Ralf11 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 So, I guess it is time for some fun quotes about copyright law... Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. Mark Twain Axial 1 Link to comment
Axial Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 "In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous". Tacitus crenca 1 Sound Matters Link to comment
Axial Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 "Things don't just happen in this world of arising and passing away. We don't live in some kind of crazy, accidental universe. Things happen according to certain laws, laws of nature. Laws such as the law of karma, which teaches us that as a certain seed gets planted, so will that fruit be". Sharon Salzberg Sound Matters Link to comment
Axial Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 "The absolute transformation of everything that we ever thought about music will take place within 10 years, and nothing is going to be able to stop it. I see absolutely no point in pretending that it's not going to happen. I'm fully confident that copyright, for instance, will no longer exist in 10 years". David Bowie _____ "There is no sense in owning the copyright unless you are going to use it. I don't think anyone wants to hold all of this stuff in a vault and not let anybody have it. It's only worth something once it's popular". Hilary RosenRead more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/copyright Sound Matters Link to comment
Axial Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 "In the epic war over Silicon Valley's intellectual property, Bill Gates was on the side of licensing copyright and robust protections for intellectual property. He wasn't on the side of the hackers, and he didn't want information to be free". Franklin Foer _____ "The problem with copyright enforcement is that when the parameters aren't incredibly well defined, it means big corporations, who have deeper pockets and better lawyers, can bully people". Shepard Fairey Sound Matters Link to comment
Paul R Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Ralf11 said: So, I guess it is time for some fun quotes about copyright law... Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. Mark Twain I'll see you one Mark Twain on Copyrights and raise you one Kipling on the Gods of the Copybooks... The Gods Of The Copybook Headings As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market-Place. Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all. We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn. That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn: But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breath of Mind, So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind. We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace, Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market-Place; But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome. With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch. They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch. They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings. So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things. When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace. They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife) Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith, And the Gods of the Copybook Heading said: "The Wages of Sin is Death." In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Heading said: "If you don't work you die." Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew, And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true That All is not God that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four- And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more. As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man- There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:- That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wobbling back to the Fire; And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! [It was short enough to include the entire text here, and is it not under copyright of course. It does speak, elegantly, of the conflict with MQA does it not? You can find it on several websites like this one, but they are all infested with too much advertising. Gods of the Copybook Headings indeed... -PR] Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Jud Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 8 hours ago, kumakuma said: His LinkedIn profile shows him getting his J.D. in 2008. Don't know if he was with a firm then, but firms will often have their younger associates publish articles as a way of marketing them. Firm bios for partners will show significant clients, matters they've worked on and positions they've held in various organizations; associates will have fewer of these, so their bios can show the articles they've had published. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
SilvesterH Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Hi, I`m a practicing lawyer myself. I work in continental Europe so our legal system is quite different. But what I have to say is that Jud is quite right, the devil is in the details, not in broad principles. Jud 1 Link to comment
rando Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 11 hours ago, fung0 said: I made no comparison between Meridian (MQA Inc.) and Sony. The example of Blu-ray should speak to anyone who would contend that there's no fear of... No? Meridian Quips Aplenty somehow existed in that (ongoing) redirection toward's Sony's sins (in your highly reasoned approximation). Which gives me less confidence of seeing anything displayed but a reflection of the blind determination pro-MQA industry veterans here are broadly accused of. In the real world when someone releases a few dollars into a Redbox machine for a full quality BD disc. Nothing internally triggers memories of all the consumer instigated A/V formats ran asunder by the international consortium of evil corporations who produced a stable platform for the medium of cinematography to be internationally distributed on. At least I feel confident speaking for the overwhelming majority in that regard. Nobody else here is one bit confused the correct parallel to draw is with one of the open source video formats. The differentiating elements being extensive. I'd suggest reconsulting with your 🔮 Link to comment
Jud Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/16/2019 at 9:37 AM, Jud said: Later today or tomorrow I'll post a process with a "way around that." Done: Paul R 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Teresa Posted March 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2019 22 hours ago, fung0 said: ...Of course, you can theoretically use the Brand X social media platform - but you won't be able to contact anyone you know. Not because Facebook is so brilliant technically, but because 2.5 billion people are already on Facebook's platform... Well, they won't be able contact me as I'm not on any social media. Have you heard they have all had security breaches? No social media is secure, no matter the misinformation they try to spread. There are 7.5 billion people on Earth, the smart ones IMHO are the 5 billion who are not on Facebook. You will never find me on social media and you will not find any MQA in my home. If MQA is the only thing offered in the future I will just quit buying music. I love my current music collection of many hundreds of SACDs, DSD downloads and 24-bit PCM downloads that I can live without adding another piece of music to my collection. No one can force anyone to do anything. We can say No! Rt66indierock, crenca, MetalNuts and 4 others 5 2 I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums. I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past. I still love music. Teresa Link to comment
firedog Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Teresa said: Well, they won't be able contact me as I'm not on any social media. Have you heard they have all had security breaches? No social media is secure, no matter the misinformation they try to spread. There are 7.5 billion people on Earth, the smart ones IMHO are the 5 billion who are not on Facebook. You will never find me on social media and you will not find any MQA in my home. If MQA is the only thing offered in the future I will just quit buying music. I love my current music collection of many hundreds of SACDs, DSD downloads and 24-bit PCM downloads that I can live without adding another piece of music to my collection. No one can force anyone to do anything. We can say No! I would suggest that by participating in this forum you are on social media. Teresa and daverich4 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, firedog said: I would suggest that by participating in this forum you are on social media. kinda, sorta but the data mining is greatly reduced crenca 1 Link to comment
Popular Post AMR/iFi audio Posted March 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2019 21 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Let’s ask @AMR/iFi audio Yes, we used measurement charts of the AMR DP-777 and iFi Pro DSD by Stereophile and did not reference or ask for prior permission. This is totally our mistake as we dropped the ball. We have already corresponded with Stereophile and have apologised unreservedly for the mistake. We will be rectifying the references asap! For the record, we wish to apologise fully to John Atkinson and Jim Austin of Stereophile. lucretius, Lee Scoggins, Axial and 7 others 7 3 Our PowerStation is here: click me! Check out our Tidal MQA Set-up Guides below. Android (Renderer) MobileDesktop (Decoder) via USBDesktop (Decoder) via SPDIF Link to comment
rickca Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Yes, we used measurement charts of the AMR DP-777 and iFi Pro DSD by Stereophile and did not reference or ask for prior permission. This is totally our mistake as we dropped the ball. We have already corresponded with Stereophile and have apologised unreservedly for the mistake. We will be rectifying the references asap! For the record, we wish to apologise fully to John Atkinson and Jim Austin of Stereophile. Well, I'm really glad I posted a link to your white paper then. That's what lead to this discovery. Wow, you guys sure know how to blow your credibility. AMR/iFi audio 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post John_Atkinson Posted March 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Yes, we used measurement charts of the AMR DP-777 and iFi Pro DSD by Stereophile and did not reference or ask for prior permission. This is totally our mistake as we dropped the ball. We have already corresponded with Stereophile and have apologised unreservedly for the mistake. We will be rectifying the references asap! For the record, we wish to apologise fully to John Atkinson and Jim Austin of Stereophile. Thank you. I believe Jim Austin got in touch with you earlier today with a possible solution. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile Lee Scoggins and Axial 2 Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Yes, we used measurement charts of the AMR DP-777 and iFi Pro DSD by Stereophile and did not reference or ask for prior permission. This is totally our mistake as we dropped the ball. We have already corresponded with Stereophile and have apologised unreservedly for the mistake. We will be rectifying the references asap! For the record, we wish to apologise fully to John Atkinson and Jim Austin of Stereophile. Why didn't you measure them yourself? Link to comment
rando Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Without further information that may not be forthcoming. The question might rather be phrased as how did other than your own charts find their way into publication. Link to comment
Axial Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 19 hours ago, firedog said: I would suggest that by participating in this forum you are on social media. An extremely small sector of it ... digital audio music server/computer/office/home/private/public world. ...With style. Everything else is secondary, for another world, for an internal affair. Only the occasional related economic, geographic and bio-chemistry (DNA) can enter periodically; that's part of of the overall style created by this community...its writers, reviewers, expert contributors, experienced parties and interested culture. The forum is not a cult, it's a public gathering of passionate stylistic digits audiophiliacs. So yes it is a supremely miniscule social media strictly concentrated in one of the smallest sector of our planet...the digital audio transmission. In my own rough estimation it's about 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the global full spectrum of things contributing to the good health of our humanity and our planet. Still, it's important because music matters. Teresa 1 Sound Matters Link to comment
Axial Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 18 hours ago, AMR/iFi audio said: Yes, we used measurement charts of the AMR DP-777 and iFi Pro DSD by Stereophile and did not reference or ask for prior permission. This is totally our mistake as we dropped the ball. We have already corresponded with Stereophile and have apologised unreservedly for the mistake. We will be rectifying the references asap! For the record, we wish to apologise fully to John Atkinson and Jim Austin of Stereophile. John is a sweet man; I'm sure he loves to spread the music love and expand the audio world in sharing with all the audio/music lovers in the global community. Libraries are where all the teachers and students learn more about everything in the world. Thank you for putting the dots on the "i"s. There is a balance between living and working for a living; the laws we make are the laws affecting that balance of all freedoms. Every country is different, every person has his/her view of the laws governing the lands. Each opinion counts, each law should reflect peace and harmony in the democracy we live in. It's not the bikers or the army who rule like the Lords, it's the people who they serve. The graphs who they serve. In the halls of Vienna the musicians play ... Sound Matters Link to comment
Popular Post John Dyson Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 5:15 PM, fung0 said: Not off-topic at all. I've resisted bringing up this example myself only because I felt it had been over-used around the Internet. But telemetry is only part of the problem with Windows. The big issue is loss of choice. Currently, my PCs all run either Windows 7 or Linux. But next time I need to upgrade my hardware, Windows 7 will not be an option - not because users demanded this, but because Microsoft and Intel have agreed it should be that way. Nor is there any Windows 'competitor' that can offer me a reasonably compatible alternative - say, with no telemetry, no advertising, no 'Metro' tablet-oriented controls, no built-in DRM, etc. The computing 'tech' press has been largely silent on all this. Occasionally, they criticize Windows 10 on minor points. But even when there's a major disaster, such as a forced update that 'bricks' large numbers of PCs, there's no general furor - it's treated as 'just one of those things,' and there's constructive criticism of Microsoft's QA process. Nobody in the computer press exerts pressure for Microsoft to be broken up - for that, you have to go to outsiders like Ralph Nader. At this point, Windows is about a decade behind where it should be technically. But it has something like 1.5 billion (legal) users and around 90% share of the personal computer market, so Microsoft can do whatever it likes. Music is a little looser, with four companies (it is still four, isn't it?) splitting the bulk of the business, but the problem is essentially the same. The Windows dominance is a real problem -- but I use Linux (I wrote part of FreeBSD) simply because -- it is better, easier, less external 'control' against my will. The trouble with Linux is that a lot of stuff isn't compatible, and there are programs that are not available for it. On the other hand, much of the time I can find alternatives available on Linux to programs running on Windows.. Also, I get the advantage of a MUCH snappier system (not because of a lack of complexity/power, but simply more competence.) There had been bugs in the 32/64bit Windows products since the beginning -- not being fixed for a DECADE (when I speak of problems -- I mean design flaws causing suboptimal behavior.) This qualitative argument is meaningless when 'everyone' uses Windows (or the equivalently messed up Apple products.) However, when I must use Windows (program builds for Windows targets), then I use a little laptop for that. I invest very little in Windows because it is so very unlikely that it is of good enough quality to avoid being a hinderence. 99% of the fancy development tools on Windows are mostly just eye candy, and often easier to use/do on Linux. Linux has a truly SLIGHTLY longer learning curve, but just enough to make Windows take control. (Apple supposedly is easier to use -- but the problem is that the flexibility appears even more limited.) This Windows dominance thing really makes me sad -- but the populace has not be educated on the actual use of computers, so very similar to the parent who thinks that a child is 'learning computers' when playing games -- so many users casually using Windows aren't really getting the experience to understand and fully utilize computers. OSes like Linux require a small amoujnt of additional learning to use, but then the vistas open up. The historical control by Microsoft has been a sad thing. I am not on a 'crusade' either way, but it is so very sad indeed. I could make emotional arguments -- that that isn't my style anymore -- my testosterone is all dried up :-). John Shadders, Ran and Ishmael Slapowitz 3 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, John Dyson said: OSes like Linux require a small amount of additional learning to use, but then the vistas open up. I see what you did there. Ishmael Slapowitz and Ran 2 Link to comment
Paul R Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, John Dyson said: This qualitative argument is meaningless when 'everyone' uses Windows (or the equivalently messed up Apple products.) Everyone doesn't use Windows, at least not all the time. That has always been a pernicious fallacy perpetuated from Microsoft. (Gods of the Copybook headings!) Difference is Macs (and Windows at version 10) have very good GUIs, much better than the equivalent GUI's under Linux, Unix, or the various relatives of those. That's important, not everyone can just drop to a terminal window and be comfortable or productive. I do think everyone should know vi, but that is an unpopular viewpoint. 😁 The underpinnings of MacOS are basically a BSD, the Darwin family to be more precise. That makes it very familiar to me. Also, almost all the GUI capabilities have command line equivalents. That's one of the reasons I tend to run MacOS much more often than Windows. But, I admit, I do have a Windows laptop around for those rare times when I want to run something that is Windows only - like Deltawave. Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
fung0 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 hours ago, John Dyson said: (I wrote part of FreeBSD) I am indeed honored to participate in this discussion with you, sir. About all I can claim is that I've written about Linux... (Not so much BSD, I'm afraid.) Quote it is better, easier, less external 'control' against my will. The trouble with Linux is that a lot of stuff isn't compatible, and there are programs that are not available for it. On the other hand, much of the time I can find alternatives available on Linux to programs running on Windows.. Also, I get the advantage of a MUCH snappier system This matches my own feelings. I love the performance of Linux, and the total control it gives me. I have enjoyed discovering various Linux-based software alternatives. I currently still use a Windows 7 machine for gaming and general office work, but I have two laptops and a desktop running Mint. Quote Linux has a truly SLIGHTLY longer learning curve, but just enough to make Windows take control. (Apple supposedly is easier to use -- but the problem is that the flexibility appears even more limited.) I'm finding Linux no more challenging than Windows 7, and massively more pleasant to use than the infuriating Windows 10. The Mac has never really been easier to use, but it has been more polished. And, to its credit, Apple has avoided ruining it. The beauty of Linux is that nothing is hidden, or locked away. It's a dream to install and maintain, compared to Windows. Quote The historical control by Microsoft has been a sad thing. I am not on a 'crusade' either way, but it is so very sad indeed. Microsoft was once a powerful force for good. The trouble with organizations in general is that they mutate over time. Even open-source projects have been known to go off the rails. This is why users need to speak up more forcefully. Shadders 1 Link to comment
lucretius Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Paul R said: I do think everyone should know vi, but that is an unpopular viewpoint. 😁 There's no way I'm ever going to pickup on vi or emacs ever again. No way, no how. Thanks, anyway. gcoupe 1 mQa is dead! Link to comment
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