MikeyFresh Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, tboooe said: I assume those are the original, larger Oyaide 2.1mm plugs? That is correct, those are the original version of the DC-2.1 plugs Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Daudio Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 51 minutes ago, tboooe said: My deepest apologies. Sorry to ruin your weekend. I posted that from my phone so was not paying attention. Offending post edited. Oh, please... it was just a word-to-the-wise, not a diss ! Save your indignation for when you really need it, and that is not now. Besides you were only a convenient example, as so many are "guilty" Chill out, and thanks for fixing the post. Surprised you could still edit it. Link to comment
Popular Post Middy Posted May 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2017 Arrgh God that wasn't nice especially with connectors that don't fit 6mm cable.. My soldering skills have gone down the pan and I need a better iron for home. Bad workman and tools ? You can't do a nice job but an lesson in thinking it wouldn't be that hard. Oyaide all the way.... I managed to get the wires in the hot pin by squashing the hot pin into an oval tinning the 2 wires together and filing....yes filing off the edges and jam then in.. Hats off too Michael and super dad /John...... The shrouds are plastic but still to small for 6mm after drilling them out.... No more well meaning advice from me..I need it myself... ? I'll try the Screw ones next.. ElviaCaprice and Cornan 2 Link to comment
Cornan Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Middy said: Arrgh God that wasn't nice especially with connectors that don't fit 6mm cable.. My soldering skills have gone down the pan and I need a better iron for home. Bad workman and tools ? You can't do a nice job but an lesson in thinking it wouldn't be that hard. Oyaide all the way.... I managed to get the wires in the hot pin by squashing the hot pin into an oval tinning the 2 wires together and filing....yes filing off the edges and jam then in.. Hats off too Michael and super dad /John...... The shrouds are plastic but still to small for 6mm after drilling them out.... No more well meaning advice from me..I need it myself... ? I'll try the Screw ones next.. Been there...done that. Trust me. You will from now on love the screw terminal DC plugs! ? Middy 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted May 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Middy said: Arrgh God that wasn't nice especially with connectors that don't fit 6mm cable.. My soldering skills have gone down the pan and I need a better iron for home. Bad workman and tools ? You can't do a nice job but an lesson in thinking it wouldn't be that hard. Oyaide all the way.... I managed to get the wires in the hot pin by squashing the hot pin into an oval tinning the 2 wires together and filing....yes filing off the edges and jam then in.. Hats off too Michael and super dad /John...... The shrouds are plastic but still to small for 6mm after drilling them out.... No more well meaning advice from me..I need it myself... ? I'll try the Screw ones next.. Apologies in advance - You know what they say: when all else fails, screw it! Middy and Cornan 2 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
tboooe Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I just got the new Oyaide DC connectors and yes it's tight! I am going to see if I have any more luck than others. The barrel fits really snugly around the Canare cable so that's a good thing I suppose. I already have a bunch of the screw connectors as back up. Middy 1 12TB NAS >> i7-6700 Server/Control PC >> i3-5015u NAA >> Singxer SU-1 DDC (modded) >> Holo Spring L3 DAC >> Accustic Arts Power 1 int amp >> Sonus Faber Guaneri Evolution speakers + REL T/5i sub (x2) Other components: UpTone Audio LPS1.2/IsoRegen, Fiber Switch and FMC, Windows Server 2016 OS, Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, Fidelizer Pro 6, HQ Player, Roonserver, PS Audio P3 AC regenerator, HDPlex 400W ATX & 200W Linear PSU, Light Harmonic Lightspeed Split USB cable, Synergistic Research Tungsten AC power cords, Tara Labs The One speaker cables, Tara Labs The Two Extended with HFX Station IC, Oyaide R1 outlets, Stillpoints Ultra Mini footers, Hi-Fi Tuning fuses, Vicoustic/RealTraps/GIK room treatments Link to comment
Popular Post R1200CL Posted May 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2017 Quick update: The Chinese manufacturer has indicated 6 weeks production time withe Oyaide plugs. So this is going to happen. Just hope we are enough buyers. More information soon. jaaptina and pl_svn 2 Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 On 26.4.2017 at 3:02 AM, MikeyFresh said: Indeed they are, just did a Canare 4S6 test fit tonight and it looks like this project is a "go" for this weekend: The 4S6 is very flexible and has a soft supple outer jacket, this will make a nice DC cable that isn't so stiff that it fights how you want to dress it or puts strain on the input jack. Anyone: What is the distance in mm between solder point and cable crimp on Oyaide old version ? The Frensh plugs is 12mm. Cable crimp diameter is natively 7.6mm. Superdads pic old and new Oyaide plugs in below post.. Aand picture with soldering here: Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 The Chinese manufacturer will make a test sample with the new Oyaide plugs with the Canare 4S6 cable, as he think this is doable. I'm not so sure he is right, so this is very nice of him to do. Probably ready during weekend. Will post pictures then. I'm trying to convince him to sell directly to end user. But I think I will have to make a poll or a spreadsheet in order to convince him there is enough buyers. (Of cause he does not like to waste money on the expensive Oyaide plugs). I must say I like these plugs as well. They should even be able to do a shielded cable from Canare. And then the right way is to have open shield in one end. Actually the end where your consumer (Microrendu or ISO regen) sits. I'm thinking about having him making Ethernet cables as well. Possible with the best plugs available and a Belden cable Open shield in one end as well. That's why you put direction on cables. pl_svn 1 Link to comment
Michael-Elijah Audio Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Standard vs. modified Elac plugs - opening now 8.5mm - big enough for almost any cable...:) Cut with hacksaw, then careful filing with flat bastard and finished with wet & dry paper mozes 1 Link to comment
tboooe Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Michael-Elijah Audio said: Standard vs. modified Elac plugs - opening now 8.5mm - big enough for almost any cable...:) Cut with hacksaw, then careful filing with flat bastard and finished with wet & dry paper . Well done! You should sell these! Though I imagine modding them is probably more trouble than its worth 12TB NAS >> i7-6700 Server/Control PC >> i3-5015u NAA >> Singxer SU-1 DDC (modded) >> Holo Spring L3 DAC >> Accustic Arts Power 1 int amp >> Sonus Faber Guaneri Evolution speakers + REL T/5i sub (x2) Other components: UpTone Audio LPS1.2/IsoRegen, Fiber Switch and FMC, Windows Server 2016 OS, Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, Fidelizer Pro 6, HQ Player, Roonserver, PS Audio P3 AC regenerator, HDPlex 400W ATX & 200W Linear PSU, Light Harmonic Lightspeed Split USB cable, Synergistic Research Tungsten AC power cords, Tara Labs The One speaker cables, Tara Labs The Two Extended with HFX Station IC, Oyaide R1 outlets, Stillpoints Ultra Mini footers, Hi-Fi Tuning fuses, Vicoustic/RealTraps/GIK room treatments Link to comment
Middy Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 That's not as easy as it looks. That's a really nice chamfer on there. You do that in a electric drill ? ? Nice work my friend.. Ah it's the old one. Very hard to get it square. Need someone with a lathe... Link to comment
Forehaven Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 But still, this connector's length is still really small...?3/4" long. Very hard to solder still the Canare cable I bet. Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted May 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Michael-Elijah Audio said: Standard vs. modified Elac plugs - opening now 8.5mm - big enough for almost any cable...:) Cut with hacksaw, then careful filing with flat bastard and finished with wet & dry paper Oh, flat bastard. Middy, austinpop and pl_svn 3 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Michael-Elijah Audio Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I found the best way is not to clamp the shell and hold the file - but rather - lay the file on the bench and holding the shell - just rub back and forth without rocking to keep a nice flat face Daudio 1 Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Michael-Elijah Audio said: Elac plugs It's Elec not Elac right ? http://www.elecaudio.com/en/hi-fi-connectors/285-elecaudio-dc-21g-jack-dc-connector-5521mm-gold-plated.html Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, Forehaven said: But still, this connector's length is still really small...?3/4" long. Very hard to solder still the Canare cable I bet. Nope. Don't think so. See my other post, where you see lenght between solderpoint center tip and cable chrimp. Still no one has yet told me distance for old Oyaide.... Link to comment
pl_svn Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 minute ago, R1200CL said: Still no one has yet told me distance for old Oyaide.... ask again: I have one here Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just now, pl_svn said: ask again: I have one here Link to comment
pl_svn Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 between the end of *center* soldering point and "beginning" of cable crimp? 9mm Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Thanks. And I've been told the new one is only 1,4 mm ? Elec should be 12 mm. I think the Elec is quite good. And it's not mase in ?? Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Michael-Elijah Audio said: Standard vs. modified Elac plugs - opening now 8.5mm - big enough for almost any cable...:) May I ask what size of cable you intend to use ? (Or brand & model) Cable chrimp diameter is 7,6 mm, so I would expect a challenge with a cable above that size or ? Link to comment
Popular Post JohnSwenson Posted May 3, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2017 4 hours ago, R1200CL said: The Chinese manufacturer will make a test sample with the new Oyaide plugs with the Canare 4S6 cable, as he think this is doable. I'm not so sure he is right, so this is very nice of him to do. Probably ready during weekend. Will post pictures then. I'm trying to convince him to sell directly to end user. But I think I will have to make a poll or a spreadsheet in order to convince him there is enough buyers. (Of cause he does not like to waste money on the expensive Oyaide plugs). I must say I like these plugs as well. They should even be able to do a shielded cable from Canare. And then the right way is to have open shield in one end. Actually the end where your consumer (Microrendu or ISO regen) sits. I'm thinking about having him making Ethernet cables as well. Possible with the best plugs available and a Belden cable Open shield in one end as well. That's why you put direction on cables. The open open shield at one end is NOT the right way to do it. The last time I tried to bring this up I was thrashed by a large number of very angry people (I had no idea shield connection was such an emotional topic for so many people) so I am loath to bring it up again. Part of the problem is that I have no test equipment right now so I can't PROVE it. At least for the DC cables an unshielded starquad is better than one with improper shield. I have to make up my mind whether I want to talk about proper shielding at this time or not. John S. Middy and zerung 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Michael-Elijah Audio Posted May 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2017 The cable I'm using is - Response WB-1762 (OD 8mm) https://www.jaycar.com.au/medias/sys_master/images/8954952024094/WB1762-dataSheetMain.pdf Forehaven, Cornan, Middy and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted May 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, JohnSwenson said: The open open shield at one end is NOT the right way to do it. The last time I tried to bring this up I was thrashed by a large number of very angry people (I had no idea shield connection was such an emotional topic for so many people) so I am loath to bring it up again. Part of the problem is that I have no test equipment right now so I can't PROVE it. At least for the DC cables an unshielded starquad is better than one with improper shield. I have to make up my mind whether I want to talk about proper shielding at this time or not. John S. You've already, as you said, talked about this, so I think interested people should use the search function to look up what you had to say about it. I was frankly quite pleased to think that if (likely when) I decide to do this, I can happily use unshielded cable and not worry about connecting a shield at one or both ends. MikeyFresh and dtb300 2 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
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