MQA is Vaporware

[asdf1000]

6 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

The MQA people have been whispering about Apple for a while. But MQA won't help Apple gain market share so what's the point?

 

Didn’t @The Computer Audiophile say it was about consumer psychology when he mentioned a large and wealthy company?

 

Substitute Apple for Google/Amazon/other...

 

His explanation, not mine ?

 

Don’t forget he said he knows something you (and I) don’t..

[Rt66indierock]

1 hour ago, HalSF said:

With maximum skepticism, I can barely maybe imagine Apple *acquiring* MQA if they thought the engineering and SQ were legit, and were willing to demonstrate why. 

 

What I seriously can't imagine is Apple embracing MQA licensing, thus siccing the entire rabid global horde of the Apple tech press on the so-far obscure toxic scandal vibe surrounding MQA, blowing it up into a major controversy about audiophile snake oil and yes, vaporware. 

 

If Apple thought the engineering and sound quality were legit they would have acquired the technology before I wrote the Vaporware post.

 

[Ralf11]

I hear that MQA will be a free option on the $6,660 iPhone 12xs

[asdf1000]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

10000

 

This is no longer a vapourthread.

 

10k albums (the OP’s number) is likely < 200k tracks in Tidal?

 

Out of 40+ million Tidal tracks?

 

It's not my thread but if it were I would revise the (arbitrary) vapourthread number to 50k albums (which is < 1 million tracks)

 

[Hifi Bob]

13 hours ago, mansr said:

10000

 

This is no longer a vapourthread.

And yet MQA remains firmly stuck in the Betamax-zone.

It seems that only in Japan is there a smattering of interest.

 

 

[psjug]

2 hours ago, Hifi Bob said:

And yet MQA remains firmly stuck in the Betamax-zone.

It seems that only in Japan is there a smattering of interest.

 

 

I don't know if you made up the charts as a joke, but anyway it is pretty funny because Tidal isn't available in Japan.  So is the interest there in MQA cds?

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, psjug said:

I don't know if you made up the charts as a joke, but anyway it is pretty funny because Tidal isn't available in Japan.  So is the interest there in MQA cds?

That's one of the only places with interest in MQA CDs.

[mansr]

3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

That's one of the only places with interest in MQA CDs.

They seem to have a thing for special CDs there.

[Teresa]

17 hours ago, labjr said:

With any luck Apple will buy MQA and it will be mothballed like HDCD was shortly after it was acquired by Microsoft?...

 

HDCD was mothballed by Microsoft? My Yamaha Blu-ray / SACD player decodes HDCD as does many other universal players. Reference Recordings and many other companies are still releasing HDCDs. In addition the CD layer of Reference Recordings SACDs are HDCD encoded. The only difference I see is on the back of an HDCD credit is given to Microsoft instead Pacific Microsonics.

 

Is this perhaps something happening in the future? Also should I be concerned about decoded playback of HDCDs? Thanks in advance.

 

[labjr]

43 minutes ago, mansr said:

They seem to have a thing for special CDs there.

 

Japanese like physical medium. And they sort of co-invented CD's. I'd still be buying CDs if they had the capacity for Hi-Res. SACD's are still popular over there too.  And they liked their Laser Discs. 

[labjr]

9 minutes ago, Teresa said:

 

HDCD was mothballed by Microsoft? My Yamaha Blu-ray / SACD player decodes HDCD as does many other universal players. Reference Recordings and many other companies are still releasing HDCDs. In addition the CD layer of Reference Recordings SACDs are HDCD encoded. The only difference I see is on the back of an HDCD credit is given to Microsoft instead Pacific Microsonics.

 

Is this perhaps something happening in the future? Also should I be concerned about decoded playback of HDCDs? Thanks in advance.

 

 

To be honest, I haven't kept up on it. I looked at Wikipedia. However,  I haven't noticed any new titles with HDCD encoding.  But who shops for CD's anymore? Reference Recordings isn't exactly mainstream.

[Teresa]

58 minutes ago, labjr said:

To be honest, I haven't kept up on it. I looked at Wikipedia. However,  I haven't noticed any new titles with HDCD encoding.  But who shops for CD's anymore? Reference Recordings isn't exactly mainstream.

 

Thanks for clarifying. ? I'm not into mainstream, I prefer audiophile recordings and I still buy SACDs. And sometimes HDCD or CD if the audiophile recording I want is not available on SACD or as a hi-res download.

[Fokus]

Here is what ex-Microsoft man Amir M has to say about the HDCD acquisition:

 

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/mqa-bad-for-music.1378/page-2

[FredericV]

12 hours ago, Fokus said:

Here is what ex-Microsoft man Amir M has to say about the HDCD acquisition:

 

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/mqa-bad-for-music.1378/page-2

 

They detected the HDCD but did not decode it - but instead showed some light in the player.
In similar news we can throw away 1/3 of an MQA file, and the blue light will still shine.

The speaker correction since Vista actually worked and was audiophile quality, but you could only do one measurement point.

[FredericV]

It appears LeeS does not learn anything from the information posted here. He keeps ignoring all of the research as posted here, and keeps repeating the same lies over and over again.

This post from Doug Schneider is public:
 

 

 

So "MQA is not really compressed"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Quality_Authenticated

"Master Quality Authenticated (MQA) is an audio codec using lossy compression "

He now calls us Shannonistas.
 

[mansr]

3 minutes ago, FredericV said:

He now calls us Shannonistas

True, he wasn't banned. He bravely ran away.

[mansr]

As for The Doors, this is all you need:

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/the-complete-studio-albums-the-doors/0603497933105

[rando]

4 minutes ago, mansr said:

True, he wasn't banned. He bravely ran away.

 

Effecting a fighting retreat is no easy task.  We can't deny the existence of a certain tactical prowess lacking in many zealots.

[Sonicularity]

 

 

I still like to think of myself as more of a Nyconquistador than a Shannonista.

 

 

[mansr]

2 minutes ago, rando said:

Effecting a fighting retreat is no easy task.  We can't deny the existence of a certain tactical prowess lacking in many zealots.

Doing it properly requires a song:

 

[Sonicularity]

8 minutes ago, mansr said:

True, he wasn't banned. He bravely ran away.

 

Like brave, brave Sir Robin?  They both have merry minstrels.

 

 

 

[Sonicularity]

Wow, we think alike.  Jinx!

[mansr]

7 minutes ago, Sonicularity said:

Wow, we think alike.  Jinx!

Zwei Dumme, ein Gedanke, as they say in Germany.

[FredericV]

more lies from the shills:

 

We know MQA's leaky filters cause aliasing, they do not solve it.

Going to read that bobtalks art later, now prepping for a big show next weekend.

[r0dd3r5]

What HiFi doing it again: https://www.whathifi.com/advice/high-resolution-audio-everything-you-need-to-know

 

"MQA (hi-res): A lossless compression format that packages hi-res files with more emphasis on the time domain. Used for Tidal Masters hi-res streaming, but has limited support across products."

 

At least they say it has limited support!