Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, R1200CL said: Probably totally wrong tread to ask this objective question: Has Tidal made Redbook available again ? Maybe it’s my music I’m playing, but there isn’t almost none MQA showing up anymore. April 1st is tomorrow. Ran, Ishmael Slapowitz, sphinxsix and 6 others 9 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post Samuel T Cogley Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 20 hours ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said: More utter nonsense from Stereophile's 75 year old fossils. Fossils can't type. They're geezers. 🙂 lucretius, Ishmael Slapowitz and Teresa 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Ishmael Slapowitz Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Samuel T Cogley said: Fossils can't type. They're geezers. 🙂 True dat! Fremer has been bluffing his way through digital "reviews" for decades. For 30 years, not once has digital even equaled vinyl for him, but like Moses parting the Red Sea, MQA appears and sounds "just like vinyl"...magic!! The first time in 30 years! On a horrible measuring DAC to boot. 😅 lucretius, Samuel T Cogley, yahooboy and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Popular Post lucretius Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 3:54 PM, MikeyFresh said: Looks like no more MQA enabled phones. It's a bitch. MikeyFresh and yahooboy 1 1 mQa is dead! Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 One has to wonder what is behind this fanatical support for the MQA scheme. Even if it came to pass that MQA were able to implement their scheme, eventually people would come to realize what a horrible mistake it was. These people will be on the wrong side of history and their reputations will be forever damaged. Perhaps they believe that will be far in the future. Or, perhaps, they believe that they have to continue on this fool's errand believing that they can fool all the people all the time. They still believe that they are the final arbiter of all things audiophile. MikeyFresh 1 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
John Dyson Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, KeenObserver said: One has to wonder what is behind this fanatical support for the MQA scheme. Even if it came to pass that MQA were able to implement their scheme, eventually people would come to realize what a horrible mistake it was. These people will be on the wrong side of history and their reputations will be forever damaged. Perhaps they believe that will be far in the future. Or, perhaps, they believe that they have to continue on this fool's errand believing that they can fool all the people all the time. They still believe that they are the final arbiter of all things audiophile. They are depending on 'Emperors' new clothes' taking off. It hppefully will not, like 'new Coke'. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 6:43 PM, Ishmael Slapowitz said: "Promises was officially released a few days ago so I streamed it on both Qobuz and Tidal, where it’s available on both services as 44.1kHz/24 bit FLAC streams. Firstly, having acclimated to the vinyl, hearing either stream was disappointing, but especially the Qobuz stream. Often (but not always), the Qobuz stream bests the Tidal stream when Tidal isn’t an MQA file but this time the Tidal stream was fuller, sweeter and more expansive, like the vinyl, but still not quite as “wall-to-wall” or enveloping. If “digital is digital”, what happened? Whatever it was, get the vinyl!" More utter nonsense from Stereophile's 75 year old fossils. Qobuz only wins when the Master Quack lossy, distorted special sauce isn't applied. What a hoot. https://www.analogplanet.com/content/floating-points-pharoah-sanders-lso-offer-promises-they-keep Tidal offers a Pure PCM 16 bit 44.1 kHz version. Qobuz offers a Pure PCM 24 bit 44.1 kHz version. HDtracks also offers a Pure PCM 24 bit 44.1 kHz version. If I had to guess, the master is 24/44.1 and is what Qobuz offers. Either the conversion from 24 to 16 bit made it sound "fuller, sweeter and more expansive" or something else is up. MikeyFresh and Ishmael Slapowitz 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
StephenJK Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 17 hours ago, KeenObserver said: One has to wonder what is behind this fanatical support for the MQA scheme. Even if it came to pass that MQA were able to implement their scheme, eventually people would come to realize what a horrible mistake it was. These people will be on the wrong side of history and their reputations will be forever damaged. Perhaps they believe that will be far in the future. Or, perhaps, they believe that they have to continue on this fool's errand believing that they can fool all the people all the time. They still believe that they are the final arbiter of all things audiophile. I think that would be obvious - the major music labels. The thought of people having to buy their music collections all over again has more than one executive staring out the window and thinking fondly of the days past - the days of minimal effort and huge profits. Oh, just the thought of it. People can buy all their music all over again, but this time - this time it will be better. This time, it will be MQA certified. Here's Neil Young's thoughts on MQA Masters through Tidal - says it all. https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Tidal-Misleading-Listeners botrytis 1 Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, StephenJK said: I think that would be obvious - the major music labels. The thought of people having to buy their music collections all over again has more than one executive staring out the window and thinking fondly of the days past - the days of minimal effort and huge profits. Oh, just the thought of it. People can buy all their music all over again, but this time - this time it will be better. This time, it will be MQA certified. Here's Neil Young's thoughts on MQA Masters through Tidal - says it all. https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Tidal-Misleading-Listeners I don't think anyone is counting on re-purchases of music. The big thing is control and the fact that the labels have stock in MQA. When they force everyone to use MQA, they'll make money on the MQA tax collected from every manufacturer of hardware and developer of software that want's to "decode" the stream. Exocer, UkPhil, sphinxsix and 2 others 5 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
StephenJK Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I don't think anyone is counting on re-purchases of music. The big thing is control and the fact that the labels have stock in MQA. When they force everyone to use MQA, they'll make money on the MQA tax collected from every manufacturer of hardware and developer of software that want's to "decode" the stream. Chris, I'll defer to your knowledge of the industry on that point. I think we're both agreed that the music labels would like maximum return for minimal effort. Owning the music certainly gives them the advantage. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, StephenJK said: Chris, I'll defer to your knowledge of the industry on that point. I think we're both agreed that the music labels would like maximum return for minimal effort. Owning the music certainly gives them the advantage. Yeah, they hold all the cards and make the rules up as they go along. They even dictate to the streaming services what will happen. Ive always said, you can’t invent kind of Blue-ish if you don’t want Kind of Blue in MQA. If the label wants us to only have it in MQA, Bob Stuart, Ken Forsythe, and Mike Jbara made it all possible. UkPhil and botrytis 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Currawong Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Quote Here’s how it will work in the future: we assemble blocks of programming as 24/96 FLAC files, from uncompressed (non-MQA) masters of the highest available bitrate — 24/192, 24/96, 24/48, or 16/44.1 — that are then encoded, with folding, into a 16/44.1 MQA bitstream. They will also be available as uncompressed 24/96. I'll be happy if they stream 24/96. I understand that it's a difficult situation for Bill to keep RP running, given that he relies on donations. That means getting RP more well known. Doing so through a manufacturer makes sense. Sadly that has to involve MQA. Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Tidal offers a Pure PCM 16 bit 44.1 kHz version. Qobuz offers a Pure PCM 24 bit 44.1 kHz version. HDtracks also offers a Pure PCM 24 bit 44.1 kHz version. If I had to guess, the master is 24/44.1 and is what Qobuz offers. Either the conversion from 24 to 16 bit made it sound "fuller, sweeter and more expansive" or something else is up. Oh, something else is up without a doubt. What is up is a clueless, lazy "journalist" trying to bamboozle his readers. The only thing that is "fuller and sweeter" is his imagination. They have a narrative and they will push regardless of the fact that he compared 24 bit to 16 bit, but better yet, the vinyl cut from digital files rules!!! yahooboy 1 Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Currawong said: I'll be happy if they stream 24/96. I understand that it's a difficult situation for Bill to keep RP running, given that he relies on donations. That means getting RP more well known. Doing so through a manufacturer makes sense. Sadly that has to involve MQA. I’m interviewing Bill next week for the podcast. Currawong, Cebolla and MikeyFresh 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Currawong said: I'll be happy if they stream 24/96. I understand that it's a difficult situation for Bill to keep RP running, given that he relies on donations. That means getting RP more well known. Doing so through a manufacturer makes sense. Sadly that has to involve MQA. Where does the blurb you quoted come from? Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Popular Post R1200CL Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/topic/25835 MQA will be available only via BluOS-enabled hardware like your Bluesound Node. The BluOS update for that is rolling out on April 7. The Computer Audiophile and Cebolla 2 Link to comment
Cebolla Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Currawong said: I'll be happy if they stream 24/96. I understand that it's a difficult situation for Bill to keep RP running, given that he relies on donations. That means getting RP more well known. Doing so through a manufacturer makes sense. Sadly that has to involve MQA. From the other parts of Bill's post you quoted it's also clear that RP are not sourcing the MQA stream from MQA material and are instead using an MQA encoder to produce the MQA stream from scratch: Quote No. We’re not using any MQA masters. Here’s how it works currently: we assemble blocks of programming as 16/44.1 FLAC files. Those are then encoded into MQA. The folding/unfolding is something that happens when MQA encodes higher resolution input files into 16/44.1 output files. That whole part of their encoding isn’t utilized by our MQA stream at this time. Here’s how it will work in the future: we assemble blocks of programming as 24/96 FLAC files, from uncompressed (non-MQA) masters of the highest available bitrate — 24/192, 24/96, 24/48, or 16/44.1 — that are then encoded, with folding, into a 16/44.1 MQA bitstream. They will also be available as uncompressed 24/96. Interestingly, it appears that it's going to be an MQA-CD 16bit/44.1kHz only stream, even when produced from the planned 24bit/96kHz hi-res source. We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
Cebolla Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Cebolla said: Interestingly, it appears that it's going to be an MQA-CD 16bit/44.1kHz only stream, even when produced from the planned 24bit/96kHz hi-res source. Bill's corrected that to a 24/48 hi-res MQA stream produced from the 24/96 hi-res source, in response to the query. We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
Popular Post JoeWhip Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 Gee, is anybody going to run out and get those new MQA CDs now offered for the low, low sum of $40.00 from Blue Coast records? lucretius, The Computer Audiophile and MikeyFresh 3 Link to comment
Daccord Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeWhip said: Gee, is anybody going to run out and get those new MQA CDs now offered for the low, low sum of $40.00 from Blue Coast records? MQD, not MQA CD: Master Quality Disc (MQD) 24k Gold Redbook CD EDIT: Apologies to JoeWhip after reading Chris' post below. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 https://bluecoastmusic.com/cookies-corner/82-we-now-have-27-albums-in-mqa-what-is-that-format#.YGdIXS1h3DU Daccord 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 At least she didn't claim it sounds better than DSD and other hi-res formats. MikeyFresh and The Computer Audiophile 2 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, firedog said: At least she didn't claim it sounds better than DSD and other hi-res formats. Yeah, and she still offers all the other formats. More options are good. If people like MQA, they can have at it. As long as Pure PCM doesn't go away. lucretius 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 My bad on the MQD CD, I blame my cataract and my Covid delayed eye glass prescription delay. The MQA downloads, now that is another matter. Compared to tge DSD128 and 256 files at $40 and $50 the $30 for MQA is a bargain. Then again, maybe not. 😀 Link to comment
botrytis Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: My bad on the MQD CD, I blame my cataract and my Covid delayed eye glass prescription delay. The MQA downloads, now that is another matter. Compared to tge DSD128 and 256 files at $40 and $50 the $30 for MQA is a bargain. Then again, maybe not. 😀 MikeyFresh 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
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