DIY DC power cables

[elan120]

56 minutes ago, Nenon said:

Better then the Neotech 7N

Have you tried Neotech 16AWG solid core silver in twisted pair with JSSG360 configuration?  Wonder if Mundorf is better still?

[Nenon]

6 minutes ago, elan120 said:

Have you tried Neotech 16AWG solid core silver in twisted pair with JSSG360 configuration?  Wonder if Mundorf is better still?

 

I compared with the 16 AWG solid core copper Neotech. Haven’t been able to find 16 AWG solid core silver. Where can you buy that wire from?

[elan120]

5 minutes ago, Nenon said:

 

That’s exactly what I compared with. I prefer the thick Mundorf.

YMMV

Thank you for the input.  That is interesting to know 0.5AWG in thickness difference can make a difference.

[Nenon]

@elan120 - sorry I corrected my message shortly after posting. Please take a look. It was the Neotech 7N copper I compared with. I haven't ran across Neotech 16AWG silver wire.

[elan120]

35 minutes ago, Nenon said:

 

I compared with the 16 AWG solid core copper Neotech. Haven’t been able to find 16 AWG solid core silver. Where can you buy that wire from?

I am checking with a supplier on this as we speak and I will let you know once I have it solidified.  It is a Neotech 16AWG solid core silver dual core cable in JSSG360 treatment.  I get to try one over the weekend and liked it very much.

[seeteeyou]

On 7/24/2019 at 2:11 AM, Nenon said:

I haven't ran across Neotech 16AWG silver wire.

 

I could only find a few sellers here in Asia, they're asking for approximately $145 per meter and no wonder most online stores aren't willing to sell a relatively expensive 16AWG silver wire

 

https://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21821076194416

https://labkable.com/products/NEOTECH-UPOCC-Silver-Hook-up-Wire-%28單晶銀機內接線%29.html

 

Then I read something below and 5N silver should be as good as it gets

 

https://doublehelixcables.com/faq/

Actually Oyaide made their own 5N silver FTVS-910 for AES cables but that looked like a potential candidate for DC cables to me

 

https://oyaide.com/catalog/products/p-3628.html

https://product.rakuten.co.jp/product/-/c4aa9cba0aa7debe6454354272d7401e/

http://www.oyaide.com/ENGLISH/AUDIO/products_category/interconnects_cable/pg758.html

 

 

 

 

 

Diameter of each silver wire is 1.05mm so that's roughly 18AWG

 

https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/awg-to-mm.html

 

Outer diameter is 8.5mm and this particular DC plug is good for anywhere between 6.3 and 8.3mm

 

https://www.atl-newcablestudio.com/DCHead.html

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=556314328789

[austinpop]

21 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

 

I could only find a few sellers here in Asia, they're asking for approximately $145 per meter and no wonder most online stores aren't willing to sell a relatively expensive 16AWG silver wire

 

https://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21821076194416

https://labkable.com/products/NEOTECH-UPOCC-Silver-Hook-up-Wire-%28單晶銀機內接線%29.html

 

Then I read something below and 5N silver should be as good as it gets

 

https://doublehelixcables.com/faq/

Actually Oyaide made their own 5N silver FTVS-910 for AES cables but that looked like a potential candidate for DC cables to me

 

https://oyaide.com/catalog/products/p-3628.html

https://product.rakuten.co.jp/product/-/c4aa9cba0aa7debe6454354272d7401e/

http://www.oyaide.com/ENGLISH/AUDIO/products_category/interconnects_cable/pg758.html

 

 

 

 

 

Diameter of each silver wire is 1.05mm so that's roughly 18AWG

 

https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/awg-to-mm.html

 

Outer diameter is 8.5mm and this particular DC plug is good for anywhere between 6.3 and 8.3mm

 

https://www.atl-newcablestudio.com/DCHead.html

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=556314328789

 

Indeed, the Oyaide FTVS-910 behaves as a very fine DC cable.

[HumanMedia]

Anyone know what cable the “Teflon Silver plated star quad” that Ghent uses in  one his new offerings? Here is an image.

Image of the cable at Ghent

 

It says it is silver plated, and the shield does look silver plated, but the image makes it appear as though the actual cable might be a solid stranded silver?

 

Anyone know what cable this actually is? And anyone actually using it? Any good? Any notable characteristics?

[R1200CL]

Email him 😀

[HumanMedia]

On 8/10/2019 at 8:52 AM, R1200CL said:

Email him 😀

He doesn’t know. It’s an unknown OEM run of unknown origins. Would love to know if anyone has tried/heard it?

[Ricardo007]

A new product from Nordost waiting to challenge DIY DC cables (source AudioBacon fried) at a price 260usd ; no details though:

Nordost’s new QSOURCE is the first Linear Power Supply designed specifically for hi-fi audio applications. The QSOURCE provides a stable, clean output of DC power at select voltages, while maintaining extremely low noise levels. The QSOURCE uses a top-of-the-line transformer with a unique circuit design to convert AC to DC power, while an internal QRT module smooths out DC output and removes electrical anomalies and noise artifacts from the line. To complete the transmission chain, Nordost has designed the purpose-built QSOURCE DC Cable, so that the new QPOINT, as well as any other DC-run components in your system, can be run by your QSOURCE unit. Whether used in conjunction with Nordost’s QPOINT Resonance Synchronizer, or as a standalone power supply for DC-dependent audio components, Nordost’s QSOURCE Linear Power Supply will bring new dimension to your sound system, allowing you to enjoy richer and more nuanced musical performances.

The QSOURCE will be available at select Nordost dealers, worldwide, late this summer. The suggested retail price is $2,499.99 USD. The accompanying QSOURCE DC Cable will have a suggested retail price of $259.99 USD for a 1 meter length. Additional half meter increments are $50.00 USD.

[HumanMedia]

Received a DC cable made by Ghent using the Canare 4S8. It’s a much higher gauge version of the 4S6. It’s still Star Quad unlike the Neotech from Ghent. The 4S8 is too high a gauge to JSSG and still fit the plug outer shells on, so went without JSSG.

 

End result is that the 4S8 is tonally similar to the Gotham with JSSG and is a much fuller sounding cable to the 4S6. However the 4S8 has none of the crunchy highs and murky bass that I experience with the Gotham. In short I love the 4S8. Thought I should share my experience.

[zacho]

Am looking to build a DIY DC cable for my Allo Digione Signature and was wondering what the maximum AWG the 2.5mm connector, and the USB C connector can take. I wanna know what my options are.

[charlesphoto]

1 hour ago, zacho said:

Am looking to build a DIY DC cable for my Allo Digione Signature and was wondering what the maximum AWG the 2.5mm connector, and the USB C connector can take. I wanna know what my options are.

 

You might want to look here. May be difficult to equal their fine work though, so 20ga stranded Neotech might be a safer bet. 

 

http://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-7n18c.html

[Ossanboy]

Halo,

 

Can anyone recommend me a 2.1mm gold plated DC plug that can fit 1.05cm cable?

 

Thanks

[zacho]

8 minutes ago, charlesphoto said:

 

You might want to look here. May be difficult to equal their fine work though, so 20ga stranded Neotech might be a safer bet. 

 

http://www.ghentaudio.com/part/dc-7n18c.html

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm currently using the Gotham GAC-4/1 built by ghent so am familiar with his cables. But I was wondering if something like the Cu21 from VH Audio would fit a USB-C connector.

[charlesphoto]

Wasn't implying you should buy one - just thinking his specs might be of help as I haven't seen many members on here using usb-c much. How did you find the Gotham cable to sound? 

[zacho]

2 hours ago, charlesphoto said:

Wasn't implying you should buy one - just thinking his specs might be of help as I haven't seen many members on here using usb-c much. How did you find the Gotham cable to sound? 

In my setup where a John Kenny Super capacitor ISOPS feeds the Allo Digione Signature via 2 x GAC 4, the GAC 4 has more bass presence, more liquid mid range and a serious uptick in palpability. I've only compared it to the stock DC umbilical that came with the isops

[Chopin75]

Just found this post. I am planning to do a DIY silver DC cable too. So in general is it best to use a solid large gauge wire in twisted or star quad config ?  And I suppose some JSSG360 shielding for best result ?

 

[Ossanboy]

Hi,

 

I just got my MPaudio power supply a few days ago.

 

I have made Canare 46S and Mogami W2921 Quad cable ( mogami has 3 different gauge size, this is the middle one).

 

The mogami kills canare, there is no competition, much fuller dynamic, better details and high. The 46S sounds very sterile and dull!

 

I cant believe 48 pages and no one mention the mogami. It is only $10/M and completely wreck the 46S.

 

I want to try the V-Quad Cu21, have anyone tested this DC cable?

Thanks

 

 

[LewinskiH01]

Hello.

 

Need help understanding JSSG. I started reading the thread but it turned too long and apologize in advance because the answer is likely buried somewhere in the previous posts.

 

John initially noted wire geometry was important, preferably star-quad, and material and crystallography was much less important. 

 

If I take 4 regular copper cables, arrange in star-quad, how should I apply JSSG? I see a braided mesh used over the star-quad with a cable connecting both ends of the mesh tube, to prevent emi from getting out. Metal mesh shouldn't touch connectors. Then a plastic mesh over it for aesthetics. Anything else to complete JSSG configuration?

 

Thank you!

Horacio

[zacho]

On 10/12/2019 at 3:30 AM, Ossanboy said:

Hi,

 

I just got my MPaudio power supply a few days ago.

 

I have made Canare 46S and Mogami W2921 Quad cable ( mogami has 3 different gauge size, this is the middle one).

 

The mogami kills canare, there is no competition, much fuller dynamic, better details and high. The 46S sounds very sterile and dull!

 

I cant believe 48 pages and no one mention the mogami. It is only $10/M and completely wreck the 46S.

 

I want to try the V-Quad Cu21, have anyone tested this DC cable?

Thanks

 

 

I just terminated a pair of VH audio Cu21. Using it from a Ciunas supercapacitor iso-ps to feed an Allo Digione Signature so it's terminated with 2.5 -> USB-C. It's replacing a Ghent GAC-4 jssg360. 

When I replaced the stock cable with the GAC-4, what immediately stood out was the more solid bass lines. I felt that there was a mid bass emphasis. Everything became more palpable with a somewhat smooth and liquid mid-range. This was after the long burn-in I experienced.

Replacing the GAC-4 with the Cu21, immediate impressions were that of a more holographic and 3d presentation with a slightly more energetic sound. Low end went much deeper and hit even harder.

These are my initial impressions of the Cu21 vs the GAC-4 but i'm gonna burn in the cable for another 2 weeks before revisiting this comparison.

Hope this helps!

[charlesphoto]

@zacho Did you JSSG the VH Cu21 cable? Been curious about trying that wire myself. 

[zacho]

Just now, charlesphoto said:

@zacho Did you JSSG the VH Cu21 cable? Been curious about trying that wire myself. 

nope I didn't

[Chopin75]

53 minutes ago, zacho said:

I just terminated a pair of VH audio Cu21. Using it from a Ciunas supercapacitor iso-ps to feed an Allo Digione Signature so it's terminated with 2.5 -> USB-C. It's replacing a Ghent GAC-4 jssg360. 

When I replaced the stock cable with the GAC-4, what immediately stood out was the more solid bass lines. I felt that there was a mid bass emphasis. Everything became more palpable with a somewhat smooth and liquid mid-range. This was after the long burn-in I experienced.

Replacing the GAC-4 with the Cu21, immediate impressions were that of a more holographic and 3d presentation with a slightly more energetic sound. Low end went much deeper and hit even harder.

These are my initial impressions of the Cu21 vs the GAC-4 but i'm gonna burn in the cable for another 2 weeks before revisiting this comparison.

Hope this helps!

Just to confirm, is this the one you use ? :