Popular Post Phil Baker Posted January 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 Neil Young removes his music from Tidal. https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Tidal-Misleading-Listeners and refers to this forum sphinxsix, #Yoda#, KeenObserver and 14 others 8 6 3 Link to comment
Phil Baker Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Alternate link is www.neilyoungarchives.com UkPhil 1 Link to comment
Phil Baker Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 New story posted today. Try linking to front page www.neilyongarchives.com Link to comment
Popular Post Phil Baker Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 The MQA videos are posted on Neil Young Archives at https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/6 with appreciation given to GoldenEar. Neil pulled all his albums from Tidal earlier this year because they referred to them as Masters. He's written extensively about how MQA is trying to solve a problem that no longer exists and risks the future of audio recording by trying to redefine and sow confusion about what a hi-res master is. Currawong, Jeff_N, maxijazz and 10 others 11 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Phil Baker Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 To those comparing Tidal with MQA and Qobuz, this is simple to understand and not at all complex. It's right in front of our eyes. 1. Qobuz and other true hi-res services deliver the original artists' master files at 192/24 in the open lossless FLAC standard. It's as close to what the artist created as anything that exists. 2. Tidal w/ MQA manipulates/processes/modifies the artists' master files. They then call these files Tidal Masters, usurping the definition of what a master file really is. Furthermore, to create these imitation masters, MQA charges the record companies and the customer for the manipulation. In one case you get the authentic original in an open lossless format. In the other case you get a manipulated version in a proprietary format. MQA was originally invented as a way to reduce the size of the file when data transmission and memory costs were high, a worthwhile purpose. But, these costs have plummeted, so now there is no good reason for MQA. AudioDoctor, Currawong, dericchan1 and 9 others 10 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Phil Baker Posted January 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2022 Whether a sample of people can hear the difference or not is immaterial. I have friends that can't tell the difference between an inexpensive bottle of wine and something much more expensive. I personally can't tell the difference between an 8000 line HDTV and a 4000 line set. But I wouldn't want to deprive those that can. There will be a small number of experts with trained ears or palates that can tell the difference. There always are in any category. You just can't prove the opposite based on some experiement. But in reality, none of this matters, because of a more important argument: MQA is a product of lower quality (think cheaper wine, 1000 line HDTV) that is trying to convince others it is actually better and should cost more. MikeyFresh, UkPhil, rex4539 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Phil Baker Posted January 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Ryan Berry said: There's a lot of moving parts at play here that make comparative studies extraordinarily difficult compared to comparing other formats, not the least of which has been the obvious alteration of tracks to sound more impressive for reviewers when MQA was pitching their technology. There was some uncomfortable shuffling when we let them know we have a copy of the original master files from our connections that we were going to use for A-B listening tests. I felt this was even more to test appropriate at Ayre as we were already using a Minimum Phase filter in our products for years at that point, so there was less chance of being "wow'd" by introducing the filter into a product that may otherwise not have one when switching over to MQA mode. I can say that I have yet to hear a single track offered in MQA format that sounds anything like the the equivalent high-rez version from the same album. I don't know if I've been unfortunate and just picked tracks at random that happen to have had a heavy remastering hand or had something go horribly wrong in the conversion process, but I can spot them instantly as they all suffer from sounding overly bass-inflated and lacking the same level of detail to my ears. At best, it was "better MP3" to us. I can also say that I've ran into accidentally listening to a MQA track enough times at this point where I only had to look at the file playing after the first 10-15 seconds to confirm it was one that snuck into a playlist on me in Tidal to feel confident that it's not a case of listener's bias at play. Listening to the non-MQA version easily confirms this. Similarly, artists who don't have the "Master" tag, such as Shawn Colvin, never seems to suffer from the same issue. Why the McGill study find differently, I'm interested in looking into. The differences were so stark, frankly, that I really haven't followed up much on what others have found since as I expected it would be obvious to any listener as tracks became more available and more companies continue to adopt a similar Minimum Phase filter as an option. I would trust Ryan before I'd trust any group of listeners. Ayre makes some of the world's finest audio equipment. rex4539, #Yoda#, beetlemania and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
Phil Baker Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, dericchan1 said: True but more importantly you should simply trust your ears!!! I tried a brief 15 min session of mqa just to test the functionality of my dac and not going back to it ever Not if I'm trying to expand my capabilities, skills and knowledge. I learn from experts in all fields. Link to comment
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