Spotify Lossless?

[mrvco]

I just saw this, but haven't been following Spotify for quite some time. This would go a long way to start validating lossless as a service. Tidal being the only (US) player in this space has always made me a bit nervous with regards to the longterm viability.

 

[h=1]Spotify is testing a lossless subscription tier for $15 to $20 per month[/h]

[Samuel T Cogley]

Integrate it with Roon, and I'll kick Tidal to the curb!

[Confused]

Integrate it with Roon, and I'll kick Tidal to the curb!

I'm sure many would agree with this sentiment. There has been much talk re Spotify on the Roon forum, and in summary it would appear Spotify are not interested in talking to Roon. So it does not look like this might happen any time soon. A shame, but that's how it looks.

[Samuel T Cogley]

I'm sure many would agree with this sentiment. There has been much talk re Spotify on the Roon forum, and in summary it would appear Spotify are not interested in talking to Roon. So it does not look like this might happen any time soon. A shame, but that's how it looks.

 

Spotify might come around if they believed Roon integration would drive demand for lossless subscriptions.

[Confused]

Spotify might come around if they believed Roon integration would drive demand for lossless subscriptions.

I'm quite sure integration with Roon would boost demand, but I suspect the numbers are too small. Spotify has something like 40 million subscribers with over 30 million paying subs. I suspect that the numbers Roon would add would minuscule in relative terms.

[Miska]

So far Spotify has been very tight to keep their own client as only front-end to the service. This is one of the major differences to Tidal and possibly one of the reasons why Tidal has succeeded as well as it has.

[SWL3600]

Spotify...Lossless? Sign me up. It's about time Spotify. [emoji106]

 

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[jhwalker]

Spotify...Lossless? Sign me up. It's about time Spotify. [emoji106]

 

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Spotify has such a huge catalog (along with iTunes) that a lossless service from them would be a must-buy for me.

[SWL3600]

Hopefully it's available on the desktop app.

 

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[DancingSea]

Here's hoping competition drives prices down.

 

 

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[tapasr_567783583008b]

I'm in if they go lossless. I wonder if the sony hap z1es would need a firm ware update to play it? Sounds exciting. Get it done Spotify!

 

 

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[realhifi]

I'm in if they go lossless. I wonder if the sony hap z1es would need a firm ware update to play it? Sounds exciting. Get it done Spotify!

 

 

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Do the Sony Hap players do Spotify?

[tapasr_567783583008b]

Yes

 

 

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[realhifi]

Yes

 

 

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With those being in the network can they be Roon endpoints?

[Confused]

A few days ago I posted the fact that Spotify had 40 million users as a reason why they would not be interested in a tie up with the relatively tiny Roon. This morning I see Spotify announcing that they have 50 million users. It does look like they have momentum. To put this into perspective, I was chatting to a bunch of guys at work this week, all in their early 30's. I asked them if they had heard of Roon. None of them had. When I explained about Roon, they seam puzzled why they would need such a thing. The point is though, about two thirds of them stated simply that they used Spotify. When I was chatting about ripping CD's, lostless streaming, one guy simply stated that there is no point ripping his CD's, everything he has on CD is on Spotify anyway, so why bother. It's always good to talk to normal folk (non-audiophiles) occasionally to keep a sense of perspective. Although I do agree with earlier posters, Spotify's catalogue available 'lostless' would be a compelling offering.

[Jay-dub]

Does Spotify still have a lot of content with audible watermarking?

 

 

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[loop7]

Integrate it with Roon, and I'll kick Tidal to the curb!

Yeah, Spotify seems to have a lot of classical albums that I'm not able to find on TIDAL so I agree Roon integration would be very compelling for me as well.

[R1200CL]

So far Spotify has been very tight to keep their own client as only front-end to the service.

 

Remind me of a certain other SW [emoji3]

 

(Well that was probably not fair at all. I'm under the impression those things has changed with the embedded version)

[miguelito]

Does Spotify still have a lot of content with audible watermarking?

I was not aware of this. Can you explain?

[arcman]

Does Spotify do gapless? Roon allows Tidal to do gapless

[miguelito]

So far Spotify has been very tight to keep their own client as only front-end to the service. This is one of the major differences to Tidal and possibly one of the reasons why Tidal has succeeded as well as it has.

There's Sonos...

[Cebolla]

Spotify can maintain their user interface control easier when access is via closed systems like Sonos.

[miguelito]

Spotify can maintain their user interface control easier when access is via closed systems like Sonos.

Access over Sonos is quite barebones, there's really nothing remaining from the Spotify interface in it (I use it). I don't think it has anything to do with hardware per-se other that those implementations are simple and require very little maintenance. I think the line gets blurred with software implementations that can get enriched and change dramatically very quickly and make Spotify's "edge" in interface more diluted.

[realhifi]

Access over Sonos is quite barebones, there's really nothing remaining from the Spotify interface in it (I use it). I don't think it has anything to do with hardware per-se other that those implementations are simple and require very little maintenance. I think the line gets blurred with software implementations that can get enriched and change dramatically very quickly and make Spotify's "edge" in interface more diluted.

 

But now that Spotify Connect can be used with Sonos it makes it a more compelling option. Also,now that Roon can be used with Sonos it makes it a better product also.

[miguelito]

But now that Spotify Connect can be used with Sonos it makes it a more compelling option. Also,now that Roon can be used with Sonos it makes it a better product also.

Ah, very true. I suppose the only reason would be their control of the experience. Additionally I have always wondered about their tracking of users habits, playlists, etc. For example, if they allowed a Roon interface they wouldn't get data such as songs started but skipped, browsing habits without playing, etc etc. I would bet this is all data they collect.