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18 hours ago, damien78 said:

The license validation must be done once every 2 weeks. So you need to connect your Mac to the Internet every two weeks.

 

This is the reason why I won't even consider upgrading from v. 2. A one time activation process is the most I'll ever accept as DRM. This new scheme will probably only bring you bad will and lost sales. Hope you reconsider.

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I do understand anti-piracy measures and requiring an internet connection on first install is fine

but treating each and every customer as a (potential) thief o.O is unacceptable! 

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3 hours ago, mevdinc said:

I also think there should be a better way to check for license validation.
I'm sure Damien will come up with a more practical and reasonable solution.

Agreed. Another solution would be appreciated in my implementation.

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I also will not upgrade to v3. I appreciate Damian's work over the years to deliver high SQ to the MacOS platform. However, the increase in complexity of the product, the continuing weakness of database handling (and bugs), as well as the inclusion of a sonically-compromised and proprietary protocol (MQA) are deal-breakers for me. The adoption of the new verification system is not appropriate for me as I often am offline.

 

I will continue to enjoy Audirvana 2.6 and would request that Damian continue to support this version.

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Poor Damien, he must be beginning to wish he had never heard of MQA, let alone implemented it.

 

Yes, this version at the moment holds no interest for me at all, and will not until 1) major bugs are fixed, 2) license is immune from absnce of ability to regularly check home, and 3) the library is fixed to include browsing and sorting by folders. And given the MQA ongoing seemingly continuous problems I would personally refer 2.6 to be retained with library improved as a matter of urgency, then maybe re-release 3 as a v4, much like Microsoft rapidly had to replace the awful Win8.

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4 hours ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Poor Damien, he must be beginning to wish he had never heard of MQA, let alone implemented it.

 

Yes, this version at the moment holds no interest for me at all, and will not until 1) major bugs are fixed, 2) license is immune from absnce of ability to regularly check home, and 3) the library is fixed to include browsing and sorting by folders. And given the MQA ongoing seemingly continuous problems I would personally refer 2.6 to be retained with library improved as a matter of urgency, then maybe re-release 3 as a v4, much like Microsoft rapidly had to replace the awful Win8.

 

Hm - works perfectly for me.  And exactly which "MQA ongoing seemingly continuous problems" are affecting you?

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7 minutes ago, jhwalker said:

 

Hm - works perfectly for me.  And exactly which "MQA ongoing seemingly continuous problems" are affecting you?

Sorry, that was typed in transit and the MQA in that phrase was spurious from an edit: Delete the 'MQA' when reading that. 

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Oh, now what about those of us running a headless Mac inside a home network dedicated to music playback from the NAS and USB/Firewire connected storage only ?

I do N O T like this kind of behaviour that an application starts talking to Mum or Dad without asking me !

I have paid my license fee for all three major release versions.
If my system is running fine I even do not follow up on every update.

Damien, this is really disappointing !

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Also, this may be the first version of A+ that has actually done anything when the SYStem OPTimizer was set to on...  How do I know?  Well, when Spotlight is turned off, and then back on again, it forces it to re-index your drive/drives again...

 

Every single time I turn A+ off after updating to 3.0.5 Spotlight goes nuts and so do my fans.

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+1!

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Obviously sailing against the tide here, but I was just about to remark on spending a lovely late afternoon/early evening with nothing else to do (extremely rare for me lately) listening to Fleetwood Mac's "Bare Trees" and Steely Dan's "Countdown to Ecstasy" and "Pretzel Logic," thinking how wonderful the music sounded.

 

The "phone home" license checking doesn't adversely affect me, but I empathize with those for whom it does and hope a workable solution is found.

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On 4/11/2017 at 1:34 PM, damien78 said:

The license validation must be done once every 2 weeks. So you need to connect your Mac to the Internet every two weeks.

Hi @damien78: Is there usage data transmitted or just a license verification? What happens if A+ wants to check at a moment when I don't have a connection, like on a plane, or on vacation and without a reliable connection?

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14 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Hi @damien78: Is there usage data transmitted or just a license verification? What happens if A+ wants to check at a moment when I don't have a connection, like on a plane, or on vacation and without a reliable connection?

@damien78: You see, my problem is that I mostly use A+ on my laptop when I leave the house. This means often I have not used A+ until I am on the road and more often than not this means internet connections are spotty.

 

So in all likelihood I will bump into this on a plane or somewhere where I don't have an internet connection.

 

I think I'm "upgrading" back to 2.6.5! 

 

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For the license thing, if Adobe and Microsoft can't do anything about piracy, i doubt that Damien could...

If this licensing was for that reason alone, i would go back.

 

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