DIY DC power cables

[Jud]

6 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

 

So if I assume average buyer is 3 feet. And I charge close to $3, that should be around $15 including everything. 

Probably to expensive ?

 

I am more like 5' 10".

 

Edit: My apologies, I just love really bad jokes.   I think you have a good idea.

[R1200CL]

3 minutes ago, Jud said:

I am more like 5' 10".

 

Shit. ??? (Thanks) 

[Middy]

10 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

 

Shit. ??? (Thanks) 

 

Yer that's an extra $2.93 for Jud. + P+P

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[tedwoods]

High quality diy plugs and wire from the parallel universe of the guitar world:

1. https://www.3monkeysamps.com/collections/all/products/new-product

2. https://www.3monkeysamps.com/collections/all/products/3-monkeys-solderless-cable

They are solderless too...

[Middy]

13 hours ago, tedwoods said:

High quality diy plugs and wire from the parallel universe of the guitar world:

1. https://www.3monkeysamps.com/collections/all/products/new-product

2. https://www.3monkeysamps.com/collections/all/products/3-monkeys-solderless-cable

They are solderless too...

 

The wife could make those..

I taught her:  lefty loosey , Right tightey 

She can use a hair dryer.. Job done..

 

You could use simple self cutting nut on multi strand wires. A light cone shape just gripping the outer wires. 

it's the same technique when stripping wires for tinning. leave a small section of sleeving don't pull it off ...twist clockwise to stop bird caging the bundle before tinning...

pop each one in the top housing....

 

Multi million dollar idea done...?

 

Ill call you all from my private jet later..

 

[pl_svn]

9 minutes ago, Middy said:

...twist clockwise

 

 

*counter*-clockwise

 

[Middy]

between you and John ..I dont know where to turn...?

[austinpop]

Something like this for the Canare?

 

http://www.markertek.com/product/4s6/canare-4s6-star-quad-speaker-cable-by-the-foot-black?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&gclid=CjwKEAjw_uvHBRDUkumF0tLFp3cSJACAIHMYKsc63BEYOsVf_--QePTV1nnfoTsI8NmHGUAOmHu2ExoCSqjw_wcB

[tedwoods]

8 hours ago, Middy said:

 

The wife could make those..

I taught her:  lefty loosey , Right tightey 

She can use a hair dryer.. Job done..

 

You could use simple self cutting nut on multi strand wires. A light cone shape just gripping the outer wires. 

it's the same technique when stripping wires for tinning. leave a small section of sleeving don't pull it off ...twist clockwise to stop bird caging the bundle before tinning...

pop each one in the top housing....

 

Multi million dollar idea done...?

 

Ill call you all from my private jet later..

 

They work as advertised. I have them on my pedal board. And indeed, you can use another type of wire as long as it's roughly of the same gauge, although preferably the center conductor has to be solid core, as most concentric cables are.

 

(Out of topic, but one of the 3 Monkeys is Brad Whitford, of Aerosmith fame. I have one of their amps too ...)

[Middy]

A great design

I think it could be scaled up to multi core and multiple wires. Canare quad.

4 self tapping heads and fitted into a body... no soldering..

I found these as a cheap alternative gold plated: 

 

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/182139945637

 

fancy ones

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Gold-Plated-DC-Jack-5-5mm-2-1mm-2-5mm-DC-Power-Connector-plug-/132118795705?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150519202348%26meid%3D495d8ccbd74c4d3d83773c0e4724b253%26pid%3D100408%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D18%26sd%3D182139945637&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

[tboooe]

Thank you @JohnSwenson as always for your contribution.

 

 I am going to make a Y cable to power my SU-1 and soon to be purchased IsoRegen from an LPS-1.

[Middy]

3 minutes ago, tboooe said:

Thank you @JohnSwenson as always for your contribution.  

 

A sentiment I agree with whole heartedly ?

Haven't found Canare Quad.

But those gold DC connectors and other brand quad coming my way.

Good luck with the DIY  'Y 'cable

Tboooe 

[tboooe]

18 minutes ago, Middy said:

A sentiment I agree with whole heartedly ?

Haven't found Canare Quad.

But those gold DC connectors and other brand quad coming my way.

Good luck with the DIY  'Y 'cable

Tboooe 

Did you check the Markertek website linked by austinpop above?  Free shipping too!

 

Which DC connectors are you getting?  The ones on eBay in your last post?

[Middy]

Both ?  A little DIY bling  never hurts

I thought why not. I don't think I will get free shipping from the USA. 

(Just asked for a quote ?) Ty Tboooe Austinpop

I ordered UK Vandame quad 2 metres.

Shielded... Only short length supply..

 

All the DIY cables I have tried I haven't had much luck improving SQ but I can do these.

Ohms law is something to do with a Victorian detective to me.. but soldering...?

I did get into trouble in work as we had American VIPS.  One asked me if I do sod-her-ing (Sol-der-ing UK)  Only with the right girl.... They laughed but my boss wasn't happy....

 

John if you have time do you do anything... what was the thoughts on shields you mentioned with Alex and the wrong way... I remembered before your theory on having open ended with a wire soldered on the outside?

No problem either way. 

Thanks all

Dave

[austinpop]

1 hour ago, tboooe said:

Did you check the Markertek website linked by austinpop above?  Free shipping too!

 

Yup - I ordered 15ft. I lack sod-der-ing skills, so excited to try a DIY project using the screw terminals!

[austinpop]

Btw - looking forward to John's report on the Canare.

[Superdad]

3 minutes ago, austinpop said:

Btw - looking forward to John's report on the Canare.

 

Do you mean the one in the coal mine?  It died.  Because the music was such gas. 

 

(Sorry...)

[austinpop]

1 minute ago, Superdad said:

 

Do you mean the one in the coal mine?  It died.  Because the music was such gas. 

 

Back to work, Crespi!  

[Middy]

Nice one Austinpop, Get him to stop trying on Bright shirts and watching Hawaii Five' 0 re runs. 

Isn't that new Iso thread done yet????

 

 

[MikeyFresh]

1 hour ago, austinpop said:

 

Yup - I ordered 15ft. I lack sod-der-ing skills, so excited to try a DIY project using the screw terminals!

 

I too ordered the Canare 4S6 from Markertek, however I pan to solder using the Oyaide DC-2.1 plugs, hopefully they will actually fit as the wire's outer diameter is 1/4" and the inner diameter of the plug barrel is also 1/4", so really no room to spare.

 

I also have some of the cheapie Vanguard 2.1mm DC plugs I sourced some time ago on eBay, however they only have a 4mm barrel opening and so aren't even close to big enough for use with Canare 4S6, anyone considering those specific plugs needs to be using some pretty small wire.

[MikeyFresh]

22 hours ago, Middy said:

A great design

I think it could be scaled up to multi core and multiple wires. Canare quad.

4 self tapping heads and fitted into a body... no soldering..

I found these as a cheap alternative gold plated: 

 

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/182139945637

 

fancy ones

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Gold-Plated-DC-Jack-5-5mm-2-1mm-2-5mm-DC-Power-Connector-plug-/132118795705?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150519202348%26meid%3D495d8ccbd74c4d3d83773c0e4724b253%26pid%3D100408%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D18%26sd%3D182139945637&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

 

Sadly I don't think either of those DC plugs will work with Canare 4S6, unless I'm reading it wrong that cable has a 1/4" outer diameter, while each of the above plugs has a 4mm barrel opening or approximately .15" which is way too small for that wire.

 

I have some 4S6 on the way to me, and I already have some of the Vanguard DC plugs on hand so I can confirm all of this in a few days once I receive the wire shipment.

 

One could strip the outer jacketing off further up than normal and then use the plug's strain relief clamp directly on the actual conductor bundle, but that is decidedly less than optimal from a durability standpoint. I guess if you then added some heat shrink over the barrel/wire junction that should hold pretty well, and maybe even a turn or two of thin Teflon plumber's tape over the conductor bundle where it lines up with the plug clamp/strain relief would add back some durability too.

[Middy]

I wasn't sure it would. .. Squeeze it in and like you said some creative heatshrinking.... Maybe a very small cable tie, I haven't tried hot glue or silicone in one of these before....

Thank you Mikey?

 

Being a machinist in a past life...

Rather than spend the money on expensive Japanese Conns.  

A small CNC house could make small custom bigger aluminium shells for Alex and John? and just buy the inner plugs. 

Or is it the inner hot pin and GND that needs some extra room.

A knurled anodised turned custom shell can't be more than a dollar +.  If it takes 15 second each I'd be suprised....

Just thinking out load again..Apologies all.

 

 

[Superdad]

3 minutes ago, Middy said:

A small CNC house could make small custom bigger aluminium shells for Alex and John? and just buy the inner plugs. 

Or is it the inner hot pin and GND that needs some extra room.

 

The rear opening of the Oyaide DC-2.1G plug shell is 6.45mm.   And yes, as I posted numerous times, the newer version is shortened and has the center pin and ground strap/strain relief too close together to be usable with big star-quad wire.  That's why I begged Oayide and had them put 1,000 of the original style back into production just for UpTone.  They will finally arrive in about 10 days, just before our current stock from last year runs out.

 

For DIY star-quad DC cables with big wire and barrel connectors, unless you are willing to solder a small pair pigtail and then solder-splice, there really are only two choices: The original Oyaide plugs or the screw terminal/barrel plugs.

Since I have the market cornered on the original Oyaide plugs (and please no e-mails asking me to sell 'em by the piece), I'd suggest people get comfortable with the screw terminal type.

[JohnSwenson]

5 hours ago, austinpop said:

Btw - looking forward to John's report on the Canare.

OK, the Canare 4S6 came in yesterday. It is MUCH easier to work with than the West Penn 244, the conductors are 20AWG and much finer stranding. It is significantly more flexible as well.

 

Doing a single starquad into the screw terminal plugs is a piece of cake with this cable. I was even able to do a Y-cable with it. That was significantly harder to do, but it did work. Even the Y-cable was easier than the straight cable with the 244.

 

Now on to the sound. I was expecting that do to the thinner conductors it might not sound quite as good as the 244. Well far from it! This cable with the 4S6 sounds better than the 244. The SBT when fed power from an LPS-1 and this starquad cable is producing some of the best sounding music I have ever heard! This is mind blowing that the $200 SBT when fed good power is transformed into such an incredibly good sounding device. Note this is only when plugging the headphones directly into the SBT, the line outs don't sound any where near as good.

 

Given the above I heartily recommend the Canare 4S6 starquad cable for making DC cables. 

 

John S.

[R1200CL]

To bad I have to purchase 300 ft, for them to ship abroad. ?

10 ft would been enough.