UkPhil Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, MikeyFresh said: I bet that's right, though I'd also be curious then if King Crimson is available in "Masters" on TIDAL or not. If it is, and UMG had not obtained proper authorization from the artist, Fripp could potentially be another Neil Young in waiting. No sign of King Crimson on Tidal MQA listings as far as I can see at the moment MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
Hifi Bob Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 hours ago, UkPhil said: Look like Japan is still churning out the prog classics in mQa CD format, why what's the point surely the 24/96 Blu Ray release was more than anyone would need if you wanted to fill your boots with Hi-Res or just the normal CD to be honest seen as we are going back 1969 with this one But if that’s seen as a good thing then dual-layer SACD is better since the CD layer is unadulterated and you can have separate masters, a squashed one for in the car and a dynamic one for at home. Link to comment
Popular Post lucretius Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Hifi Bob said: But if that’s seen as a good thing then dual-layer SACD is better since the CD layer is unadulterated and you can have separate masters, a squashed one for in the car and a dynamic one for at home. Re dual layer SACD: The Cd layer can be from any master -- maybe it's created from the same source as the SACD, maybe not. Perhaps they just grabbed any old Redbook version (not necessarily a good one) and included it. The CD Layer may or may not be heavily compressed. There are no guarantees -- you don't know until you check. kumakuma and Samuel T Cogley 2 mQa is dead! Link to comment
svart-hvitt Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 @John_Atkinson, I found what you wrote about anonymity interesting and wanted to hear the Stereophile policy on anonymous sources: (1) Would you provide the identity of an anonymous source to a company which claims that the anonymous person hurt the interests of that company? (2) Do you ignore anonymous sources that provide you with information that may hurt the interests of a company? MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, lucretius said: Re dual layer SACD: The Cd layer can be from any master -- ................................................... -- you don't know until you check. If you care. 🙄 lucretius 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 We've been around this anonymity circle before with @John_Atkinson. There's no need to do it again. Just search the thread. ambre and botrytis 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
John_Atkinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, svart-hvitt said: @John_Atkinson, I found what you wrote about anonymity interesting and wanted to hear the Stereophile policy on anonymous sources: (1) Would you provide the identity of an anonymous source to a company which claims that the anonymous person hurt the interests of that company? As Stereophile doesn't publish content from anonymous sources, your question is moot. The author of every article and review that is published in Stereophile is clearly identified with his or her real name. 12 minutes ago, svart-hvitt said: (2) Do you ignore anonymous sources that provide you with information that may hurt the interests of a company? A meaningless question. John Atkinson Technical Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
ambre Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: We've been around this anonymity circle before with @John_Atkinson. There's no need to do it again. Just search the thread. Dear Cris, Could you please add a new button for annoying postings …that’s missing. This seems to be a never ending discussion …debate without any kind of news. LarryMagoo 1 Quote Ethernet::4x Bonn Silent Angel 8P, Afterdark Emperor Doublr Crown Masterclock and Cybershaft 75 Ohm,Mini Circuits convertor,Uptone EtherRegen with 75Ohm. SOTM Cat CAT 7. Audio: Auralic Vega G2.1, Cambridge Edge W, Kef Reference 3 speakers. Power: Farad super 3 (2x) , Keces P8 ( 2 Uptone LPS1.2 ) Afterdark 5V: Cables:Meicord Opal, SOTM Cat7 with filtering, Ghent Audio DC , Farad Level 2, Sharkwire speaker cable Link to comment
Popular Post botrytis Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 There is no mQa news as it is the same ol' same ol' svart-hvitt, MikeyFresh and lucretius 3 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
lucretius Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Kal Rubinson said: If you care. 🙄 I know you only want the multi-channel version. mQa is dead! Link to comment
Currawong Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, John_Atkinson said: As Stereophile doesn't publish content from anonymous sources, your question is moot. The author of every article and review that is published in Stereophile is clearly identified with his or her real name. Unless it was Sam Tellig, who was Tom Gillett posting under a pseudonym. So... not true. Link to comment
Popular Post KeenObserver Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 19 hours ago, opus101 said: @GoldenOne's thread over on ASR seems at long last to be generating more light than heat. Things are looking up Looks like a setup. Mansr was banned. A new poster appears that posts something like 180 post on this thread, repeating every MQA talking point. He makes every snide remark in the book. When other posters refute the BS, they are told to be "scientific" or some such. The direction of the thread is being tightly controlled. But, yes, some truth is getting out. lucretius, Josh Mound, MikeyFresh and 1 other 4 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
John_Atkinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Currawong said: Unless it was Sam Tellig. I said in an earlier posting that this (Tom Gillett writing for Stereophile under the pen name Sam Tellig) was agreed to 2 years before I joined Stereophile in 1986. I honored that agreement, even though I disagreed with it. John Atkinson Technical Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Currawong said: Unless it was Sam Tellig, who was Tom Gillett posting under a pseudonym. So... not true. He already mentioned that there was one legacy pseudonym when he became editor. None now. So your post is unfair. botrytis, John_Atkinson and opus101 3 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post Currawong Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 Then he should have added something like "With one exception in the past...". It's not hard to be complete factual. If anything, I've been fairer on JA than other people here. The main point is, to use myself as an example, that what I say as a reviewer will influence what people buy. I'm very wary that people will spend money as a result of what I say. I believe that John has to consider the responsibility he has for hyping MQA, as a clear consequence of being duped by Bob Stuart in a rigged demonstration, using questionable science which wasn't properly investigated and turned out to be full of falsehoods. If I found out that I was responsible for such a thing, I know I'd take immediate action to correct it. Confused, MikeyFresh and botrytis 3 Link to comment
danadam Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Currawong said: Then he should have added something like "With one exception in the past...". So something like this?: On 6/2/2021 at 11:08 PM, John_Atkinson said: With one exception - an exception that was agreed to before I joined the magazine opus101 1 Link to comment
John_Atkinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Currawong said: Then he should have added something like "With one exception in the past...". I I did. John Atkinson Technical Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, lucretius said: I know you only want the multi-channel version. Or, if not available, the stereo DSD. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said: I said in an earlier posting that this (Tom Gillett writing for Stereophile under the pen name Sam Tellig) was agreed to 2 years before I joined Stereophile in 1986. I honored that agreement, even though I disagreed with it. And it was not much of a secret, even then. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 5:08 PM, John_Atkinson said: Not at all. Having worked in audio magazine publishing for 45 years, I strongly believe that if you are going to publish opinions and test results that may result in financial consequences for those whom you write about, you must do so using your actual name. With one exception - an exception that was agreed to before I joined the magazine - every contributor to Stereophile signs his work with his real name. John Atkinson Technical Editor, Stereophile I admire your ethical standards. For the sake of full disclosure and openness, could you answers the following questions. During your tenure at Stereophile, what percentage of the market did Meridian hold? During your tenure at Stereophile, how many reviews were made of Meridian equipment? What is your relationship with Bob Stuart? This will help the audiophile to make an honest assessment of the value of your pronouncements on things related to Bob Stuart. botrytis 1 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
botrytis Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, KeenObserver said: I admire your ethical standards. For the sake of full disclosure and openness, could you answers the following questions. During your tenure at Stereophile, what percentage of the market did Meridian hold? During your tenure at Stereophile, how many reviews were made of Meridian equipment? What is your relationship with Bob Stuart? This will help the audiophile to make an honest assessment of the value of your pronouncements on things related to Bob Stuart. What % of advertising dollars are from MQA. Not the amount, just the % would be useful. This gets to the meat of the nut. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
UkPhil Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just come across this video of Morten of 2L discussing MQA Link to comment
botrytis Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 People keep holding up Consumer Reports as a non-biased review magazine but actually it is. Being an not-for-profit, CR has to show who has donated money to them. At one point, the biggest donors to CR were the charity arms of Honda Motor Corp. and Toyota. Just saying... MikeyFresh 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post Currawong Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, John_Atkinson said: I did. In your first post, not after the omission is pointed out. Indeed, if you had done as I suggested, you could have added the one exception and mentioned it to your advantage, mentioning your disagreement. But, back on to MQA, do you not feel any responsibility for having promoted MQA, which has subsequently been shown to have behaved dishonestly? Even, at the very least, people who like it who believe they are getting the "real deal" with all the batch-processed music on TIDAL, when they clearly are not? LarryMagoo, MikeyFresh and kumakuma 3 Link to comment
botrytis Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I believe people should have a choice. If they like MQA - fine go for it. But, that is not how they are acting and that is the issue. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
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