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Me too, actually.

 

On another topic, I belong to Audiokarma as well, but I haven't been on the site in a while, since they don't appreciate me posting actual facts about MQA. I was told I was a troll. Most there are blindly following Tidal into the sunset.


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1 hour ago, KeenObserver said:

I find it incredible how so many people will be blindly led today.  They do whatever their computer tells them.

I guess Bob Stuart makes for an attractive "Daddy" figure for them to follow.

 

That is the position of most consumers (of digital anything) - they have to rely on an authority (i.e. the specialist) for knowledge about the reliability/truthfulness of fill_in_the_blank product/software/service.

 

In the audiophile niche, besides a handful of (mostly consumer driven) forums such as this one, where are the reliable authorities and specialists?  Certainly not writing for the traditional "Audio press" such as Stereophile and TAS.

 

Chrislayeruk, Barrowboy (who posts here as Tintinabulum), and the like are astroturfers fur sur.  Roon has a real astroturfer problem, but then they have a larger MQA problem in that a combination of circumstances (past working associations, being in the UK, etc. ) led them down the road of compromising with the MQA fraud in the first place.  They of course are not the only ones...


Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math!

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2 minutes ago, Fast and Bulbous said:

 

Respected figure...

 

Bill Clinton was and is a respected figure...but he still had sex with that young women.


Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math!

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Just now, Fast and Bulbous said:

Do you know something of Peter Craven to justify such a comparison? Would be good to know if you do.

 

 

Sure, and so do you.  He is a principal architect and shareholder behind the fraud of MQA.  Just like Bill Clinton, he is a Big Fat Liar™

 

Your going to have to find another audio authority to revere...


Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math!

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"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

-- Bruce Rozenblit of Transcendent Sound

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2 hours ago, FredericV said:


Interesting, this is one of the guys behind the MQA patent:


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Sticking to facts he has sold a few shares lately.

 

we could discuss his compiler work but I can’t find anybody in North America who cares.

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can someone Photoshop the color MQA symbol into the Eye of Sauron for me?


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

-- Bruce Rozenblit of Transcendent Sound

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The need to suck up to authority is endemic - I despair at times when I read the nonsense sprouted by "authorative figures", when they proclaim that audio reproduction is inherently limited by various simplistic factors, which they consider the human mind is not capable of taking into account. Which is why much audio playback is so mediocre - if the standards aspired to are so low, how can it be otherwise out there in the real world - if you believe Model T travel is as good as it gets, then what are the chances of moving beyond that?


Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Ahhh, Mankind ... Porsche intellect, Trabant emotions ...

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5 hours ago, botrytis said:

Interesting, only 22 shareholders in MQA and 14,414 shares in total. Merlin Assets, Sony Music, Universal Music (not much left after that fire in their vault), Warner Music, Reinet S.A.R.L. and, Muse Holdings S.A.R.L. are the only companies. The rest are individuals....

 

 

Note, the labels were GIVEN their shares as compensation for "services rendered"...still have not figured that one out yet.

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2 hours ago, John Dyson said:

I truly don't believe that there are fully reliable authorities in almost any field.  All too often, there are financial interests, personal interests or opinon/feeling that overrides rationality (lock-in to erroneous technical opinion.)  Sometimes, even if a person knows the actual facts, they end up demuring because of overly strong dissenting opinions -- often because of the error sources that I mentioned above.  Even when I truly, 100% know a technical answer, I will sometimes demure (not in the right mood to deal with controversy.)

 

Even in areas where I am truly an expert, I make errors, from time to time have erroneous opinions (because not having a current interest/forgetting details,etc.)  Lock-in is a problem that all technical people tend to have.

 

Even technical people can be led astray by other technical people.

 

I think that the biggest problems are financial interest or personal bias coming from misguided technical reasoning.  Here is an example:  I worked with a guy who was a pioneer in a certain field, he was far senior to me -- but he kept advocating using a really error prone source for an electrical delay (synthesizing the RAS/CAS delay for first generation dynamic ram) -- he actually advocated using a series resistor, depending on input capacitance and threshold for CMOS gate -- this RAS/CAS delay had a rather precise timing requirement.  I tried to come up with a reliable digital timing method (TTL wasn't fast enough), finally I 'gave up' and advocated using an analog  delay line (we couldn't clock our circuits fast enough for proper digital resolution) -- but he advocated the R/C & threshold delay scheme, using a pot for a production tweak -- implementing the RAS/CAS delay that needed to work over the entire industrial temperature range.   That expert (truly, he was a technical expert) lost his contract job because of that conceptual lock-in error.  Using a tweak for the RAS/CAS timing over industrial temperature range (CMOS thresholds/characteristics/etc) - it would have been a production/maintenance/support disaster.  (Early 1970s')

 

I know that my little anecdote wasn't all that 'short', but I am trying to explain that it is very tricky to find someone who really does give an accurate technical opinion all of the time.  Best that one can do -- listen to more than just a few experts with differing agendas, and then use common sense.  No-one is immune to both sides of the problem.

 

I do believe that 'technical experts' should try to strive for more integrity* (myself included), and also the user base shouldn't 'buy-in' so very quickly to snake-oil...  How does one detect 'snake-oil?'  I have no good answer for that.  I wish I did.

* When I speak of integrity, I don't just mean 'honesty', but I mean the entire package that includes knowing-ones-own-limits.

 

John

 

The more you know, the more you know you don’t know. I wish it worked the same for those who know less. 


Founder of Audiophile Style and Superphonica

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3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The more you know, the more you know you don’t know. I wish it worked the same for those who know less. 

 

There real problems are with those that think they know something, but really have no understanding of what they are talking about. Nor the will to study hard enough to learn. 

Those are the people that poison our hobby, especially those who "get on a mission to save the poor audiophools..."


Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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13 hours ago, crenca said:

 

Sure, and so do you.  He is a principal architect and shareholder behind the fraud of MQA.  Just like Bill Clinton, he is a Big Fat Liar™

 

Your going to have to find another audio authority to revere...

Oh, sorry. I see. You know me. Errr.... no you don't.  No ad hominen attacks based on false and untested assumptions please. 

 

As for big fat liar, so you mean he tells big fat lies? Please enlighten us on what they are, specifically for Craven.

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14 hours ago, crenca said:

 

That is the position of most consumers (of digital anything) - they have to rely on an authority (i.e. the specialist) for knowledge about the reliability/truthfulness of fill_in_the_blank product/software/service.

 

Sort of like this forum where as soon as @mansr sez or @Archimago sez there can be no other truth...

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