firedog Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, mansr said: I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it. You mean you really think he died 48 years ago? Everyone knows he faked his death and is hanging out with Elvis and 100 year old JFK. Audiophile Neuroscience 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
WAM Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, mansr said: I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it. This exactly the reason I did not trust MQA from the beginning. I lack the technical knowledge most of you have, but if something is too good to be true... Link to comment
botrytis Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, WAM said: 57 minutes ago, mansr said: I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it. This exactly the reason I did not trust MQA from the beginning. I lack the technical knowledge most of you have, but if something is too good to be true... I am in the same boat. I can wax poetic about how beer, wine, whiskey are made to the point of boring another person to tears but this topic no. That is why I came here. To learn from people who know more that me. If anyone wants to wax poetic on that topic, let me know. I mean my PhD is in Botrytis biochemistry. We each have our little niches. The Computer Audiophile 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, mansr said: I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it. Me too. With Ray dead that only leaves Robby Kreiger and John Densmore to sign off. But don't let dead stop you from authenticating something. MrMoM 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Indydan Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 To keep things up to date, I am posting the chart in the main MQA forum. MQA "enthusiast" Reason for no longer posting on CA Peter Veth BANNED WitchDoctor BANNED Lee Scoggins SCARED of his BS being called out Michael Lavorgna BANNED for telling someone to go fuck his mother Peter Veth (as Peter Markus) BANNED for acting like a dick and being an MQA shill Jim Austin Had a little bit of a meltdown on CA Andy Schaub as Galileo365 Threw a hissy fit and quit just as he was about to be banned MikeyFresh and Rt66indierock 1 1 Link to comment
firedog Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, mansr said: I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it. Well to be fair, if Bruce Botnick signed off on the MQA version (which isn’t clear from the press release) that would have to count as fulfilling the “authenticity” aspect. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 should I boycott the new album, knowing that it is infested with MQA? Link to comment
mcgillroy Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Brinkman Ship said: Perhaps resurrection is just an unfold away?! Not sure if the content above 48k indeed doesn't matter and who knows what leaky filters do in the transcended realms, but hey Jim might be closer than we think. Link to comment
firedog Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Ralf11 said: should I boycott the new album, knowing that it is infested with MQA? If you are interested, I'd at least give it a listen on Tidal to see if you like it. What if the remaster actually sounds good? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post Ralf11 Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm not on Tidal - it's CD or nothing. Mordikai, MrMoM, Teresa and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Brinkman Ship Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: I'm not on Tidal - it's CD or nothing. Like the first two albums, there will likely be 24/192 downloads...no MQA infection... Link to comment
Dr Tone Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, firedog said: If you are interested, I'd at least give it a listen on Tidal to see if you like it. What if the remaster actually sounds good? I recommend hunting down the AFZ versions on CD. Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
gdpr Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 4:38 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: DATE: JUNE 26, 2018 CONTACT: JASON ELZY PHONE: 818-238-6220 E-MAIL: [email protected] ARTWORK: media.rhino.com THE DOORS WAITING FOR THE SUN 50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION 2-CD/1-LP Edition Of The Doors’ First #1 Album Features Newly Remastered Audio, Plus 14 Unreleased Studio and Live Recordings; Available September 14 From Rhino “Hello, I Love You” 7” Single To Be Released On August 3, 50 Years To The Day Of The Song Hitting Number One On The Billboard Singles Chart LOS ANGELES – The Doors released their third studio album, Waiting For The Sun, in July 1968. It was the band’s third platinum album in less than two years, and the first to top the album chart. Since its debut, the album has sold millions of copies around the globe and contributed to the Doors’ legendary canon with classics like “The Unknown Soldier,” “Five To One” and the #1 smash, “Hello, I Love You.” Rhino will commemorate the 50th anniversary of the album this year with WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION. This 2-CD/1-LP collection features a new version of the album’s original stereo mix on both CD and 180-gram vinyl LP, which has been newly remastered from the original master tapes by Bruce Botnick, the Doors’ longtime engineer/mixer. The set also includes a second disc of 14 completely unreleased tracks: nine recently discovered “rough mixes” from the album recording sessions and five live songs from a 1968 Copenhagen show. WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION will be available on September 14 for $49.98. The audio will also be available on digital download and streaming services. “Hello, I Love You” became the band’s second #1 hit when it topped the Billboard singles chart for two weeks beginning on August 3, 1968. Now, exactly 50 years later, Rhino will release a new 7” version of the single with its b-side “Love Street.” For this anniversary release, Rhino will use mono radio mixes of the songs that were given exclusively to radio stations for airplay in 1968. This version of “Hello, I Love You” was first available last year as part of The Singles CD collection and is making its vinyl debut here, while the “Love Street” mix is being released commercially for the first time. The 7” single will be available on August 3 for $9.98. Botnick’s newly remastered stereo mix of Waiting For The Sun adds new sonic dimensions to songs like “The Unknown Soldier” and “Spanish Caravan,” but that wasn’t his only contribution to the project. While going through his archive, he uncovered a cache of rough mixes from the sessions that hadn’t been played in 50 years. Botnick says: “I prefer some of these rough mixes to the finals, as they represent all of the elements and additional background vocals, different sensibilities on balances, and some intangible roughness, all of which are quite attractive and refreshing.” The deluxe edition of the album also features unreleased live recordings of five songs from the Doors’ September 17, 1968 concert in Copenhagen. The performance includes three songs from the band’s latest album – “Hello, I Love You,” “Five To One,” and “The Unknown Soldier” – plus the classics “Back Door Man” and “The WASP (Texas Radio And The Big Beat).” When the Doors recorded Waiting For The Sun in 1968, they were among the first bands to use Dolby A301 noise reduction processors, which was cutting-edge recording tech at the time. Similarly, the most advanced sound recording innovations were used to make the anniversary edition of Waiting For The Sun. The new release has been encoded with the MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) process. An MQA disc plays back on all CD players as standard CD quality. But if a conventional CD player is connected to an MQA-enabled device, it can play the same disc back at its original sample rate. In other Doors news, the band has reprinted their original 1968 Doors concert program for the first time, which will be available exclusively in The Doors webstore. This was the only official tour program ever created by the band. The program was originally produced for their 1968 U.S. tour but only sold at a few select shows and via mail order. Designed by Paul Ferrara, this 24-page program includes many color and black & white images taken by Ferrara, plus poetry by Jim Morrison, astrology charts for each band member, and more. For more information about THE DOORS, please contact Jason Elzy in the Rhino Media Relations Department at [email protected] or 818-238-6220. www.thedoors.com Pre-order now at the following links: Waiting For The Sun: 50th Anniversary Deluxe Edition https://rh-ino.co/wfts50 Hello I Love You 7” https://rh-ino.co/helloiloveyou WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION Track Listing Disc One “Hello, I Love You” “Love Street” “Not To Touch The Earth” “Summer’s Almost Gone” “Wintertime Love” “The Unknown Soldier” “Spanish Caravan” “My Wild Love” “We Could Be So Good Together” “Yes, The River Knows” “Five To One” Disc Two (All Tracks Previously Unreleased) Rough Mixes “Hello, I Love You” “Summer’s Almost Gone” “Yes, The River Knows” “Spanish Caravan” “Love Street” “Wintertime Love” “Not To Touch The Earth” “Five To One” “My Wild Love” Live In Copenhagen “The WASP (Texas Radio And The Big Beat)” “Hello, I Love You” “Back Door Man” “Five To One” “The Unknown Soldier” # # # The 50th anniversary verslons of the first 2 albums, The Doors and Strange Days, are available as hirez downloads both on HDtracks and Qobuz. I am convinced hirez - non-MQA - downloads of these new 50th anniversary verslons will soon be available there as well Link to comment
mansr Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ddetaey said: The 50th anniversary verslons of the first 2 albums, The Doors and Strange Days, are available as hirez downloads both on HDtracks and Qobuz. I am convinced hirez - non-MQA - downloads of these new 50th anniversary verslons will soon be available there as well This "box" set is hard to beat for value: https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/the-complete-studio-albums-the-doors/0603497933105 Brinkman Ship 1 Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, ddetaey said: I am convinced hirez - non-MQA - downloads of these new 50th anniversary verslons will soon be available there as well I am not interested but thanks for reminding me that it is time for me to rip these: Rt66indierock 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Brinkman Ship Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said: I am not interested but thanks for reminding me that it is time for me to rip these: You will enjoy the MC mixes on the DVD-As. The stereo RE-mixes are, eh, digital sounding. Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said: You will enjoy the MC mixes on the DVD-As. Yes. I have but it will be easier after I rip them. 56 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said: The stereo RE-mixes are, eh, digital sounding. OK. I never listen to stereo if there is a decent multichannel alternative. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I love that guy's videos. This one covers a subject a bit out of his comfort zone and it was pretty easy to see. Oh well. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post FredericV Posted June 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Pete-FIN said: I stopped here: first claim: false second claim: not proven third claim: false beetlemania and Currawong 2 Designer of the 432 EVO music server and Linux specialist Discoverer of the independent open source sox based mqa playback method with optional one cycle postringing. Link to comment
mjb Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I actually think Techmoan's video is pretty good, and he touches on how difficult (and expensive) it is to play them. But I think his conclusion that MQA CDs are "richer, fuller, deeper, wider" is questionable given that Brothers in Arms was originally recorded and mixed at 16/44.1. Obviously levels or some DSP voodoo is playing with the output. Link to comment
mjb Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/27/2018 at 7:25 AM, Ralf11 said: I'm not on Tidal - it's CD or nothing. Same here. There are some fantastic second hand CD deals around these days too, thanks to the popularity of streaming I presume. Teresa 1 Link to comment
Summit Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/27/2018 at 7:25 AM, Ralf11 said: I'm not on Tidal - it's CD or nothing. Okay it clarifies your stand on computer audio. Audiophile Neuroscience 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted June 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, FredericV said: I stopped here: first claim: false second claim: not proven third claim: false I'd say all three are false. FredericV and beetlemania 1 1 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Summit said: Okay it clarifies your stand on computer audio. I use computer audio - not clear what you mean by a "stand" Link to comment
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