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8 minutes ago, mansr said:

I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it.

 

You mean you really think he died 48 years ago? Everyone knows he faked his death and is hanging out with Elvis and 100 year old JFK.

Main listening (small home office):

Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments.

Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three .

Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup.
Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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   57 minutes ago,  mansr said: 

 I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it.

 

This exactly the reason I did not trust MQA from the beginning. I lack the technical knowledge  most of you have, but if something is too good to be true...

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30 minutes ago, WAM said:
   57 minutes ago,  mansr said: 

 I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it.

 

This exactly the reason I did not trust MQA from the beginning. I lack the technical knowledge  most of you have, but if something is too good to be true...

 I am in the same boat. I can wax poetic about how beer, wine, whiskey are made to the point of boring another person to tears but this topic no. That is why I came here. To learn from people who know more that me.

 

If anyone wants to wax poetic on that topic, let me know. I mean my PhD is in Botrytis biochemistry. We each have our little niches.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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2 hours ago, mansr said:

I'd like to know how they got Jim Morrison to sign off on it.

Well to be fair, if Bruce Botnick signed off on the MQA version (which isn’t clear from the press release) that would have to count as fulfilling the “authenticity” aspect. 

Main listening (small home office):

Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments.

Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three .

Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup.
Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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10 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

should I boycott the new album, knowing that it is infested with MQA?

If you are interested, I'd at least give it a listen on Tidal to see if you like it. What if the remaster actually sounds good?

Main listening (small home office):

Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments.

Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three .

Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup.
Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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8 hours ago, firedog said:

If you are interested, I'd at least give it a listen on Tidal to see if you like it. What if the remaster actually sounds good?

 

I recommend hunting down the AFZ versions on CD.

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On 6/26/2018 at 4:38 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

 

DATE: JUNE 26, 2018

CONTACT: JASON ELZY

PHONE: 818-238-6220

E-MAIL: [email protected]

ARTWORK: media.rhino.com

 

THE DOORS WAITING FOR THE SUN

50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION

 

2-CD/1-LP Edition Of The Doors’ First #1 Album Features Newly
Remastered Audio, Plus 14 Unreleased Studio and Live Recordings;

Available September 14 From Rhino

 

“Hello, I Love You” 7” Single To Be Released On August 3, 50 Years

To The Day Of The Song Hitting Number One On The Billboard Singles Chart

 

LOS ANGELES – The Doors released their third studio album, Waiting For The Sun, in July 1968. It was the band’s third platinum album in less than two years, and the first to top the album chart. Since its debut, the album has sold millions of copies around the globe and contributed to the Doors’ legendary canon with classics like “The Unknown Soldier,” “Five To One” and the #1 smash, “Hello, I Love You.”

 

Rhino will commemorate the 50th anniversary of the album this year with WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION. This 2-CD/1-LP collection features a new version of the album’s original stereo mix on both CD and 180-gram vinyl LP, which has been newly remastered from the original master tapes by Bruce Botnick, the Doors’ longtime engineer/mixer. The set also includes a second disc of 14 completely unreleased tracks: nine recently discovered “rough mixes” from the   album recording sessions and five live songs from a 1968 Copenhagen show. WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION will be available on September 14 for $49.98. The audio will also be available on digital download and streaming services.

 

“Hello, I Love You” became the band’s second #1 hit when it topped the Billboard singles chart for two weeks beginning on August 3, 1968. Now, exactly 50 years later, Rhino will release a new 7” version of the single with its b-side “Love Street.” For this anniversary release, Rhino will use mono radio mixes of the songs that were given exclusively to radio stations for airplay in 1968. This version of “Hello, I Love You” was first available last year as part of The Singles CD collection and is making its vinyl debut here, while the “Love Street” mix is being released commercially for the first time. The 7” single will be available on August 3 for $9.98.

 

Botnick’s newly remastered stereo mix of Waiting For The Sun adds new sonic dimensions to songs like “The Unknown Soldier” and “Spanish Caravan,” but that wasn’t his only contribution to the project. While going through his archive, he uncovered a cache of rough mixes from the sessions that hadn’t been played in 50 years. Botnick says: “I prefer some of these rough mixes to the finals, as they represent all of the elements and additional background vocals, different sensibilities on balances, and some intangible roughness, all of which are quite attractive and refreshing.”

 

The deluxe edition of the album also features unreleased live recordings of five songs from the Doors’ September 17, 1968 concert in Copenhagen. The performance includes three songs from the band’s latest album – “Hello, I Love You,” “Five To One,” and “The Unknown Soldier” – plus the classics “Back Door Man” and “The WASP (Texas Radio And The Big Beat).”

 

When the Doors recorded Waiting For The Sun in 1968, they were among the first bands to use Dolby A301 noise reduction processors, which was cutting-edge recording tech at the time. Similarly, the most advanced sound recording innovations were used to make the anniversary edition of Waiting For The Sun. The new release has been encoded with the MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) process. An MQA disc plays back on all CD players as standard CD quality. But if a conventional CD player is connected to an MQA-enabled device, it can play the same disc back at its original sample rate.

 

In other Doors news, the band has reprinted their original 1968 Doors concert program for the first time, which will be available exclusively in The Doors webstore. This was the only official tour program ever created by the band. 

 

The program was originally produced for their 1968 U.S. tour but only sold at a few select shows and via mail order. Designed by Paul Ferrara, this 24-page program includes many color and black & white images taken by Ferrara, plus poetry by Jim Morrison, astrology charts for each band member, and more.

 

For more information about THE DOORS, please contact Jason Elzy in the Rhino Media Relations Department at [email protected] or 818-238-6220.

 

www.thedoors.com

 

Pre-order now at the following links:

Waiting For The Sun: 50th Anniversary Deluxe Edition https://rh-ino.co/wfts50

Hello I Love You 7” https://rh-ino.co/helloiloveyou

 

WAITING FOR THE SUN: 50th ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION

Track Listing

 

Disc One

  1. “Hello, I Love You”
  2. “Love Street”
  3. “Not To Touch The Earth”
  4. “Summer’s Almost Gone”
  5. “Wintertime Love”
  6. “The Unknown Soldier”
  7. “Spanish Caravan”
  8. “My Wild Love”
  9. “We Could Be So Good Together”
  10. “Yes, The River Knows”
  11. “Five To One”

 

Disc Two (All Tracks Previously Unreleased)

Rough Mixes

  1. “Hello, I Love You”
  2. “Summer’s Almost Gone”
  3. “Yes, The River Knows”
  4. “Spanish Caravan”
  5. “Love Street”
  6. “Wintertime Love”
  7. “Not To Touch The Earth”
  8. “Five To One”
  9. “My Wild Love”

 

Live In Copenhagen

  1. “The WASP (Texas Radio And The Big Beat)”
  2. “Hello, I Love You”
  3. “Back Door Man”
  4. “Five To One”
  5. “The Unknown Soldier”

 

 

# # #

Pack Shot Doors_WaitingForTheSun_Deluxe.jpeg

WFTS Cover art.jpeg

 

The 50th anniversary verslons of the first  2 albums, The Doors and Strange Days, are available as hirez downloads both on HDtracks and Qobuz.

I am convinced hirez - non-MQA - downloads of these new 50th anniversary verslons will soon  be available there as well

 

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1 hour ago, ddetaey said:

The 50th anniversary verslons of the first  2 albums, The Doors and Strange Days, are available as hirez downloads both on HDtracks and Qobuz.

I am convinced hirez - non-MQA - downloads of these new 50th anniversary verslons will soon  be available there as well

This "box" set is hard to beat for value:

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/the-complete-studio-albums-the-doors/0603497933105

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55 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

You will enjoy the MC mixes on the DVD-As.

Yes.  I have but it will be easier after I rip them.

56 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

The stereo RE-mixes are, eh, digital sounding.

OK.  I never listen to stereo if there is a decent multichannel alternative.

Kal Rubinson

Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile

 

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I actually think Techmoan's video is pretty good, and he touches on how difficult (and expensive) it is to play them. But I think his conclusion that MQA CDs are "richer, fuller, deeper, wider" is questionable given that Brothers in Arms was originally recorded and mixed at 16/44.1. Obviously levels or some DSP voodoo is playing with the output.

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