MQA is Vaporware

[opus101]

I guessed it could just be yet another irrelevancy. Or perhaps a typo for HDMI (even though the keys I and S are separated by half a keyboard....).

[Fair Hedon]

10 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

I think Bob and the team did learn a few things from their experience with MLP and DVD-Audio.

Bob Bob Bob Bobba Ann. Bob's your uncle...Bob oh Bob.

[Lee Scoggins]

23 minutes ago, Teresa said:

 

What is HDMS? I did a search and failed to find anything audio related.

 

Sorry, my shorthand for HDMusicStreaming.  The Cheskys are about to launch an all-MQA streaming site.

[The Computer Audiophile]

On 1/11/2018 at 11:39 AM, Lee Scoggins said:

 

So what?  This is just accurate reporting. CA is a hostile community to many.  Perhaps Chris thinks this brings out a more lively debate but the side effect of the hostility is that it scares off many experienced people.

 

You and others have attacked my character without knowing me or my intentions.  I don't see value in responding any more to your posts.

 

One man’s personal attack and hostility is another man’s valid but tough questioning. 

 

You may think it’s hostile for people to question you, but as long as the questions are fair there’s no problem at CA. Nobody gets a pass. There are no ministers of information. The fact that people are experienced or in the industry doesn’t mean they play by different rules. 

 

If people are scared away from CA because the questions are difficult and people don’t believe what they are saying, that’s life. 

 

If people are scared away because of real personal attacks, that’s another story. I look at every reported post and make a decision on how to proceed. Personal attacks are never allowed. The same rules apply to everyone. 

 

I’m amazed at what some people consider an attack. If the questions get hard or people are called out, they frequently report the post as a personal attack. 

 

We all need to remember this is just audio, not cancer research. Talk to someone who has survived cancer, who also follows this topic, and he’ll set your priorities straight. 

 

Yes, take the topic seriously because music is so critical to our lives. But don’t lose your shit and embarrass yourself over something that isn’t going to matter in the grand scheme of life. 

 

In addition, CA is the only site I know of where the OP can make the rules. You want objective only discussion? Fine. You want subjective only discussion? Fine.

 

It’s like we have our own smoking and nonsmoking sections (no comment about which camp is which).

 

Nobody should feel chased away from here or unwanted at CA, unless they fail to report comments that are against the rules. I put the onus on adults to act like adults. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

20 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said:

Bob Bob Bob Bobba Ann. Bob's your uncle...Bob oh Bob.

 

We’re you attempting to add something to the conversation?

[Lee Scoggins]

7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

One man’s personal attack and hostility is another man’s valid but tough questioning. 

 

You may think it’s hostile for people to question you, but as long as the questions are fair there’s no problem at CA. Nobody gets a pass. There are no ministers of information. The fact that people are experienced or in the industry doesn’t mean they play by different rules. 

 

If people are scared away from CA because the questions are difficult and people don’t believe what they are saying, that’s life. 

 

If people are scared away because of real personal attacks, that’s another story. I look at every reported post and make a decision on how to proceed. Personal attacks are never allowed. The same rules apply to everyone. 

 

I’m amazed at what some people consider an attack. If the questions get hard or people are called out, they frequently report the post as a personal attack. 

 

We all need to remember this is just audio, not cancer research. Talk to someone who has survived cancer, who also follows this topic, and he’ll set your priorities straight. 

 

Yes, take the topic seriously because music is so critical to our lives. But don’t lose your shit and embarrass yourself over something that isn’t going to matter in the grand scheme of life. 

 

In addition, CA is the only site I know of where the OP can make the rules. You want objective only discussion? Fine. You want subjective only discussion? Fine.

 

It’s like we have our own smoking and nonsmoking sections (no comment about which camp is which).

 

Nobody should feel chased away from here or unwanted at CA, unless they fail to report comments that are against the rules. I put the onus on adults to act like adults. 

 

While I agree with much of this Chris, there should be boundaries.  Earlier my competence as a consultant was questioned.  Given that my consulting work has no bearing on the discussion, why is this necessary? 

 

There should be a basic level of respect for participants...but to be honest I don’t see that being the case if you support elements of MQA.

[Fair Hedon]

3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

We’re you attempting to add something to the conversation?

Yes, that Lee and Bob are a on first name basis. But you know, Mr Scoggins is "neutral".

[Fair Hedon]

1 minute ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

While I agree with much of this Chris, there should be boundaries.  Earlier my competence as a consultant was questioned.  Given that my consulting work has no bearing on the discussion, why is this necessary? 

 

Ther should be a basic level of respect for participants...but to be honest I don’t see that being the case if you support elements of MQA.

Tunnel vision posters who are tone deaf should get no respect.

[Dr Tone]

11 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

Sorry, my shorthand for HDMusicStreaming.  The Cheskys are about to launch an all-MQA streaming site.

 

These one off MQA streaming sites mean nothing in the big picture.

[opus101]

6 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 Earlier my competence as a consultant was questioned.  Given that my consulting work has no bearing on the discussion, why is this necessary? 

 

Why not just ignore the irrelevancies if you find they're bothering you? You're showing on here you're perfectly OK about ignoring things which are highly pertinent. So what gives?

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said:

Tunnel vision posters who are tone deaf should get no respect.

 

Wrong. Everyone deserves respect as a person. Not points of view, but people deserve respect. 

 

If you have no respect for people, I have no time for you. Perhaps you just got a bit carried away?

[The Computer Audiophile]

8 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said:

Yes, that Lee and Bob are a on first name basis. But you know, Mr Scoggins is "neutral".

 

First name basis means nothing when we’re all discussing the same handful of people. 

[Fair Hedon]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Wrong. Everyone deserves respect as a person. Not points of view, but people deserve respect. 

 

If you have no respect for people, I have no time for you. Perhaps you just got a bit carried away?

Correct, people deserve respect. I am separating the respect people receive from their online personas.

I understand what you are getting at but I find it hard to respect trolls and posters are disingenuous.

 

 

[Fair Hedon]

2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

First name basis means nothing when we’re all discussing the same handful of people. 

Really?  I disagree, and numerous other posters have made fun of it. So, I am clearly not alone in this opinion.

[The Computer Audiophile]

10 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

While I agree with much of this Chris, there should be boundaries.  Earlier my competence as a consultant was questioned.  Given that my consulting work has no bearing on the discussion, why is this necessary? 

 

There should be a basic level of respect for participants...but to be honest I don’t see that being the case if you support elements of MQA.

There are boundaries of course. 

 

It’s tough to parse through this though. I see you listing your consulting competency and someone questioning that. A bit off topic but you brought it up and someone questioned it. If you brought it up to bolster people’s view of you or your opinions, then questioning it is fair game. Still off topic and not something that should continue long. 

 

I said its tough because I may have missed something relevant. Perhaps you didn’t bring it up. 

 

It it never hurts to fill me in with a little context when people report posts. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said:

Really?  I disagree, and numerous other posters have made fun of it. So, I am clearly not alone in this opinion.

 

Thats ok. We’ll disagree. I’m guessing there is more context to this. Perhaps posts from other sites and articles written. When I look at it as a first name in an MQA thread only, I say big deal. 

 

No worries though. We all come to this with different experiences. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

7 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said:

Correct, people deserve respect. I am separating the respect people receive from their online personas.

I understand what you are getting at but I find it hard to respect trolls and posters are disingenuous.

 

 

 

You’re walking a very fine line and splitting a hair that likely can’t be split. Separating Lee Scoggins the person from Lee Scoggins the user on CA is a bridge too far. Please focus on the opinions and arguments put forth, rather than the person, and all will be fine. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Is my Pro-MQA lashing going to start soon?

 

Thank you sir, may I have another :~)

[Fair Hedon]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Is my Pro-MQA lashing going to start soon?

 

Thank you sir, may I have another :~)

[Lee Scoggins]

19 minutes ago, Dr Tone said:

 

These one off MQA streaming sites mean nothing in the big picture.

 

We will see.  The Cheskys have a solid record of innovation in music and some street smarts in business.  HDTracks has been very successful.  I have known them since the early 90s and they are good people.

[Ralf11]

2 hours ago, BratStrangler said:

 

What’s a “record store”?

 

 

Exactly what it says - it is a server farm where they store recordings...

[rickca]

24 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

The Cheskys have a solid record of innovation in music and some street smarts in business.

So what's the business plan ... to steal customers away from TIDAL?  What will differentiate their streaming service?

[Lee Scoggins]

3 minutes ago, rickca said:

So what's the business plan ... to steal customers away from TIDAL?  What will differentiate their streaming service?

 

Not sure yet but I would guess there are three levers: price, user interface/experience, and music selection.

[Dr Tone]

23 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said:

 

Not sure yet but I would guess there are three levers: price, user interface/experience, and music selection.

 

Similar to HDTracks crappy web interface and ridiculous prices?  I’ll pass.

[opus101]

1 hour ago, Lee Scoggins said:

HDTracks has been very successful.  I have known them since the early 90s and they are good people.

 

FWIW, my customer service experience with them wasn't particularly positive.