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3 hours ago, FredericV said:

We should sponsor a mirror and send it to Hans.

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So we, the minority, were poorly informed?

So articles like these are based on the fact the we, the minority, are poorly informed?

Furthermore in the youtube comment section, he makes the absurd claim that "in general open source is great for professionals, less for consumers. ". At the same time he is making video's how to run open source distributions on raspberry pi and NUC's. Does he understand all android phones exists thx to open source?

He shows a very poor understanding of how software licenses and how open source works.

What big step?

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Hans Beekhuyzen makes me...

 

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6 minutes ago, mansr said:

Oh, that ridiculous log-magnitude plot of the impulse response. Has anyone seen such a plot anywhere other than in MQA marketing material? No? Why might that be...

Hard to see. What's their schtik? What are they trying to show?

 

Main listening (small home office):

Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments.

Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three .

Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup.
Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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20 minutes ago, firedog said:

Hard to see. What's their schtik? What are they trying to show?

 

MQA posit that their impulse responses are less audible (as ringing) than everyone else’s, and in both frequency and amplitude, humans hear logarithmically.

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7 minutes ago, Hifi Bob said:

MQA posit that their impulse responses are less audible (as ringing) than everyone else’s, and in both frequency and amplitude, humans hear logarithmically.

That plot of theirs is still meaningless.

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37 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

You must have a complete database of these cartoons...

I have Google.

 

37 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

Do you have the Front to Back ratio one that Peter Aczel ran in his mag.?

Don't recall that one.

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18 hours ago, Pete-FIN said:

Picture of the liner please :)

first, this rubbish.... 

 

Reissue in Hi-Res CD format (UHQCD format x MQA technology). Features the 192kHz/24bit DSD master in 2014, using UK original master tapes. The DSD master is available in 352.8kHz/24bit high resolution (perfect for MQA-enabled audio players). Comes with lyrics and a description. Green color label coating. Comes in a slim case packaging. *The disc can also be played on regular CD players in UHQCD 44.1kHz/16bit resolution. However, MQA-enabled hardware/software is necessary to harness the full potential of this Hi-Res CD.

 

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42 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

first, this rubbish.... 

 

Reissue in Hi-Res CD format (UHQCD format x MQA technology). Features the 192kHz/24bit DSD master in 2014, using UK original master tapes. The DSD master is available in 352.8kHz/24bit high resolution (perfect for MQA-enabled audio players). Comes with lyrics and a description. Green color label coating. Comes in a slim case packaging. *The disc can also be played on regular CD players in UHQCD 44.1kHz/16bit resolution. However, MQA-enabled hardware/software is necessary to harness the full potential of this Hi-Res CD.

 

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OMG, we finally see actual "deblurring!"  But it's not from MQA, it's the result of going from CD to HQCD, and then even more deblurring by going to UHQCD!  Just look at those waveforms in the second image you uploaded!  WOW!

请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子,从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hugo9000 said:

OMG, we finally see actual "deblurring!"  But it's not from MQA, it's the result of going from CD to HQCD, and then even more deblurring by going to UHQCD!  Just look at those waveforms in the second image you uploaded!  WOW!

Roon screenshot..will listen tomorrow while slogging through paperwork...also just got DS/ Love Over Gold...

 

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50 minutes ago, MikeyFresh said:

 

Huh? Thats not actually a thing.

They mean they made " tape.>DSD master >hi-res  PCM. Common work flow in Japan.

 

First, SACD still sells there.

Second, they probably like the sound of DSD. Third, it had probably been mastered to SACD for archive purposes long ago, so the easiest way to make MQA would be to first convert the DSD master they have and prefer to PCM.

 

I have a few hi-res Japanese remasters in PCM that were made this way, and they sound great. 

Main listening (small home office):

Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments.

Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three .

Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup.
Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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10 hours ago, Hugo9000 said:

OMG, we finally see actual "deblurring!"  But it's not from MQA, it's the result of going from CD to HQCD, and then even more deblurring by going to UHQCD!  Just look at those waveforms in the second image you uploaded!  WOW!

Those waveforms show the raw signal coming from the laser pickup. It's one of those things that needs to be good enough. After that, improving it further makes no difference. In a CD player, this signal is sent through an edge detector and a PLL to recover the NRZI-coded EFM data. A second PLL regulates the rotational speed such that the recovered clock matches the crystal oscillator reference. Here's an image of the same signal on a Sony CDP-101 playing a cheap Naxos CD:

 

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As long as the central edge is unambiguous, everything will be fine.

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Stereophiles coverage of HDCD from 1995

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/hdcd-keith-johnson-pflash-pflaumer-michael-ritter

 

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High Definition Compatible Digital® (HDCD®), the proprietary process for improving the sound of 16-bit digital audio, has finally arrived. More than a dozen digital processors using the technology are on the market, and the professional encoder used to master HDCD discs is following closely behind.
 

 

 

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I believe HDCD is a great breakthrough in digital audio sound quality, and one that brings unprecedented resolution and musicality to home playback—all on a standard compact disc.
 

 

 

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Pacific Microsonics, the Berkeley, California firm established to develop and market HDCD, has been reluctant to release much technical information about how the process works. Moreover, they've kept a low profile during their nearly ten-year development effort.
 

 

 

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Michael Ritter: HDCD is a comprehensive process for greatly increasing the fidelity of a digital audio recording. HDCD is fully compatible with the existing standard for consumer playback, the compact disc, which is fundamentally a linear format with 16-bit resolution and a sampling frequency of 44.1kHz.

We had to make HDCD compatible with this standard. Yet the goal of HDCD was to achieve a vastly higher level of fidelity—a level of fidelity directly comparable to the finest recording technology available—ie, first-generation analog master tape or direct-to-disc by record lathe. To do this, the HDCD process had to be a conjugate system. By that, we mean a system where all aspects of the recording and the playback decoding had to be controlled as much as possible. For that reason, the HDCD process wraps around both the A/D conversion and D/A conversion.

At the same time, as a concomitant requirement for this overall level of fidelity, we had to be able to take the HDCD process and essentially cut it in half. That is, encode the recordings, but be able to play the recordings on any standard playback equipment and simultaneously hear not only no artifacting, but a substantial improvement in fidelity over what can be obtained with a commercially available A/D converter. We've been successful in achieving that.

 

 

 

 

Hmmm.  Heard it before?

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