KeenObserver Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 "You are hearing the "Master" without loss from studio to you". Hmh. Is MQA not a lossy process? MikeyFresh 1 Boycott Warner Link to post Share on other sites
lucretius Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, PeterSt said: No, that is not so. Half of HD-tracks is fake/upsampled HiRes, while MQA 24/96 (24/88) after unfold is HiRes (not so) all right. Should there be a /s sarcasm tag in that post? Link to post Share on other sites
MikeyFresh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: That’s quite the narrative, without regard for facts. That's a very polite and courteous way of calling bullshit there Chris, you've taken the high road. 21 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: In my experience, companies with great products want all the press they can get. Companies with something to hide, want to pick and choose which outlets they talk to. Without question this is the way it works, and so this speaks volumes about MQA on TIDAL. Boycott TIDAL Boycott Warner Music Group Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post MikeyFresh Posted November 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: 24/376? Huh? Yes but only with an MQA hardware decoder performing exactly 3.5 unfolds, it's the only way to get that special proprietary sample rate, and an authentic rendering of what the artist intended. There's additional de-blurring as well, such that you are hearing it as if in the vacuum of space, with no atmosphere to smear the time domain at all. There's more to MQA than you think... COMING SOON: a 4th Unfold reveals an alternate universe, and it's Lossless! The Computer Audiophile and lucretius 2 Boycott TIDAL Boycott Warner Music Group Link to post Share on other sites
KeenObserver Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Does Bob Stuart getting the Prince Phillip Award elevate Bob Stuart or does it debase the The Royal Academy of Engineering? Boycott Warner Link to post Share on other sites
KeenObserver Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 MQA has built in authentication? How, exactly do you build in authentication? Boycott Warner Link to post Share on other sites
KeenObserver Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Guess I'm going to have to dig out my hipboots. Boycott Warner Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, KeenObserver said: MQA has built in authentication? How, exactly do you build in authentication? This should make everyone feel good. Not. Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
PeterSt Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeyFresh said: COMING SOON: a 4th Unfold reveals an alternate universe, and it's Lossless! loser MikeyFresh 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2 Ethernet^2 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWhip Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Hey, I can already download DXD and DSD256 files already and can stream high res too. I must have been hallucinating. MikeyFresh 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PeterSt Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, JoeWhip said: I must have been hallucinating. Tell us what you smoke and we will help you. Q1 : Do you have a blurry vision ? sphinxsix 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2 Ethernet^2 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to post Share on other sites
DuckToller Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Guyz, is there already a thread in our forums (or others) that lists MQA certified devices which have shown problems decoding non-MQA streams ? - If yes, pls guide me there ... - If no , pls let me know if you have experienced such performance problems or seen others indicating that? Pls provide links ... - Provided there are some reliable sources ... I may then start & curate such a thread in the DAC forum cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites
UkPhil Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeyFresh said: Yes but only with an MQA hardware decoder performing exactly 3.5 unfolds, it's the only way to get that special proprietary sample rate, and an authentic rendering of what the artist intended. There's additional de-blurring as well, such that you are hearing it as if in the vacuum of space, with no atmosphere to smear the time domain at all. There's more to MQA than you think... COMING SOON: a 4th Unfold reveals an alternate universe, and it's Lossless! It’s beginning to sound like a chapter from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that was fiction too 🤪 sphinxsix 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lucretius Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeyFresh said: Yes but only with an MQA hardware decoder performing exactly 3.5 unfolds, it's the only way to get that special proprietary sample rate, and an authentic rendering of what the artist intended. There's additional de-blurring as well, such that you are hearing it as if in the vacuum of space, with no atmosphere to smear the time domain at all. There's more to MQA than you think... COMING SOON: a 4th Unfold reveals an alternate universe, and it's Lossless! Just wait until we have 4K resolution sound files. MikeyFresh 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post botrytis Posted November 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, lucretius said: Just wait until we have 4K resolution sound files. They will skip 4k and go to 8K instead.... lucretius, sphinxsix and MikeyFresh 1 1 1 Current: JRiver 26 on Win 10 PC (AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with 32 GB RAM) or Daphile on an AMD A10-5700 with 8 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Amplification - Bow Technologies Wazoo Integrated (great amp - silly name) Speakers: Wharfedale Linton Heritage - KEF LS50 - ELAC unifi UB5's - Linn Tukans - others...... Cables: Tara Labs RCS Reference speaker cables and DiMarzio Interconnects Link to post Share on other sites
sphinxsix Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, botrytis said: They will skip 4k and go to 8K instead.... Lossy 8k to keep the lossless masters for themselves! Like I said I'm waiting for MQA vinyl (lossy of course!) and video. We live in really interesting times.. What’s true of all the evils in the world is true of plague as well. It helps men to rise above themselves. ― Albert Camus, The Plague. Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: I'm waiting for MQA vinyl We already have it :~( https://www.stereophile.com/content/recording-april-2018-fairytales-original-master-edition-mqa sphinxsix 1 Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
sphinxsix Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: We already have it :~( https://www.stereophile.com/content/recording-april-2018-fairytales-original-master-edition-mqa Does it sound good without MQA approved cartridge.? Is it profitable enough without it.? One of the comments to the article (2018): "Remastering a classic is awesome but ... Submitted by leedom on March 21, 2018 - 10:31am Now we have no way to avoid MQA? I think I'll sit this one out." And one more thing: "A point missed in the article Submitted by tronds on March 23, 2018 - 3:15am The new reissue available in Norway is actually a SACD, with both the DSD layer and a MQA-encoded CD layer. I would find it strange if the international release would differ from this disc layout." Haven't heard about this format before. MQA is everywhere.. Almost no place to hide.. What’s true of all the evils in the world is true of plague as well. It helps men to rise above themselves. ― Albert Camus, The Plague. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWhip Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, PeterSt said: Tell us what you smoke and we will help you. Q1 : Do you have a blurry vision ? Don’t smoke or drink, but do need glasses! Link to post Share on other sites
bogi Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Drink, but don't stream from Tidal. Don't buy MQA capable hardware. Backup your lossless / hires collection. Download new true lossless and hires content. MikeyFresh 1 Stream to HQPlayer Desktop from foobar2000SendToHQP v1.04 - Manage HQPlayer playlist from Foobar2000 ISO2DSF v1.2.2 - SACD ISO to DFF to DSF via context menu DFF2DSF v1.1.0 - context menu interface to dff2dsf from Miska (Signalyst) i7 6820HQ Win10 Foobar2000/HQPlayer ► Atom Z8350 Win10 NAA ► Gustard DAC-X10 ► SPX2010TA ►HiFiMan HE-500 Link to post Share on other sites
MarkusBarkus Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 c. 2018 in Japan: "Hi-Res CD is a high-fidelity CD which combines MQA technology and UHQCD format (currently available exclusively in Japan only) together for the first time in the world. With this combination, Hi-Res CD realizes the high-resolution and compatibility at the same time." https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/feature/Worlds_First_HiRes_CD_by_Universal_Music_Japan Link to post Share on other sites
fas42 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Of course, MQA-CD is just another HDCD, in the sense of what's being done technically - I don't recall the music world collapsing back in 1995, because this new, 'enhanced' CD came onto the scene ... Frank http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/ Over and out. . Link to post Share on other sites
UkPhil Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Found this article from Oct 2020 in Australia, Bob intimates what’s just happened and the future https://www.stereo.net.au/features/inside-track-bob-stuart-mqa “let’s make a standard” Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, fas42 said: Of course, MQA-CD is just another HDCD, in the sense of what's being done technically - I don't recall the music world collapsing back in 1995, because this new, 'enhanced' CD came onto the scene ... Not even close. HDCD didn’t remove 3 bits. MikeyFresh 1 Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post botrytis Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 HDCD encodes the equivalent of 20 bits worth of data in a 16-bit digital audio signal by using custom dithering, audio filters, and some reversible amplitude and gain encoding: Peak Extend, which is a reversible soft limiter; and Low Level Range Extend, which is a reversible gain on low-level signals. There is thus a benefit at the expense of a very minor increase in noise. The claim that the encoding process is compatible with ordinary CD players (without audible distortion) is disputed: not being able to decode the peak soft limiting, a normal CD player will output distorted peaks. From WIKI - I guess Frank doesn't google well :D MikeyFresh and The Computer Audiophile 2 Current: JRiver 26 on Win 10 PC (AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with 32 GB RAM) or Daphile on an AMD A10-5700 with 8 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Amplification - Bow Technologies Wazoo Integrated (great amp - silly name) Speakers: Wharfedale Linton Heritage - KEF LS50 - ELAC unifi UB5's - Linn Tukans - others...... Cables: Tara Labs RCS Reference speaker cables and DiMarzio Interconnects Link to post Share on other sites
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