Light Harmonic (LH Labs). Scam? USD$6 million not delivered since 2014

[Ralf11]

You need an uncle named "Luigi"...

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ok, there ya go - class action lawsuit and serve the co. repr. at one of the shows

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a lawsuit could be filed in any number of countries, all of which have different standards to win; much less to settle on favorable terms

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you can do that spud

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On 1/8/2019 at 6:38 PM, Superdad said:

 

Since you asked:

Years ago--about the time when LH was running crowd-fleecing campaigns on near half a dozen product concepts while they were already a year late in delivering the simple Pulse DAC--I added up the gross (literally gross) amounts of all their Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaigns.  Came to just over $6 million at the time (though that did include the original GeekOut campaign, which went pretty well).

 

Dayum!!

 

I am gonna start a kickstarter for graphene battery super-duper-capacitors!!

[Ralf11]

https://oag.ca.gov/cfs

 

https://consumercal.org/resources/consumer-complaint-directory/

 

 

[Ralf11]

23 minutes ago, Blake said:

 

If by "LH" you mean Larry in his individual capacity- I intend to pierce the corporate veil and go after his personal assets.  If you are referring to Light Harmonic, your point is a good one but I will still add them.  Jarek has posted coments in the fora that provides me with good arguments that Light Harmonic has assumed LH Labs liabilities.  I will provide links to the pertinent comments by Jarek to aid in that argument.

 

P.S. To all:  Nothing I post is to be construed as legal advice or any offer to represent you.  I am not your lawyer.  I am not representing anyone, nor will I be representing anyone in the future.  You are advised to seek out your own counsel.

 

 

Good to hear.  I posted some links upthread about Calif's Consumer Protection Office.

 

I believe that someone brought a class action in a Calif. small claims court - may have been again Honda Motors.  That might get his attention.

 

California has a very robust set of consumer protection laws in their Business Code. 

 

If your good buddy "Larry" owns any real property in Calif. that would be a fun target...

 

piercing the corporate veil is often used (or attempted) against corporate polluters, and some hazardous waste statutes do so explicitly - that case law, and books on it, may provide some useful information

[Ralf11]

On 1/30/2019 at 3:13 PM, Ralf11 said:

https://oag.ca.gov/cfs

 

https://consumercal.org/resources/consumer-complaint-directory/

 

 

 

...🤺

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1 hour ago, mansr said:

Then, clearly, you are someone hired by Larry to do damage control. Here's a hint: it ain't working.

 

are you saying he is really Scroggie??

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https://debtorprotectors.com/blog/2017/07/12/unfair-business-practices/

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whose

 

I hope people can get their money back from you

[Ralf11]

maybe he (correctly) surmises that a fraudulent company can damage other companies in the same very small market sector

 

he is correct BTW

[Ralf11]

"Some people love us and actively seek to buy our products still."

 

Must be those seduced by ads but who haven't tried to order

 

but the ones who sent you money seem to hate you

[Ralf11]

2 hours ago, brucknerdoc said:

Absolutely -

There is nothing good to come from LHL comments any more - no honesty, no commitment to buyers - NO PRODUCT

LHL critique or commentary on anything has no meaning or value until they prove they are a viable entity rather than a deliberate or inadvertent scam

 

the good that may come from his comments is exposure of the continuing fraud

 

also, it makes this thread more likely to show up in a search

[Ralf11]

On 10/27/2019 at 9:59 PM, LHCommSquad said:

 

Good questions. Since LH Labs is basically not funded at this point by crowdfunding, any remaining LH Labs product will probably be shipped as Light Harmonic products/branding. 

 

Thx for warning us

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On 1/1/2020 at 9:33 PM, noshortcuts said:

All those who contributed to the spreadsheet of losses - please check your email and Spam for email from: [email protected].

The deadline is Jan. 3rd to confirm that you will "join the complaint". To join you need to read the email and attachments and send back one document.

Happy New Year!

 

Email CC to post this as a thread banner like in Rajiv's thread - I sent him a msg via report post on it this am