MQA is Vaporware

[yahooboy]

23 hours ago, rickca said:

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/qnx-ces-2019

https://www.mqa.co.uk/news/post/jvckenwood-announcement

Sad,

Had just ordered a Kenwood receiver, which is now cancelled.

 

Have to start looking for another

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, yahooboy said:

Sad,

Had just ordered a Kenwood receiver, which is now cancelled.

 

Have to start looking for another

Anyone having a recommendation for a car receiver ? 1DIN

[yahooboy]

On 11/29/2019 at 2:30 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Seems strange to me. 

 

Not really, You've got to remember where ROON came from (Meridian) there might be very positive feelings toward the former employee

[yahooboy]

23 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Meridian was just a stop between the founding of Sooloos and the start of Roon. 
 

Strange in that the MQA piece has nothing to do with Roon Radio. 

 

Well they seem very defendant regarding MQA, had writings back and forth with them on several occasions.

They either don't understand MQA (highly unlikely) or they are so much in bed with MQA that they have to/or feel they have to market a scam (probably a part of the contract.)

 

They won't enable a sorting of MQA and non MQA files. They are deleting posts on their site that badmouths MQA, in general they do not like anyone questioning MQA

 

I cancelled My sub due to their stand on MQA

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, daverich4 said:

There are lots of anti MQA posts in the Roon forums including long threads with @Danny (Roon COO) going toe to toe with the anti MQA members there. I have no knowledge if some individual posts are being deleted but @Danny would have the authority to remove posts and as far as I can tell, doesn’t generally seem to have the policy of doing so. 

 

Well I've noticed quite a few threads (mentioning MQA) that seem strangely incoherent, as if several posts are missing......

[yahooboy]

23 minutes ago, rn701 said:

Trying to decide between Tidal and Qobuz. Currently have both. The Qobuz price reduction is tempting, but you give up Tidal's personalized playlists and their auto play of similar artists (which is overcome with roon but not using native apps).

 

But I do not want MQA. In Tidal's app, I can set the upper limit to 'hi-fi'. If I set this, it still shows MQA selections. If I accidentally select one, or if there is only an MQA version, what do I get if I have the limit set to hi-fi and I play it? Do I get an unmolested cd quality file, or some kind of unfolded mqa containerized file?

Sadly the last one🤮

[yahooboy]

Was just looking up the terms of using the FLAC container:

 

What FLAC is not:

Lossy. FLAC is intended for lossless compression only, as there are many good lossy formats already, such as Vorbis, MPC, and MP3 (see LAMEfor an excellent open-source implementation).

DRM. There is no intention to add any copy prevention methods. Of course, we can't stop someone from encrypting a FLAC stream in another container (e.g. the way Apple encrypts AAC in MP4 with FairPlay), that is the choice of the user.

 

Seems to me that someone has not read these terms.

 

Have written to Monty Alexander of Xiph.org to get his two cents

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, sandyk said:

 

 My understanding is that the team from HiFi Critic magazine also attended this show, and the only report back I have seen from one of their forum members didn't even mention MQA.

 I will see if I can find out more.

Alex

They not only promote it they also haven't found out it's not lossless, as of the 19th.2020.

As a HiFi publication I find that a bit embarrassing 

 

MQA (hi-res): A lossless compression format that packages hi-res files for more efficient streaming. Used for Tidal Masters hi-res streaming.

 

https://www.whathifi.com/advice/mp3-aac-wav-flac-all-the-audio-file-formats-explained

[yahooboy]

On 3/27/2020 at 4:08 AM, ARQuint said:

 

I am almost sure that 2L is doing just fine.

 

The above comment reminds me of Donald Trump perpetually referring to "The failing New York Times" because the paper says things he doesn't like.

 

The New York Times is doing just fine, too, in case anybody had doubts. At least I'm almost sure.

Well if You consider a result before taxes going from 264K NOK in 2015 declining to 49K in 2019 doing just fine, then You're right 

[yahooboy]

Well we are all wrong

MQA IS LOSSLESS (Well at least to MQA's marketing)

We are just stupid not to accept Bob's "facts

[yahooboy]

10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Wow, alternative facts. 

Well it's out there in spades, licensees that keeps promoting the third unfold etc.

 

[yahooboy]

4 hours ago, KeenObserver said:

The FLAC container is a lossless system.  The MQA file inside is lossy.  And corrupts the original music, no matter what Bob says. 

 

I hope we are not seeing a resurgence of the MQA BS.  My hip boots are in storage.

The xiph.org site states:

• FLAC should be lossless. This seems obvious but lossy compression seems to creep into every audio codec. This goal also means that flacshould stay archival quality and be truly lossless for all input. Testing of releases should be thorough.

How can MQA then wrap a lossy file inside without xiph reacting ?

[yahooboy]

On 11/18/2020 at 7:47 PM, MikeyFresh said:

Exactly, and when Warner's albums have little stream revenue to show for all of this BS, this little experiment will have failed miserably, but that does require dropping the TIDAL subscription entirely.

They went out the toilet the day their customer"service" told Me that MQA was indeed lossless

[yahooboy]

On 11/19/2020 at 5:34 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I was sick and tired of all this tracking business and the tracking companies tracking what I tracked, so I got rid of it all here on AS. I don't want to be tracked, so I can't in good conscience track you guys who make this community what it is. 

 

P.S. I also love to see this in the new Safari. I encourage people to go to other sites and see what's being collected about them. 

 

We just need You to abandon googleapis (Google promises that they are not using their API's to track - and MQA is lossless🤮)

[yahooboy]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

No Google APIs in use here.

 

[yahooboy]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Refresh now. Let me know if it's still there. 

👍🏻

 

All gone Thank You

[yahooboy]

On 11/20/2020 at 5:47 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Here are some pieces of information.

 

 

Funny how they always want to do things on the phone. Have been in touch with them several times. As soon as they have to write ANYTHING that is beyond marketing script they either go silent or want to do it on the phone. Funnily they do not want You to record the conversation.

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, firedog said:

Again, please go back and figure out how MQA works. You keep participating here without understanding the basics. You are welcome to participate, but it would be more useful if you didn't require the rest of us to continually correct basic lack of knowldedge.

TC was recorded in 1987 and labelled DDD, so not in hi-res. AFAIK, recorded digitally for CD and never around in a hi-res remaster: So either your setup is set to upsample without your knowledge, or MQA is using a non "authentic" hi-res master (that can only be an upsample) that they can then unfold to fake 24/88 (b/c there is no true 24.88 MQA).

Well You have to remember that MQA has MAGIC they took a Madonna Album recorded in 14 bit, mixed it on an analog mixer digitized it in 24 bit. Hey presto we have a 24 bit master🤮

[yahooboy]

1 hour ago, IT Freak said:

  

When starting from a 352.8k file
MQA's starts encoding not from 88.2k but from at least 176.4k 
as that sample rate is needed for the frequencies up to 88.2k 

At least that is what they are telling us.

You saved it on the last line.

What they actually lie to us about is that they keep the frequencies up to 44k/48k, samples them at 88/96k (another lie) 

 

[yahooboy]

5 hours ago, IT Freak said:

Gaëlle Solal : Tuhu : "MQA-CD" so it should be 16bit :

Buy the flacs and decompress them to WAV.

Exactly what do You mean when saying "decompress", what software is used?

[yahooboy]

On 12/16/2020 at 3:47 AM, wklie said:

 

This is by design.

 

1. With a non-MQA DAC, Roon correctly outputs 24/88.2kHz.

 

2. If you set in Roon your DAC as a MQA Renderer only, you force Roon to do MQA Core decoding, Roon correctly outputs 24/88.2kHz.  Your MQA Renderer correctly displays (not outputs) 44.1kHz.

 

3. If you set it as MQA Decoder + Renderer, in the absence of Roon DSP, volume leveling and multi-zone grouping, Roon will correctly leave the MQA signal unchanged.  This is similar to "MQA Passthrough" in Tidal desktop app.  Your MQA DAC displays (not outputs) 44.1kHz.

 

Part of the complication comes with Roon support for different types of MQA hardware, along with different users' needs for DSP, volume leveling and multi-zone playback.

Peter, You forgot one thing......

All of the above is pure marketing regurgitation.

1. We have never seen evidence of this being the correct output

2. Please show that any "decoding is going on - i.e. that it's not just an upsampling

3.Well this does depend heavily on what's in the "embedded" flags - no

All in all none of this has been shown beyond MQA marketing - which You are a part of.

[yahooboy]

According to this post by one of the moderators https://en.deezercommunity.com/other-devices-49/high-quality-and-mqa-293?postid=180728#post180728

 

Deezer is not implementing MQA any time soon (even though they partnered with MQA back in 2017)

It seems however that they are looking into doing something with ROON

 

 

[yahooboy]

On 3/9/2021 at 2:42 AM, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Either Atkinson has no integrity, or he is obsessed with giving MQA as many mentions as he possibly can before he rides off into the sunset.  Pathetic, and sad. I would not buy a box of paperclips based on his recommendation.

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/grimm-audio-mu1-music-streamer

 

It's called working on commission 

[yahooboy]

11 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Remember this part of the story Kevin? The fraudulent claim that MQA was lossless. 
 

The same fraudulent claim that they keep on repeating on their website

[yahooboy]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I would absolutely be terrible if people started using this as the MQA logo. 

 

Isn't it a bit harsh to reference Qanon ?😁