MQA is Vaporware

[plissken]

If I'm not going to "read into", i.e. report on, what the major players in the industry *do*, are you suggesting that I should report on forum posts?

 

(I'm being serious)

 

You could do both where content of the post merits it. Its trending toward 360 degree input.

[mansr]

One more question - do you think that Pandora and Rhapsody know less about this subject than you?

 

What matters is not how much they know, but how much they care.

[Michael Lavorgna]

I think there is a difference between reporting on what they do (or say) and making predictions based on their actions (or statements).

 

In other words, I disagree with your assumption that because Pandora and Rhapsody have announced non-MQA hi-res streaming services AND because these companies know more about the industry than we do, there will always be non-MQA sources of hi-res music from the major suppliers of content.

 

 

I never said "always". I said for the foreseeable future.

[mansr]

Which had better video quality - Beta or VHS?

 

VHS had porn. Betamax didn't.

[Michael Lavorgna]

What matters is not how much they know, but how much they care.

 

Care about what? You? Me? Us? Sound quality?

 

I can answer those questions - they don't.

[kumakuma]

I never said "always". I said for the foreseeable future.

 

Thank you. I've corrected my post.

[plissken]

I was simply using his words.

 

But you aren't denied a FLAC file in the end if you purchase PCM. I'm simply curious if there would be the ability (not the need since the file sizes are pretty small) to transcode.

[crenca]

So you see Tidal's MQA deal as being more significant in the eyes of the labels than the fact that other larger and more influential streaming services are not adopting MQA?

 

Yes. The latter is the "status quo", what you see most of in a market transition up until the point when you see less of it. The formal is the more significant because it is what the industry wants (here, again, RH article is spot on IMO). Right now it is small, "an experiment", and it could fail (for several reasons). However if it succeeds then it becomes a real market disruption and the other players will fall in line - and it will of course be in their $interest$ to do so.

[Michael Lavorgna]

You could do both where content of the post merits it. Its trending toward 360 degree input.

 

 

How do you suggest I determine the validity of forum posts by anonymous posters?

 

Oh wait, I know! How many times they call someone a coward! (joke)

[Jud]

Thanks for that.

 

I have to admit that I have no interest in the music released by the 3 majors. I'd imagine most audiophiles, demographically speaking, have no interest in new music from the big 3 either.

 

Their "war chest" has been fitfully looted - how many more reissues of "Kind Of Blue" does anyone need - so my thoughts are that the concern here is more altruistic.

 

So no interest, for example, in The Beatles in 24/96 or 24/192? Warner artists Aretha Franklin, Bela Fleck, Arvo Part, Led Zeppelin, Mark Knopfler, Prince, Regina Spektor, Sturgill Simpson, Tori Amos, Van Morrison, Wiz Khalifa, Megadeth ( )?

 

 

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[mansr]

Care about what? You? Me? Us? Sound quality?

 

I can answer those questions - they don't.

 

Anything other than their profit. Obviously, they don't. Apparently, neither do you.

[Michael Lavorgna]

So no interest, for example, in The Beatles in 24/96 or 24/192? Warner artists Aretha Franklin, Bela Fleck, Arvo Part, Led Zeppelin, Mark Knopfler, Prince, Regina Spektor, Sturgill Simpson, Tori Amos, Van Morrison, Wiz Khalifa, Megadeth ( )?

 

 

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I'm good with all of the music by people who are no longer making music. I buy Sturgill's LPs.

[Michael Lavorgna]

Anything other than their profit. Obviously, they don't. Apparently, neither do you.

"Apparently, neither do you."

 

Please explain - you lost me.

[kumakuma]

I have to admit that I have no interest in the music released by the 3 majors. I'd imagine most audiophiles, demographically speaking, have no interest in new music from the big 3 either.

 

So why do you list a number of albums released by these companies on your Best of 2016 list?

 

ML's 33 1/3 More Favorite 2016 Albums | AudioStream

[plissken]

How do you suggest I determine the validity of forum posts by anonymous posters?

 

Oh wait, I know! How many times they call someone a coward! (joke)

 

I would guess the same way if a manufacture is shining you on. Like re-packaging an Oppo player into a $3.5K device?

 

I would say on the merits. That's a judgement call. When John Sully was talking about how Cache operations on Intel CPU's and the bit streaming conversation you could have easily encapsulated that into a future article. But I have a feeling if it doesn't meet a certain narrative....

[Michael Lavorgna]

So why do you list a number of albums released by these companies on your Best of 2016 list?

 

ML's 33 1/3 More Favorite 2016 Albums | AudioStream

 

 

To be inclusive? To score points with our daughters?

 

OK you got me. Give me a count of how many of the records I own are from the big 3.

[kumakuma]

To be inclusive? To score points with our daughters?

 

OK you got me. Give me a count of how many of the records I own are from the big 3.

 

I'm not going to go down the entire list but three of the first four albums on your list were released by labels owned by Sony.

[Michael Lavorgna]

I would guess the same way if a manufacture is shining you on. Like re-packaging an Oppo player into a $3.5K device?

 

I would say on the merits. That's a judgement call. When John Sully was talking about how Cache operations on Intel CPU's and the bit streaming conversation you could have easily encapsulated that into a future article. But I have a feeling if it doesn't meet a certain narrative....

Your feeling is wrong. I'm trying to avoid this nonsense but here's a tip for you - look at the people who complain about who I ban from AudioStream. Then look at the language they use. Like yours. Get the picture?

 

If you have a valid point to make, you can make it without nonsense. The same should hold for the people I've banned. We are adults, no?

 

But some people cannot stick to the point. My guess is because their point, stripped of all the bullshit macho posturing, is rather thin. Of course this is just a guess based on 5 years' experience.

[Michael Lavorgna]

I'm not going to go down the entire list but three of the first four albums on your list were released by labels owned by Sony.

Those are the three albums on the list from the majors. When you want to make a point, it may make sense to work up the energy to know what you're talking about. It was 33 1/3 records long. Is that asking too much?

[jbwhite]

Actually, not all communication (even most) is about convincing the other side or "converting" - much of it is simply a mess where people are trying to figure out what is being said about what at all. This is a "benefit" that is not often talked about but is real. Again, the personal tit for tat is all but useless. However, in the real world there is always (always always always) some amount of that and the idea that we can "purge" such unpleasantness completely is idealistic (that is to say, unrealistic).

 

I bet you wish you had better communication with your wife. I bet after the last fight you promised yourself you were never going to stoop to such a level again. I also know (as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow) that you will do exactly that (stoop low, even lower) within a week, or a month - soon, soon you will be saying awful things to your wife. I could ask you "do you think that helps/converts/etc." but we both know the answer to that question...

 

I don't know what you are talking about. That doesn't sound anything like what our relationship is. Even if it was, I don't see the connection to what we've been discussing.

 

She did just interrupt me to eat dinner. But that was a good thing.

Is this on topic for the site? This place is even crazier than I thought.

[Michael Lavorgna]

I don't know what you are talking about. That doesn't sound anything like what our relationship is. Even if it was, I do know how you make the connection to what we've been discussing.

 

She did just interrupt me to eat dinner. But that was a good thing.

Is this on topic for the site? This place is even crazier than I thought.

 

This place is even crazier than *I* thought ;-)

[plissken]

Your feeling is wrong. I'm trying to avoid this nonsense but here's a tip for you - look at the people who complain about who I ban from AudioStream. Then look at the language they use. Like yours. Get the picture?

 

If you have a valid point to make, you can make it without nonsense. The same should hold for the people I've banned. We are adults, no?

 

 

All I have to go by is each persons reputation. I've seen meritorious information provided in comments at your site and would be interested what future musings by you incorporated those points.

 

Just wanted to answer your question and get back to the thread at hand.

[Michael Lavorgna]

All I have to go by is each persons reputation. I've seen meritorious information provided in comments at your site and would be interested what future musings by you incorporated those points.

 

Just wanted to answer your question and get back to the thread at hand.

 

I'd recommend reading the comments by CG in all of the Ethernet posts. He is an expert in his field and his field is not limited to IT.

[kumakuma]

Those are the three albums on the list from the majors. When you want to make a point, it may make sense to work up the energy to know what you're talking about. It was 33 1/3 records long. Is that asking too much?

 

Really?

 

Kendrick Lamar is an Interscope/Universal artist and Sturgill Simpson records for Atlantic/Warner. I'm sure there's more if anyone wants to dig deeper.

 

The point here is that these three companies control the musical diets of a vast number of people, even those with your refined tastes.

[Michael Lavorgna]

Really?

 

Kendrick Lamar is an Interscope/Universal artist and Sturgill Simpson records for Atlantic/Warner. I'm sure there's more if anyone wants to dig deeper.

 

Yes, I missed those. And your point is what? Exactly?