MQA is Vaporware

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

Just now, Tintinabulum said:

Isn't MQA is a seperate company? Meridian still make hifi- have a listen...

They spun it off after the introduction. Stuart developed MQA with Craven. Why are you acting like AG Fatso Barr?🤡

[Tintinabulum]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

MQA was launched by Meridian, after first trying to get Pono to accept it, then spun out of Merdian into a new entity. Same ownership I believe. 

So a separate company then. Have you listened to any of their kit?

 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

MQA was launched by Meridian, after first trying to get Pono to accept it, then spun out of Merdian into a new entity. Same ownership I believe. 

Maybe after the 3rd time he will understand it...

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

Just now, Tintinabulum said:

So a separate company then. Have you listened to any of their kit?

 

Yes, many times...

[Tintinabulum]

4 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

They spun it off after the introduction. Stuart developed MQA with Craven. Why are you acting like AG Fatso Barr?🤡

I'm from the UK, Fatso Barr doesn't mean anything to me. Do you listen to hifi by the way?

 

[Tintinabulum]

1 minute ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Yes, many times...

And is it any good? This is a hifi forum after all. Digital actives, getting very trendy, Dutch and Dutch etc. Meridian brought out  a pair in 1989, sound pretty good.

[mansr]

13 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Minus the cocaine.

Are you sure? It would explain a lot.

[Tintinabulum]

4 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Maybe after the 3rd time he will understand it...

I watched the whole thing with interest thanks. I understand it. And I'm not ignorant.

[Tintinabulum]

Just now, mansr said:

Are you sure? It would explain a lot.

Brilliant (ironic).

[The Computer Audiophile]

8 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

So a separate company then. Have you listened to any of their kit?

 

I've listened to tons of Meridian components and speakers over the years. Cool concept.

[kumakuma]

15 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

Yes. Do you understand they make hifi?

 

 

I'm still trying to fathom why this or the motivation of others in this thread makes their tweet any less ironic.

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

1 hour ago, Tintinabulum said:

And is it any good? This is a hifi forum after all. Digital actives, getting very trendy, Dutch and Dutch etc. Meridian brought out  a pair in 1989, sound pretty good.

Yes, the Meridian gear I have listened to has always sounded "good" but not any better than stuff priced much lower..

 

The reason Meridian is a failed business (kept afloat by his in laws pumping wads of cash into it) is because Bob Stuart has lived in a bubble and is in no way a visionary. 

 

He invested in DVD-A when it was clear that internet speed and storage were becoming faster and cheaper and 24 bit downloads were around the corner. He invested in Sooloos when computer set ups costing 1/10 as much out performed it just a very short time later. He was making $25,000 CD players when it was clear they were a dying breed and stand alone DACs were what the market was demanding.  Instead of his finger on the pulse he has literally had his finger in an electric socket. 

 

The gear by the late 90's was clearly being designed, marketed, and sold to wealthy pseudophiles who wanted LifeStyle products, like the guy I met at a dealer ten years ago who bought a $10,000 Sooloos system and owned 100 CDs. 

 

I could go on. 

[Ralf11]

So, is MQA the cocaine of audio?

[Rt66indierock]

3 hours ago, Tintinabulum said:

Wow, massive leap, could be anything else could it? Like he's no good at making money (good at hifi though) The MQA hate just goes on....

 

Meridian has produced excellent hifi, I've listened to a lot over the last last 30/40  years, excellent gear, still sounding excellent as well. I have gear I bought in 89, still sounding ... goes what ... excellent.

 

Not a massive leap an argument Bob Stuart isn't the right person to listen to in this millennium about digital formats. 

 

You keep saying Meridian has produced excellent hifi, but why has turnover declined in United States 50% since 2001. 

[Rt66indierock]

3 hours ago, Tintinabulum said:

Is that relevant? There could be dozens of reasons why Meridian don't make money, people not liking Bob probably isn't one.

 

Have you met Bob and actually talked with him about audio?

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

13 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Not a massive leap an argument Bob Stuart isn't the right person to listen to in this millennium about digital formats. 

 

You keep saying Meridian has produced excellent hifi, but why has turnover declined in United States 50% since 2001. 

The joke around NY Metro dealers concerning Meridian is that they were the world's most expensive paperweights. They literally could not give it away.

[Ralf11]

Meridian certainly had some great ideas and was an early mover on digital.

 

... I keep wondering if someone won't write a similar stmt. to the above on a car forum about Tesla in a couple of decades...

[crenca]

50 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

Meridian certainly had some great ideas and was an early mover on digital.

 

... I keep wondering if someone won't write a similar stmt. to the above on a car forum about Tesla in a couple of decades...

 

As a car company, try a couple of years, give or take.  That said, Tesla and Musk are as much investor phenomena and hype as much as anything - not that this is merely ephemeral, just look at their valuation.   Tesla will be a widget company, or perhaps a finance company well before "decades" is up.

 

Barrowboy, why don't you detail for us your relationship with Meridian?

[BrokeLinuxPhile]

4 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

So, is MQA the cocaine of audio?

 

More like Krokodil.

[Tintinabulum]

8 hours ago, kumakuma said:

their tweet any less ironic.

You need to understand irony and relate it to the comment (not the straw man comments mad subsequently). Defensive lot.

 

[Tintinabulum]

7 hours ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

I could go on. 

You do... As I said , there may be dozens of reasons Meridian don't make money, most of which are irrelevant to the conversation (such as it is). As a small aside, the assumption is made that all businesses are there to make money, that's not always the case.

[Tintinabulum]

4 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

Not a massive leap an argument Bob Stuart isn't the right person to listen to in this millennium about digital formats. 

Not the subject of the conversation.

4 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

You keep saying Meridian has produced excellent hifi, but why has turnover declined in United States 50% since 2001

Dozens of reasons possible, being overpriced, poor marketing, where to start? Certainly not by assuming the product is crap, it's excellent.

[Tintinabulum]

4 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

Have you met Bob and actually talked with him about audio?

Yes, have you?

[Tintinabulum]

4 hours ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

The joke around NY Metro dealers concerning Meridian is that they were the world's most expensive paperweights. They literally could not give it away.

OK, look up the word literally.

Nearly the most ridiculous comment made but I presume it's just bait...

Bring back CA.

[Tintinabulum]

2 hours ago, crenca said:

Barrowboy, why don't you detail for us your relationship with Meridian?

Longstanding customer? My comments are more about the English language though and people attacking a company for the wrong reasons (plenty of right ones). But the bile on display here... Bring back CA...