Popular Post Ralf11 Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, kumakuma said: Color me cynical but it is hard to take you seriously when all of your posts in this forum up until now have been MQA propaganda. not quite true - about 5% of his posts have been bragging about his stereo crenca and kumakuma 2 Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Lee Scoggins said: So I guess CA has reached a point in the MQA debate where a dissenting opinion is labelled propaganda. Only for those of you who prejudge an entire site based on comments of a few. Hugo9000, kumakuma, rickca and 1 other 1 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mansr Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said: Not trying for either. Just thought some here would find my setup interesting. It's been a long journey to assemble so I am a bit proud of it. How is that even remotely topical for this thread? Are you trying to deliberately derail it, or do you genuinely not understand the concept of a thread topic? Link to comment
Popular Post Hugo9000 Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, mansr said: How is that even remotely topical for this thread? Are you trying to deliberately derail it, or do you genuinely not understand the concept of a thread topic? It could be topical to MQA, if he is delicately hinting that some or all of his "setup" was what they called "promotional consideration" on those TV game shows and talk shows of old (perhaps they still do this, but I haven't watched such crap in decades haha!). crenca and Ralf11 2 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子,从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, mansr said: How is that even remotely topical for this thread? Are you trying to deliberately derail it, or do you genuinely not understand the concept of a thread topic? I'm guessing he is trying to make himself a more credible shill by showing us that he has a high-end system. Ralf11, MikeyFresh and Indydan 2 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, kumakuma said: I'm guessing he is trying to make himself a more credible shill by showing us that he has a high-end system. The good ship Credibility sailed a long, long time ago. I just don't want to engage on this topic further. It's become tiresome. kumakuma, Mordikai and MikeyFresh 2 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Actually, I do find your "setup interesting" Lee. While you have obviously spent a lot of money on it (even considering promotional considerations), it is out of all proportion to the room. I am also not seeing much in the way of acoustic tmts. either. But this all belongs in a different thread. Kyhl 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, rickca said: The good ship Credibility sailed a long, long time ago. Right behind the Brinkman Ship? kumakuma, Mordikai, Don Hills and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Rt66indierock Posted December 6, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Lee Scoggins said: So I guess CA has reached a point in the MQA debate where a dissenting opinion is labelled propaganda. Lee the marketing campaign of MQA is based on the seven techniques of propaganda. And to paraphrase Henry R Luce (Time Magazine founder) it is up to us to decide the truth, the false, the near-truth and the near-false. Many have chosen Computer Audiophile as a place to decide these issues and share their views. MQA as a format could not withstand the scrutiny. MikeyFresh and crenca 1 1 Link to comment
daverich4 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Only for those of you who prejudge an entire site based on comments of a few. A few? If you’re not on the “MQA is the crappiest sound to come out of a stereo in history” bandwagon when posting on this site you can expect to get piled on by a horde of anti-MQA vigilantes. Ralf even found it necessary to take a dig at MQA in a comment on your post about the new McIntosh gear. Mustn’t let any thread go by without at least one mention of how bad MQA is apparently. Lee Scoggins 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, daverich4 said: A few? If you’re not on the “MQA is the crappiest sound to come out of a stereo in history” bandwagon when posting on this site you can expect to get piled on by a horde of anti-MQA vigilantes. Ralf even found it necessary to take a dig at MQA in a comment on your post about the new McIntosh gear. Mustn’t let any thread go by without at least one mention of how bad MQA is apparently. Of the million visitors this year to CA, what percentage are in that anti MQA vigilante group? Hugo9000 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Jud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said: So I guess CA has reached a point in the MQA debate where a dissenting opinion is labelled propaganda. We can certainly leave the pejoratives out of it. So I will just say your experience is at variance with mine. @Rt66indierock's recent comment about changing the sound of the master might be a key here: I have heard MQA sound better than Redbook or hi res, but only where the master was obviously different. Currawong 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
daverich4 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Of the million visitors this year to CA, what percentage are in that anti MQA vigilante group? Are you saying that you have a million unique visitors to your site? In any event, you maybe have thousands of people actually participating in the forums by posting which is the figure that’s relevant. You may or may not have that information, I certainly don’t. Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Of the million visitors this year to CA, what percentage are in that anti MQA vigilante group? I have read at least 4 folks saying they like MQA, so that leaves a maximum possible number of 999,996. Indydan, MikeyFresh, The Computer Audiophile and 1 other 3 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Lee Scoggins Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Ralf11 said: Actually, I do find your "setup interesting" Lee. While you have obviously spent a lot of money on it (even considering promotional considerations), it is out of all proportion to the room. I am also not seeing much in the way of acoustic tmts. either. But this all belongs in a different thread. Ralf, I use the Synergistic Research HFTs for room acoustics and it works well. If you look closely, you will see them properly place in a grid patter on the walls, ceiling, and equipment & record racks. I'm not sure what you are basing the "out of all proportion" comment on. Peter said it was one of the better rooms had heard recently. He is not one to make such comments lightly. Link to comment
Lee Scoggins Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jud said: We can certainly leave the pejoratives out of it. So I will just say your experience is at variance with mine. @Rt66indierock's recent comment about changing the sound of the master might be a key here: I have heard MQA sound better than Redbook or hi res, but only where the master was obviously different. But in my last two demos, there were no mastering differences and I heard a clear improvement. Link to comment
Lee Scoggins Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Only for those of you who prejudge an entire site based on comments of a few. To be more specific, I like the site overall and enjoy reading it. It's only the MQA threads I am meaning to reference in the prior comment. I stated "in the MQA debate..." Link to comment
Jud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Lee Scoggins said: But in my last two demos, there were no mastering differences and I heard a clear improvement. Yes, that's the part of your experience that's at variance with mine. ? MikeyFresh 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Lee Scoggins Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, Jud said: Yes, that's the part of your experience that's at variance with mine. ? Come visit in Atlanta and I can demo some clean tracks for an A/B. Link to comment
Jud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, Lee Scoggins said: Come visit in Atlanta and I can demo some clean tracks for an A/B. Will be pleased to if I'm ever in the vicinity. Lee Scoggins 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
crenca Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said: Ralf, I use the Synergistic Research HFTs Those are those thimbles full of "nano technology" if I am not mistaken... LOL! ? Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
Popular Post crenca Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, daverich4 said: A few? If you’re not on the “MQA is the crappiest sound to come out of a stereo in history” bandwagon when posting on this site you can expect to get piled on by a horde of anti-MQA vigilantes. Ralf even found it necessary to take a dig at MQA in a comment on your post about the new McIntosh gear. Mustn’t let any thread go by without at least one mention of how bad MQA is apparently. Please put your little violin back in its case. As a charter member of the "anti-MQA vigilantes", I admit that when same master is used, MQA is a pretty transparent "super MP3". Only when there is much HF content (brass, electronica, etc.) does the MQA digititus come through, and this only on transparent rigs. What makes MQA bad for the consumer and good for industry astroturfers like Lee Scoggins is all the other stuff like DRM, IP, rent seeking, etc. etc. Currawong and MikeyFresh 1 1 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said: I use the Synergistic Research HFTs for room acoustics and it works well. Oh dear. Hugo9000 and Kyhl 2 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, crenca said: Those are those thimbles full of "nano technology" if I am not mistaken... Little bits of aluminium rod sold at a 10 million percent markup. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, crenca said: Those are those thimbles full of "nano technology" if I am not mistaken... LOL! ? please don't expose his hegemonic meta-narrative to the cold light of reality Link to comment
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