Tintinabulum Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mayfair said: are only 11 in the box. or 13 depending on your viewpoint. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted November 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mayfair said: Yep, kind of like paying for a dozen eggs at the grocery store and discovering that there are only 11 in the box. 13 minutes ago, Allan F said: More like only 10. And, you're being told it's a baker's dozen of 13 of the best eggs you've ever tasted. Allan F and sandyk 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Tintinabulum Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: you're being told it's a baker's dozen of 13 of the best eggs you've ever tasted And as it happens, they are right! Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: And, you're being told it's a baker's dozen of 13 of the best eggs you've ever tasted. But there is fungus on them.. (maybe also in them) It's been genetically modified by some great audio master minds to be the most perfect fungus you've ever seen or tasted.. It's much better than the old fungus codenamed mp3 and it even emits blue light in the dark so that you knew you have to do with the best fungus ever.. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
UkPhil Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 So in less than a week we have had : 1, MQA batch conversion of 1000’s of albums loaded into Tidal via Warner’s which consists of 44.1khz files 2, Some replacing existing true lossless CD files this is without any warning to users . 3, Users playlists and albums from Tidal on third party software applications eg Roon messed around with. 4, The possibility of future supplied FLAC containers to other sites could be holding the same file Digigeddon has been rebooted, MP3 Mk2 has not gone away, let’s hope it the last chance attempt and it doesn’t get any further than the boundary walls of Tidal MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
FredericV Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I'm unable to stream Bowie's Space Oddity from Tidal through Roon in any other than MQA. All versions from 16/44.1 through the fake 24/192 are all MQA. I have the highest level set to HiFI, not MQA in the Roon settings for Tidal as well. It works this way whether I stream to an MQA enabled device or not. MQA bit depth oddity .... First let's set a baseline: To confirm that LMS 8 latest nightly build + squeezelite is passing bitperfect over USB towards the Mytek from my server, I play this 2L.no file: 2L-050_01_stereo_DXD_WAV.mqa.flac I use the Mytek as a lab tool, not the DAC I listen to, but the indicators are nice to see some info. When I have the MQA decoder enabled on the Mytek, I see the 24/44.1 distribution file with max 17/88.2 worth of music content being upsampled by MQA to 24/352.8, and this fake resolution is being shown as expected: When I disable MQA in the Mytek menu, we see the actual distribution file spec: When I stream MQA content from Tidal, it also shows the MQA dot, which can be either green or blue. BT's IMA album in MQA, which I also happen to own in redbook on a physical CD, has a green dot: Now when I play Space Oddity from Tidal which is marked HiRes, it indicates a 24/44.1 file on the Mytek when you set the volume in LMS to let's say 90%, so because the volume applied. So I was first believing LMS pulls a 24/44.1 MQA file from Tidal - but I was probably wrong. With volume applied, which should prevent the MQA instructions being in the correct bit: no MQA dot. Without volume applied, still no MQA dot: The same happens with regular 16/44.1 redbook. To explain this technically, here is what happens: USB receiver chipsets such as in the Mytek and many other USB DAC's usually accept 32 bit samples in a format named S32_LE, even though this is not a 32 bit dac - but it just accepts this format, and marketing names this a 32 bit DAC. The Mytek is smart enough to figure out the actual bit depth. When playing a local 16/44.1 file ripped from a redbook CD using squeezelite, it will actually play the 16 bits as 32 bit samples, with half the bits blanked: # cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params access: MMAP_INTERLEAVED format: S32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 44100 (44100/1) period_size: 441 buffer_size: 1764 Now as soon as we are applying volume control in squeezelite via LMS, it will use the 16 extra available bits as volume control. So suddenly the Mytek sees non-blanked bits, and changes it's display accordingly to 24 bit. When you decrease the volume in LMS to almost the lowest setting, the mytek will even claim it's 29 bit .... So in Logitech Media Server 8 + Tidal via the mysqueezebox.com, it seems we are not getting MQA for this particular album, but we get MQA for other albums including the BT IMA example/ I would need to intercept the physical file which LMS pulls over HTTPS from Tidal to confirm what is in the file, but I have reasons to believe that I am not getting the MQA file from LMS - or the Mytek is broken for some 16 bit MQA files. This is very odd Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
FredericV Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Update: I did add the first Space Oddity track to my LMS favorites, which is marked Hi Res in the search results of the LMS Tidal plugin, and has the following wimp url: URL:wimp://68735594.flac I managed to set the LMS Tidal plugin to debug mode, which gave the exact HTTPS URL towards the flac file, when playing it: [20-11-18 22:44:26.2239] Slim::Plugin::WiMP::ProtocolHandler::new (74) Remote streaming TIDAL track: https://sp-pr-fa.audio.tidal.com/mediatracks/CAEaKRInY2YzNTVkYTJhMWJjZDE2MTcwZTczOTYxNmFkZDg4MDlfNjEubXA0/0.flac?token=CENSORED I removed the token by CENSORED, not to anger Tidal by posting tokens. These tokens are not one time tokens, they can be reused with a wget. Now when playing with metaflac --list, I do not see any MQA encoder tags on the file ... 2L-125_stereo-352k-24b_04.mqa.flac would have these tags: METADATA block #0 type: 0 (STREAMINFO) is last: false length: 34 minimum blocksize: 4096 samples maximum blocksize: 4096 samples minimum framesize: 6392 bytes maximum framesize: 19217 bytes sample_rate: 44100 Hz channels: 2 bits-per-sample: 24 total samples: 4311216 MD5 signature: 1f280edba56b9f48da3cc7fc43a762bf METADATA block #1 type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT) is last: false length: 1328 vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917 comments: 25 comment[0]: ALBUM=REFLECTIONS comment[1]: ALBUMARTIST=TrondheimSolistene comment[2]: ARTIST=TrondheimSolistene comment[3]: BARCODE=7041888521525 comment[4]: CATALOGNUMBER=2L-125 comment[5]: COMPOSER=Benjamin Britten comment[6]: DATE=2016 comment[7]: DISCNUMBER=1 comment[8]: ENCODEDBY=Merging Technologies Album Publishing comment[9]: ENCODER=MQAEncode v1.1, 2.1.0+0 (01450a4), DF77A107-A71F-4e57-A322-872C6D0E99C8, Apr 16 2016 08:37:12 comment[10]: GENRE=Classical comment[11]: ISRC=NOMPP1603040 comment[12]: LABEL=2L comment[13]: ORIGINALSAMPLERATE=352800 comment[14]: TITLE=Frank Bridge Variations: 4. Romance comment[15]: TRACKNUMBER=4 comment[16]: TRACKTOTAL=22 comment[17]: EAN/UPN=7041888521525 comment[18]: CONDUCTOR=Øyvind Gimse comment[19]: COMMENT=www.2L.no comment[20]: DESCRIPTION=Composers reflect their contemporary world and today’s performers mirror our time. The three works on this album all have a high degree of intensity and a strong personal character, as tributes, visions, fantasies, interpretations. As musical reflections they have these qualities in common, but at the same time they are very different works composed by three distinct musical personalities. Passion. Perfection. Raw intensity. With these fundamentals, the chamber orchestra TrondheimSolistene is carving out its own musical images in immersive audio. comment[21]: ENGINEER=Morten Lindberg comment[22]: PRODUCER=Morten Lindberg comment[23]: RECORDINGDATE=June and August 2015, Selbu Church, Norway comment[24]: WEBSITE=www.2L.no The space oddity file which I renamed to space.flac, is just 16/44.1: # file space.flac space.flac: FLAC audio bitstream data, 16 bit, stereo, 44.1 kHz, 14025156 samples and there are no MQA tags in the metadata: METADATA block #0 type: 0 (STREAMINFO) is last: false length: 34 minimum blocksize: 4096 samples maximum blocksize: 4096 samples minimum framesize: 324 bytes maximum framesize: 12947 bytes sample_rate: 44100 Hz channels: 2 bits-per-sample: 16 total samples: 14025156 MD5 signature: a11b8d3b0f90795dfc0fb6b445d8bf7c METADATA block #1 type: 3 (SEEKTABLE) is last: true length: 576 seek points: 32 point 0: sample_number=0, stream_offset=0, frame_samples=4096 point 1: sample_number=442368, stream_offset=659528, frame_samples=4096 point 2: sample_number=884736, stream_offset=1413363, frame_samples=4096 point 3: sample_number=1327104, stream_offset=2280046, frame_samples=4096 point 4: sample_number=1769472, stream_offset=3263244, frame_samples=4096 point 5: sample_number=2211840, stream_offset=4251427, frame_samples=4096 point 6: sample_number=2654208, stream_offset=5258889, frame_samples=4096 point 7: sample_number=3096576, stream_offset=6267173, frame_samples=4096 point 8: sample_number=3538944, stream_offset=7263149, frame_samples=4096 point 9: sample_number=3981312, stream_offset=8410359, frame_samples=4096 point 10: sample_number=4423680, stream_offset=9541287, frame_samples=4096 point 11: sample_number=4866048, stream_offset=10676135, frame_samples=4096 point 12: sample_number=5308416, stream_offset=11809304, frame_samples=4096 point 13: sample_number=5750784, stream_offset=12942652, frame_samples=4096 point 14: sample_number=6193152, stream_offset=14060283, frame_samples=4096 point 15: sample_number=6635520, stream_offset=15201642, frame_samples=4096 point 16: sample_number=7077888, stream_offset=16273076, frame_samples=4096 point 17: sample_number=7520256, stream_offset=17421150, frame_samples=4096 point 18: sample_number=7962624, stream_offset=18592348, frame_samples=4096 point 19: sample_number=8404992, stream_offset=19732288, frame_samples=4096 point 20: sample_number=8847360, stream_offset=20871567, frame_samples=4096 point 21: sample_number=9289728, stream_offset=22036490, frame_samples=4096 point 22: sample_number=9732096, stream_offset=23210415, frame_samples=4096 point 23: sample_number=10174464, stream_offset=24369317, frame_samples=4096 point 24: sample_number=10616832, stream_offset=25540808, frame_samples=4096 point 25: sample_number=11059200, stream_offset=26664388, frame_samples=4096 point 26: sample_number=11501568, stream_offset=27796314, frame_samples=4096 point 27: sample_number=11943936, stream_offset=28976408, frame_samples=4096 point 28: sample_number=12386304, stream_offset=30164692, frame_samples=4096 point 29: sample_number=12828672, stream_offset=31314853, frame_samples=4096 point 30: sample_number=13271040, stream_offset=32340440, frame_samples=4096 point 31: sample_number=13713408, stream_offset=33151082, frame_samples=4096 Now running @mansrmqascan on this file, indicates it's not MQA: # ./mqascan /storage/music/flac/space.flac -> nothing Running mqascan on a known mqa file: # ./mqascan /storage/music/flac/2Lno/Britten\:\ Frank\ Bridge\ Variations\ -\ Romance/*mqa* | head 00000000: MQA signature at bit 8 00000000: [5] datasync magic 36: 0x11319207d stream_pos_flag 1: 0 pad 1: 1 orig_rate 5: 0x03 [352.8 kHz] src_rate 5: 0x00 [44.1 kHz] render_filter 5: 4 unknown_1 2: 0 render_bitdepth 2: 2 [16 bits] So for LMS, we have the opposite situation: search results do indicate Hi Res (aka MQA), but depending on the album you are either getting MQA or no MQA. Which now proves the files have not disappeared from Tidal, but the search results are fuzzy? Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, FredericV said: Update: I did add the first Space Oddity track to my LMS favorites, which is marked Hi Res in the search results of the LMS Tidal plugin, and has the following wimp url: URL:wimp://68735594.flac I managed to set the LMS Tidal plugin to debug mode, which gave the exact HTTPS URL towards the flac file, when playing it: [20-11-18 22:44:26.2239] Slim::Plugin::WiMP::ProtocolHandler::new (74) Remote streaming TIDAL track: https://sp-pr-fa.audio.tidal.com/mediatracks/CAEaKRInY2YzNTVkYTJhMWJjZDE2MTcwZTczOTYxNmFkZDg4MDlfNjEubXA0/0.flac?token=CENSORED I removed the token by CENSORED, not to anger Tidal by posting tokens. These tokens are not one time tokens, they can be reused with a wget. Now when playing with metaflac --list, I do not see any MQA encoder tags on the file ... 2L-125_stereo-352k-24b_04.mqa.flac would have these tags: METADATA block #0 type: 0 (STREAMINFO) is last: false length: 34 minimum blocksize: 4096 samples maximum blocksize: 4096 samples minimum framesize: 6392 bytes maximum framesize: 19217 bytes sample_rate: 44100 Hz channels: 2 bits-per-sample: 24 total samples: 4311216 MD5 signature: 1f280edba56b9f48da3cc7fc43a762bf METADATA block #1 type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT) is last: false length: 1328 vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917 comments: 25 comment[0]: ALBUM=REFLECTIONS comment[1]: ALBUMARTIST=TrondheimSolistene comment[2]: ARTIST=TrondheimSolistene comment[3]: BARCODE=7041888521525 comment[4]: CATALOGNUMBER=2L-125 comment[5]: COMPOSER=Benjamin Britten comment[6]: DATE=2016 comment[7]: DISCNUMBER=1 comment[8]: ENCODEDBY=Merging Technologies Album Publishing comment[9]: ENCODER=MQAEncode v1.1, 2.1.0+0 (01450a4), DF77A107-A71F-4e57-A322-872C6D0E99C8, Apr 16 2016 08:37:12 comment[10]: GENRE=Classical comment[11]: ISRC=NOMPP1603040 comment[12]: LABEL=2L comment[13]: ORIGINALSAMPLERATE=352800 comment[14]: TITLE=Frank Bridge Variations: 4. Romance comment[15]: TRACKNUMBER=4 comment[16]: TRACKTOTAL=22 comment[17]: EAN/UPN=7041888521525 comment[18]: CONDUCTOR=Øyvind Gimse comment[19]: COMMENT=www.2L.no comment[20]: DESCRIPTION=Composers reflect their contemporary world and today’s performers mirror our time. The three works on this album all have a high degree of intensity and a strong personal character, as tributes, visions, fantasies, interpretations. As musical reflections they have these qualities in common, but at the same time they are very different works composed by three distinct musical personalities. Passion. Perfection. Raw intensity. With these fundamentals, the chamber orchestra TrondheimSolistene is carving out its own musical images in immersive audio. comment[21]: ENGINEER=Morten Lindberg comment[22]: PRODUCER=Morten Lindberg comment[23]: RECORDINGDATE=June and August 2015, Selbu Church, Norway comment[24]: WEBSITE=www.2L.no The space oddity file which I renamed to space.flac, is just 16/44.1: # file space.flac space.flac: FLAC audio bitstream data, 16 bit, stereo, 44.1 kHz, 14025156 samples and there are no MQA tags in the metadata: METADATA block #0 type: 0 (STREAMINFO) is last: false length: 34 minimum blocksize: 4096 samples maximum blocksize: 4096 samples minimum framesize: 324 bytes maximum framesize: 12947 bytes sample_rate: 44100 Hz channels: 2 bits-per-sample: 16 total samples: 14025156 MD5 signature: a11b8d3b0f90795dfc0fb6b445d8bf7c METADATA block #1 type: 3 (SEEKTABLE) is last: true length: 576 seek points: 32 point 0: sample_number=0, stream_offset=0, frame_samples=4096 point 1: sample_number=442368, stream_offset=659528, frame_samples=4096 point 2: sample_number=884736, stream_offset=1413363, frame_samples=4096 point 3: sample_number=1327104, stream_offset=2280046, frame_samples=4096 point 4: sample_number=1769472, stream_offset=3263244, frame_samples=4096 point 5: sample_number=2211840, stream_offset=4251427, frame_samples=4096 point 6: sample_number=2654208, stream_offset=5258889, frame_samples=4096 point 7: sample_number=3096576, stream_offset=6267173, frame_samples=4096 point 8: sample_number=3538944, stream_offset=7263149, frame_samples=4096 point 9: sample_number=3981312, stream_offset=8410359, frame_samples=4096 point 10: sample_number=4423680, stream_offset=9541287, frame_samples=4096 point 11: sample_number=4866048, stream_offset=10676135, frame_samples=4096 point 12: sample_number=5308416, stream_offset=11809304, frame_samples=4096 point 13: sample_number=5750784, stream_offset=12942652, frame_samples=4096 point 14: sample_number=6193152, stream_offset=14060283, frame_samples=4096 point 15: sample_number=6635520, stream_offset=15201642, frame_samples=4096 point 16: sample_number=7077888, stream_offset=16273076, frame_samples=4096 point 17: sample_number=7520256, stream_offset=17421150, frame_samples=4096 point 18: sample_number=7962624, stream_offset=18592348, frame_samples=4096 point 19: sample_number=8404992, stream_offset=19732288, frame_samples=4096 point 20: sample_number=8847360, stream_offset=20871567, frame_samples=4096 point 21: sample_number=9289728, stream_offset=22036490, frame_samples=4096 point 22: sample_number=9732096, stream_offset=23210415, frame_samples=4096 point 23: sample_number=10174464, stream_offset=24369317, frame_samples=4096 point 24: sample_number=10616832, stream_offset=25540808, frame_samples=4096 point 25: sample_number=11059200, stream_offset=26664388, frame_samples=4096 point 26: sample_number=11501568, stream_offset=27796314, frame_samples=4096 point 27: sample_number=11943936, stream_offset=28976408, frame_samples=4096 point 28: sample_number=12386304, stream_offset=30164692, frame_samples=4096 point 29: sample_number=12828672, stream_offset=31314853, frame_samples=4096 point 30: sample_number=13271040, stream_offset=32340440, frame_samples=4096 point 31: sample_number=13713408, stream_offset=33151082, frame_samples=4096 Now running @mansrmqascan on this file, indicates it's not MQA: # ./mqascan /storage/music/flac/space.flac -> nothing Running mqascan on a known mqa file: # ./mqascan /storage/music/flac/2Lno/Britten\:\ Frank\ Bridge\ Variations\ -\ Romance/*mqa* | head 00000000: MQA signature at bit 8 00000000: [5] datasync magic 36: 0x11319207d stream_pos_flag 1: 0 pad 1: 1 orig_rate 5: 0x03 [352.8 kHz] src_rate 5: 0x00 [44.1 kHz] render_filter 5: 4 unknown_1 2: 0 render_bitdepth 2: 2 [16 bits] So for LMS, we have the opposite situation: search results do indicate Hi Res (aka MQA), but depending on the album you are either getting MQA or no MQA. Which now proves the files have not disappeared from Tidal, but the search results are fuzzy? Is LMS using the newest Tidal API? If so, you won’t get MQA files unless you pay the piper. LMS isn’t MQA certified. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
FredericV Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Is LMS using the newest Tidal API? If so, you won’t get MQA files unless you pay the piper. LMS isn’t MQA certified. LMS is now using a lot of HTTPS calls for Tidal, and they also have a new auth system. They had to change a lot to comply, and they further reduced access to Tidal via their mysqueezebox.com platform to LMS 8 versions. So all music servers with LMS 7.9.X and older are now blocked. I did some traffic analysis and the endpoints no longer pull the files directly from tidal, where LMS points them to some HTTP URL (which are very easy to intercept), but instead since LMS 8 they connect to LMS via your home LAN and then LMS makes the HTTPS connection to Tidal's CDN. In a way, it's a kind of proxy. While this is more secure and Tidal URL's are much more difficult to intercept on the internet, it won't stop those who really want to look at the code or logs. In my case it was to verify what file was being pulled from Tidal. Long topic about the changes: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112300-Attention-TIDAL-users-changes-ahead! LMS does not show if a file is MQA or not, so while it can passthrough MQA files, it does not know anything about them. I'm not even sure open source packages such as LMS do want to embrace MQA. Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
daverich4 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, hmartin said: Out of ~800 tidal albums in my library ~150 had been converted to Mqa, was a real pain deleting them with Roon user interface. So stupid! Should be pretty straightforward, Focus/Format/MQA/Select All/ Delete Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Does the music consumer get a kiss from Warner? Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
Popular Post KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 Having watched the activities for the past several years, I figured this was the plan. Forcing the music consumer to accept MQA. Warner and MQA quietly went about planning this behind the scenes. Much like plans were made behind the scene during the Botha government. And if this plays out as Warner and MQA plan, the music consumer will need a passbook to listen to music in the future. You will not be able to listen to music without MQA. You will not have a choice. Well played Warner and MQA. You certainly stuck it to the music consumer. UkPhil and John Dyson 2 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 This is a critical moment in music. If this scheme is implemented, you will not have a choice. MQA will control the distribution of music. Independent music producers are being pressured, like in the bad old days. If you want the freedom to choose in the future, this scheme must be rejected. Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I spent hours today looking at the history of the labels. Mergers, acquisitions, buying rights, selling rights, and on, and on. Is Warner Music Group in any way affiliated with Warner Brothers Studios? Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
Popular Post hmartin Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, daverich4 said: Should be pretty straightforward, Focus/Format/MQA/Select All/ Delete Thanks! Didn’t know you could select all. so for the next person, if you ”long hold” on a album you get an extra menu on top where you can pick ”select all”. daverich4, The Computer Audiophile and oneway23 3 Link to comment
UkPhil Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 And the media spin starts Another misleading article with regards to hi res :-( https://www.whathifi.com/news/tidal-expands-and-improves-its-masters-mqa-offering-which-is-now-discounted-by-95?fbclid=IwAR1dBJzNPLKcibRuoJOJYbx-3_WXQwH47o6cByIxuCEW1rlfiafh9kiT5rk Link to comment
Popular Post FredericV Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, UkPhil said: And the media spin starts Another misleading article with regards to hi res :-( https://www.whathifi.com/news/tidal-expands-and-improves-its-masters-mqa-offering-which-is-now-discounted-by-95?fbclid=IwAR1dBJzNPLKcibRuoJOJYbx-3_WXQwH47o6cByIxuCEW1rlfiafh9kiT5rk Quote For the uninitiated, Tidal Masters are hi-res (typically 24-bit/96kHz) tracks available to subscribers of Tidal’s £20/$20-per-month HiFi service. Hi-res streaming comes courtesy of MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) technology, which efficiently captures and stores original studio master recordings as files that are small and convenient enough to stream, without the sonic sacrifices traditionally associated with compressed files. They probably do not understand this plot: If the claim was true, please show me one studio which uses MQA as an archival format, as it would satisfy the claim that MQA "stores original studio master recordings" ... MikeyFresh and botrytis 2 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
botrytis Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 2:38 PM, Tintinabulum said: I pay tax for things I never benefit from every day. Nothing new there. This is like saying I want a bad product so I will pay more for it. Oh, wait we do it every day. Look at the safety regs on large SUV's compared to cars. Large SUV's do not have to follow the same crash tests and safety regs that cars do, hence why companies, like Ford, are just making SUV's - less development money needed and more profit for them because people think larger cars are safer, and that is not true. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post DuckToller Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 Am I the only one who sees a concordant strategy from MQA and the Post Election POTUS campaign on dead voters fraud and other negligence ... Creating a narrative, abandoning science, facts, truth and verity and pushing your claims to find company that can see leverage in supporting you. Audiophiles who believe in you will stop listening and start throwing stones synergistic fuses on the agnostic ... The Computer Audiophile, botrytis, MikeyFresh and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Popular Post UkPhil Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, FredericV said: They probably do not understand this plot: If the claim was true, please show me one studio which uses MQA as an archival format, as it would satisfy the claim that MQA "stores original studio master recordings" ... And we get this reply to a similar question on social media oneway23 and MikeyFresh 1 1 Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, UkPhil said: And the media spin starts Another misleading article with regards to hi res :-( https://www.whathifi.com/news/tidal-expands-and-improves-its-masters-mqa-offering-which-is-now-discounted-by-95?fbclid=IwAR1dBJzNPLKcibRuoJOJYbx-3_WXQwH47o6cByIxuCEW1rlfiafh9kiT5rk Do you think Becky is just an airhead being manipulated or do you think she is just doing what she is told. Is there actually a Becky? UkPhil 1 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Seems like there is a generation or two that is incapable of critical thinking. Whatever is on their computer screen is their belief. We have an operating system that tracks your every move and reports back to the mother ship. Ostensibly so that they can create a better computer experience for you. We have a major search engine that tracks your every move. We have shopping sites and video sites that track your every move so that they can provide buy lists and play lists. And when MQA tells people that it is a better product, there are people that actually believe it. MQA is telling people that their end product is better than the original that is stored in the vault. AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT! The reality is that no one would ever think of archiving their music on MQA. Apparently Warner and MQA believe that they have enough control that they can dictate to the music consumer how they will listen to music. UkPhil 1 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
Popular Post KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, UkPhil said: And we get this reply to a similar question on social media That is just so ridiculous. The Hi Rez Genie has already been let out of the bottle, and they want to try and force it back in by telling you that the original master is inferior. Are there people that actually believe Peter Veth? MikeyFresh and UkPhil 2 Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Is Mr. Veth some sort of audio luminary or just a paid shill? Link to comment
KeenObserver Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: Is Mr. Veth some sort of audio luminary or just a paid shill? If you were an audio luminary would you destroy your credibility with such a ridiculous statement? Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
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