AnotherSpin Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Musicophile said: Back to the topic of 20th century music: does anybody have a recommendation for Prokofiev's Symphonie classique? Levine, Karajan, Kuchar. Karabits or Sokhiev for example of newest recordings. Musicophile 1 Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Dvorak is among great composers who didn't receive due attention in this tread yet (imho). Many know his New World symphony and Cello concerto, however he created a massive output of excellent music. Some additional recommendations may include all symphonies (box with Kertesz or more recent with Belohlavek, both are great), Piano and Violin concertos, string quartets (including famous American), Dumky trio, etc. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
rando Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I haven't seen Tavener's "The Protecting Veil" mentioned as a standout 20th Century effort yet. Remember my first encounter with it was quite positive. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, rando said: Tavener's "The Protecting Veil" I actually have it. I can also recommend his 'The Veil of the Temple'. Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 16 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Dvorak is among great composers who didn't receive due attention in this tread yet (imho). Many know his New World symphony and Cello concerto, however he created a massive output of excellent music. Some additional recommendations may include all symphonies (box with Kertesz or more recent with Belohlavek, both are great), Piano and Violin concertos, string quartets (including famous American), Dumky trio, etc. +1. Isabelle Faust, whom I normally don’t like, has a wonderful recent recording of the "Dumky" Piano Trio with Queyras & Melnikov on Harmonia Mundi. The Guarneri's performance of the "American" String Quartet is exceptionally nuanced. I love the 8th Symphony by Szell/Cleveland. It was his last recording (1970), and it is surprisingly relaxed and subtle, not like Szell's usual brisk style. 24/96 remaster. To the neophyte, I'd caution that symphonies 1-6 and the piano and violin concertos are considered a step down from the other works recommended by AnotherSpin. Unlike many composers, Dvorak got consistently better with age. I like the late chamber music more than the mid-period symphonies, such as the last two string quartets op 105, 106, the 2nd piano quintet op 81, the 2nd piano trio op 87. The Requiem is excellent for those who like choral music. sphinxsix 1 HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted August 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Bob Stern said: [...] To the neophyte, I'd caution that symphonies 1-6 and the piano and violin concertos are considered a step down from the other works recommended by AnotherSpin. Unlike many composers, Dvorak got consistently better with age. I like the late chamber music more than the mid-period symphonies, such as the last two string quartets op 105, 106, the 2nd piano quintet op 81, the 2nd piano trio op 87. [...] This opinion is clearly founded. Still, there are very special qualities within Dvorak's early symphonies. Certain inimitable dreamy beauty, heartiness and sweetness of tone inherent to Czech music. sphinxsix and Musicophile 1 1 Link to comment
Hauser Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I recently borrowed Dvorak's Stabat Mater from the library. Found this very enjoyable even on first listen, which is rare for me and choral works. Martin. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 On 31.07.2017 at 6:53 PM, rando said: Which is why it bothers me a little how much I've liked the two albums of transcriptions for harp Lavinia Meijer has made of various works by Philip Glass. Got them too and I agree - they're very good. There seems to be some nice compatibilty between minimalist music and harp - Simeon ten Holt's Canto Ostinato played on this instrument by Assia Cunega (one of two versions I've bought) is awesome too. How about 'spiritual' music of 20th century, guys -- are there some other names worth checking out beside Pärt , Tavener and Gorecki.? BTW did you know that Pärt has been the most performed living composer in the world for five consecutive years.? https://www.calvertjournal.com/news/show/5271/estonian-arvo-paert-listed-as-most-performed-living-composer Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted August 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, sphinxsix said: How about 'spiritual' music of 20th century, guys -- are there some other names worth checking out beside Pärt , Tavener and Gorecki.? BTW did you know that Pärt has been the most performed living composer in the world for five consecutive years.? https://www.calvertjournal.com/news/show/5271/estonian-arvo-paert-listed-as-most-performed-living-composer Messiaen, Stockhausen, Rautavaara christopher3393 and sphinxsix 1 1 Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Stockhausen? Didn't know that. I'll add Peteris Vasks, for example: Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Erics Esenvalds, for example: Ola Gjeilo: James MacMillan; Eric Whitacre sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 5 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Messiaen, Stockhausen, Rautavaara I'm familiar with the first two names, could you recommend some compositions or performances of Rautavaara's music? @christopher3393Thanks, I know none of these names and albums, will check them out. Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted August 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: I'm familiar with the first two names, could you recommend some compositions or performances of Rautavaara's music? You may try Angel of Light or Cantus Arcticus. There is a recording of both conducted by Vänskä on BIS. christopher3393 and sphinxsix 1 1 Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 14 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: You may try Angel of Light or Cantus Arcticus. There is a recording of both conducted by Vänskä on BIS. Fine suggestion. I'm fond of his work generally. Another recommendation: sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, christopher3393 said: Fine suggestion. And thanks for yours. Listening to Rautavaara's 7th symphony at this very moment Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 14 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: You may try Angel of Light or Cantus Arcticus. There is a recording of both conducted by Vänskä on BIS. For me it's genuinly heartfelt music that is deeply rooted in romanticism. I like it a lot! Will get the BIS recording you recommended. Thanks! Continuing the Finnish thread - some more recommendations as for Sibelius music, guys.? Link to comment
rando Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 RE Arvo Pärt: Dignified distress has been popular lately. As for spirituals I think you should look at, if you don't already a copy in some form, "Cantique de Noel (O Holy Night)" This recording of it has long been recognized as an audiophile favorite. DSD version pictured. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Ps. I'm in particular interested in Sibelius symphonies. What are your favorite performances, guys? Link to comment
Apesbrain Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: Ps. I'm in particular interested in Sibelius symphonies. What are your favorite performances, guys? My favorite Sibelius cycle is by Sixten Ehrling and the Stockholm Radio Symphony on Mercury. It dates from the early '50s and is available on CD. rando 1 Link to comment
rando Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 WOW, talk about hitting my nail with your hammer. I was just typing up list of recordings available today that started with the Camilla Wicks (Violin) Sixten Erhling (Conducting) recording of Sibelius Violin Concerto from 1952. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Seems that I have no choice - you guys just made interested in his violin concerto too rando 1 Link to comment
Musicophile Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, sphinxsix said: Seems that I have no choice - you guys just made interested in his violin concerto too My personal favorite remains Vilde Frang: https://musicophilesblog.com/2015/06/24/vilde-frangs-amazing-version-of-sibelius-violin-concerto/ sphinxsix 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
austinpop Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, sphinxsix said: Ps. I'm in particular interested in Sibelius symphonies. What are your favorite performances, guys? I myself love the recent Vänskä/Minnesota cycle, both for performance and sonics. But I will be the first to admit I am not expert on Sibelius performances. sphinxsix 1 My Audio Setup Link to comment
rando Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, sphinxsix said: Seems that I have no choice - you guys just made interested in his violin concerto too It holds place of honor as the most recorded concerto of the 20th century. Hard to beat the performance I mentioned above but the AP reissue of Heifetz/Hendel has better SQ After listening to more than a few cycles of Sibelius' symphonies I'd have to say few recorded all very well. Karajan and Maazel are the easy answers a la carte for mature well tempered interpretations. I think you might like the Kamu and possibly the Segerstram full cycles which lean more towards reflection on the body of work than thrills at every opportunity. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted August 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2017 Sibelius symphonies: Karajan on EMI. From comparatively new cycles – Vänskä, Segerstam. Violin concerto - Kavakos. Also, Tetzlaff, Zimmermann, Frang sphinxsix and Musicophile 1 1 Link to comment
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