MQA is Vaporware

[Rt66indierock]

1 hour ago, Tintinabulum said:

Schadenfreude, I guess it has a place here?

Install is their chosen marketplace, not consumer audio, so they probably aren’t tuned in. Not heard of Hugo before, chances are he joined after Meridian lost the money.

 

Small thing that people seem to forget in their MQA hate fest, Meridian actually make some excellent Hi-Fi gear. Sooloos bore Roon. Second hand DSP speakers are a huge Hi-Fi bargain. An excellent pair of digital active speakers, £500. Plug in a SPDIF source (Allo) and you would need to spend 10 times that to improve the sound (ps to Allo excepting). But hate away...

 

Nice try defending Meridian Audio. Meridian’s operating losses where brought up to support the market has consistently rejected Bob Stuart’s ideas about sound. So, it is your opinion that Meridian makes excellent audio equipment, nothing else.

 

And according to LinkedIn Hugo Fitzjohn has been around since 2014. He has never seen an operating profit at Meridian.

[Tintinabulum]

2 hours ago, kumakuma said:

I think it was the irony of the phrase used in the tweet. Kind of along these lines...

If it was irony, it wasn't a good example. Irony isn't so common in the US. 

[kumakuma]

7 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

If it was irony, it wasn't a good example. Irony isn't so common in the US. 

 

So you don't see the irony of a company that's lost money for years providing advice on how to make money to other businesses?

[Thuaveta]

10 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

Irony isn't so common in the US. 

 

Yeah, them north americans think it's like rain, on your wedding day. Or a free ride when you've already paid. Or the good advice that you just didn't take.

[MikeyFresh]

16 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

So you don't see the irony of a company that's lost money for years providing advice on how to make money to other businesses?

 

I certainly do, it's a great example of irony:

• a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

If not ironic, then perhaps peculiar is an apt description?

[Tintinabulum]

39 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

So you don't see the irony of a company that's lost money for years providing advice on how to make money to other businesses?

If that were the situation yes, but that wasn't the comment.

 

It's about a company with a poor profit record and someone who may have  just joined the company telling AV installers how to make money by adding zones to installs. 

 

Not very ironic, more like enjoying Meridian's lack of profit because you all hate MQA (and ignoring a great manufacturer of hifi) and involving a sales guy in the hate. No irony there, just spite. 

 

 

[Tintinabulum]

18 minutes ago, MikeyFresh said:

If not ironic, then perhaps peculiar is an apt description?

You've missed the point, have a re-read.

[Tintinabulum]

2 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

Meridian’s operating losses where brought up to support the market has consistently rejected Bob Stuart’s ideas about sound

Wow, massive leap, could be anything else could it? Like he's no good at making money (good at hifi though) The MQA hate just goes on....

 

Meridian has produced excellent hifi, I've listened to a lot over the last last 30/40  years, excellent gear, still sounding excellent as well. I have gear I bought in 89, still sounding ... goes what ... excellent.

[The Computer Audiophile]

8 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

If that were the situation yes, but that wasn't the comment.

 

It's about a company with a poor profit record and someone who has just joined the company telling AV installers how to make money by adding zones to installs. 

 

Not very ironic, more like enjoying Meridian's lack of profit because you all hate MQA (and ignoring a great manufacturer of hifi) and involving a sales guy in the hate. No irony there, just spite. 

 

 

 

Perhaps you're more familiar with what it's like to enjoy a company's lack of profit, thus why you projected that onto us? 

 

Nothing personal against Hugo, but his name is out there as the guy helping people / as a representative of the company. Seems like you're projecting "hate" onto us. I doubt anyone here knows his enough to like or hate him. 

 

 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

Meridian's massive losses are very important because it provides very specific motive for brining to market the scam

that is MQA. It was a last ditch effort. No difference than Wall Street criminals fabricating scam derivatives and exotic

financial instruments that have zero value but providing trading revenue by foisting them on unsuspecting fools. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

Wow, massive leap, could be anything else could it? Like he's no good at making money (good at hifi though) The MQA hate just goes on....

 

Meridian has produced excellent hifi, I've listened to a lot over the last last 30/40  years, excellent gear, still sounding excellent as well. I have gear I bought in 89, still sounding ... goes what ... excellent.

Perhaps you missed Meridian being brought up many months ago in this thread? 

[Tintinabulum]

6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Perhaps you missed Meridian being brought up many months ago in this thread? 

Is that relevant? There could be dozens of reasons why Meridian don't make money, people not liking Bob probably isn't one.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Just now, Tintinabulum said:

Is that relevant? There could be dozens of reasons why Meridian don't make money, people not liking Bob probably isn't one.

I thought it relevant because your comments seemed to suggest that bringing up Meridian was a new thing, when in fact it wasn't.

[Tintinabulum]

9 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Meridian's massive losses are very important because it provides very specific motive for brining to market the scam

Not sure they ever made any real money. What a ridiculous fantasy. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

Not sure they ever made any real money.

Many people are very sure.

 

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02710631

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

5 minutes ago, Tintinabulum said:

Not sure they ever made any real money. What a ridiculous fantasy. 

Not a fantasy. Companies and executives who have bled out money often come up with various absurd schemes to climb out the hole. Bob Stuart is the John DeLorean of audio. 

[Tintinabulum]

2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

thought it relevant because your comments seemed to suggest that bringing up Meridian was a new thing, when in fact it wasn't.

Im sure Meridian has come up dozens of times in this MQA topic. My comments were about ridiculing a tweet on the basis of Meridian's profit performance and an unrelated comment to installers.

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Not a fantasy. Companies and executives who have bled out money often come up with various absurd schemed to climb out the hole. Bob Stuart is the John DeLorean of audio. 

Minus the cocaine.

 

Even I think this is a stretch.

 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

Minus the cocaine.

 

Even I think this is a stretch.

 

Yes, minus the cocaine. But like DeLorean, Stuart made a desperate move to save his sinking ship. 

 

Any audio engineer not drunk or high would look at MQA and know it is a hilarious joke on a technical level. 

[Tintinabulum]

Meridian make hifi equipment. When you've all finished hating them, check out the gear, sounds great. This discussion board used to be about hifi, look where progress has taken us. Too busy hating to listen to music. Sad.

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

Just now, Tintinabulum said:

Meridian make hifi equipment. When you've all finished hating them, check out the gear, sounds great. This discussion board used to be about hifi, look where progress has taken us. Too busy hating to listen to music. Sad.

you DO understand that MQA came out of the womb of Meridian????? 

[Tintinabulum]

2 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Stuart made a desperate move to save his sinking ship.

Isn't MQA is a seperate company? Meridian still make hifi- have a listen...

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, Tintinabulum said:

Meridian make hifi equipment. When you've all finished hating them, check out the gear, sounds great. This discussion board used to be about hifi, look where progress has taken us. Too busy hating to listen to music. Sad.

Perhaps you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater? Just because you disagree with people posting facts about Meridian, doesn't mean the direction of the site has changed.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Just now, Tintinabulum said:

Isn't MQA is a seperate company? Meridian still make hifi- have a listen...

MQA was launched by Meridian, after first trying to get Pono to accept it, then spun out of Merdian into a new entity. Same ownership I believe. 

[Tintinabulum]

2 minutes ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

you DO understand that MQA came out of the womb of Meridian????? 

Yes. Do you understand they make hifi?