orgel Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just received an email from Roon Labs stating that Roon 1.3 is being released today, so I'm starting this thread proactively. Here's the text of the email: We're very excited to announce that Roon 1.3 is going live today! This is our most ambitious release ever – in the works for nearly nine months – but we think it's been worth the wait. With new streaming hardware support, audio processing, DSP, file handling, metadata management, and social sharing, there are new features and improvements in almost every area of the product. We've incorporated hundreds of suggestions from you, and thrown in a few of our own: With the 1.3 update, Roon now streams to Sonos devices! This means all the users in a home – with one app and one music collection – can play music to Sonos, Airplay, Squeezebox, Sooloos, and any of over 50 Roon Ready devices available today. We've added a whole family of audio and DSP features with a 64-bit audio pipeline, including dynamic range analysis, EQ, upsampling, crossfeed for headphones, and adjustments for headroom as well as corrections for speaker phase and delay. Roon learns about you as you use it. You create playlists, tags, and groom your collection to be presented just the way you want. Now all of that can be automatically backed up, both locally and to Dropbox. Backups are incremental and configurable, so you can save as much history as you like. Roon users have been talking about their favorite music on our community site, on social networks, and even by texting screenshots from their phones. With 1.3, you can create shareable images about artists, albums, and songs, including all of Roon's metadata and your own comments. Images can be posted directly to Facebook, Twitter, and Imgur, or saved to your device. Starting with a new lightning-fast search, we've improved performance across the board. Audio and database operations are faster, and communication between Core and Remotes is more responsive. There's so much in Roon 1.3 that it would be impossible to cover here. We'll be sending some emails over the next few weeks to dive into some of the new key features in greater detail. Now is a good time to make sure you have a current backup and confirm your system meets our recommendations if you're going to take advantage of Roon's new DSP features. As always, we want to hear how Roon is working for you. Have a comment, a suggestion, or just want to share the love? Drop by our community site and say hello! Thanks as always for your support! The team at Roon Labs --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
xiddox Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 There's already a thread on this Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Home screen! "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
matthias Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 It is very disappointing that úpsampling DSD64 to higher rate DSD goes through intermediate PCM conversion. So Roon has something to improve in the future. Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 It is very disappointing that úpsampling DSD64 to higher rate DSD goes through intermediate PCM conversion. So Roon has something to improve in the future. Matt Yes, a JRiver-ism too. It seems no one can DSP within SDM/DSD except folks like Jussi and his HQPlayer capabilities. This is a basic tablestake for a player in 2017, IMO. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
matthias Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Yes, a JRiver-ism too. It seems no one can DSP within SDM/DSD except folks like Jussi and his HQPlayer capabilities. This is a basic tablestake for a player in 2017, IMO. What about Daphile and Audirvana? Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
arglebargle Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Out of curiosity anyone here got this running on Arch Linux? I can't get my iOS devices to talk to RoonServer 1.3 on Arch. Not really looking for troubleshooting, just curious if its me or some larger issue. Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 What about Daphile and Audirvana? Matt Matt, not sure. Damien is good, so maybe A+ is doing upsampling wholly within DSD. Daily A+ users can chime in. No idea about Daphile. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Jud Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Matt, not sure. Damien is good, so maybe A+ is doing upsampling wholly within DSD. Daily A+ users can chime in. No idea about Daphile. Audirvana Plus doesn't upsample DSD at present. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
matthias Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Audirvana Plus doesn't upsample DSD at present. Daphiles DSD upsampling is in Beta and as Daphile and Audirvana both use mansrs algorithms it should be only a matter of time. Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
orgel Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 It is very disappointing that úpsampling DSD64 to higher rate DSD goes through intermediate PCM conversion. So Roon has something to improve in the future. Yeah, Brian acknowledged that. In Roon's favor, upsampling PCM to DSD is easy to configure. Without reinstalling Roon on my iMac, I can't do an apples-to-apples comparison with HQP, but I was pleasantly surprised at just how good Roon's SRC sounds. If the Roon guys are right about ROCK's capabilities, that could be a good one-cheap-box solution for a lot of people, IMO. Meanwhile, I'll be sticking with HQP for my upsampling/filtering needs. I just have too much good DSD64 source material to take the DSD-PCM-DSD hit. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
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