile 1 Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: Seems I didn't commit a sin when I bought his complete Beethoven sonatas. What would be your second (or maybe even third) choice? I think about getting some more B. sonatas as I love them. Brautigam set is very good - I agree with Musicophile completely. It is in my current toplist, along with sets from Korstick, Gulda, Brendel (first Philips set), Buchbinder. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 As for Ronald Brautigam - is his Mozart (both - solo piano works and concertos) that good too? Link to comment
Musicophile Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, sphinxsix said: As for Ronald Brautigam - is his Mozart (both - solo piano works and concertos) that good too? He's very good as well but I'd prefer Bezuidenhout for both solo and concerto when talking fortepiano. https://musicophilesblog.com/2015/10/27/my-must-have-mozart-albums/ And for modern piano, I already mentioned above Fazio Say's recent complete set. Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Popular Post tdimler Posted May 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2017 Regarding desert island solo piano...the first thing that came to mind: then maybe For the Beethoven sonata, this is my standard. Many other good options though. I'm pretty heavily skewed towards piano in my classical collection so here are a few more that I consider essential: This one is a true MUST HAVE Your Argerich Rach 3 is on my list, but I'd have to add her Schumann... While we're on piano concertos, when surveying Beethoven, my new favorite is the rock solid Leif Ove Back to Brahms.... the Requiem could be my single desert island piece. I've tried other acclaimed versions but always come back to this as my favorite. If you're about solo Bach, I think this newish recording from Rachel Barton Pine is just stunning in every way. Last for now....the Mozart piano concertos played by Uchida are splendid.....she has a special way with Mozart. There are also some newer Decca live recordings that are pretty goo too. sphinxsix, semente and Musicophile 3 Link to comment
Musicophile Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, sphinxsix said: Seems I didn't commit a sin when I bought his complete Beethoven sonatas. What would be your second (or maybe even third) choice? I think about getting some more B. sonatas as I love them. One can't have enough Beethoven, vey much like the other two Bs, Bach and Brahms. Levit has already been mentioned. Among the classics, Schnabel (VERY Lo-fi) Kempff, Brendel, and Pollini (his old set, not the so-so recent re-recording) stand out. For the more recent cycles I often go to Andras Schiff on ECM or Paul Lewis, both are relatively straight, no-nonsense interpretations. I was also positively surprised by Richard Goode. sphinxsix 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Musicophile Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, tdimler said: Regarding desert island solo piano...the first thing that came to mind: then maybe For the Beethoven sonata, this is my standard. Many other good options though. I'm pretty heavily skewed towards piano in my classical collection so here are a few more that I consider essential: This one is a true MUST HAVE Your Argerich Rach 3 is on my list, but I'd have to add her Schumann... While we're on piano concertos, when surveying Beethoven, my new favorite is the rock solid Leif Ove Back to Brahms.... the Requiem could be my single desert island piece. I've tried other acclaimed versions but always come back to this as my favorite. If you're about solo Bach, I think this newish recording from Rachel Barton Pine is just stunning in every way. Last for now....the Mozart piano concertos played by Uchida are splendid.....she has a special way with Mozart. There are also some newer Decca live recordings that are pretty goo too. Very nice selection. Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
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