MQA is Vaporware

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Not a lot of talk about hifi going on here these days...It turns the innocents off you know.

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Im sat here comparing a Meridian Ultra DAC through Wilsons and an 818v3 through same and also Meridian speakers. MQA is great, I suspect you need fast/highbandwidth amps(whatever they are) as per the new Meridian power amps and the SE speaker amps (same thing) to get the full effect. Nice to discuss what's needed along those lines (are valve amps fast?) and what other factors affect the full appreciation. Excuse my language but chat about that would be much more interesting than the eternal (Crenca) bitching that goes on here... Back to the listening... Tracks vary significantly in how much improvement MQA brings, why is that? Sorry to interrupt the bitching. Back to it lads!

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This is one of hundreds of active threads here. I admit there might be a "car crash" effect going on here: Even disinterested people will slow down and gawk.

 

But I'm not buying that this back-and-forth is really offensive to the delicate sensibilities of some here. If it was spilling into other threads, I would understand. I think a lot of the complaints of incivility (excepting of course the principals in the debate, which I am not one :-) are proxies for something else.

 

I use "what's new" to see what going on, it gets tiresome when it's bitching rather than hifi. Delicate sensibilities? Yawn, this is just boring, offensive might be more interesting. Egos? Not so interesting.

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5 hours ago, Spacehound said:

MQA is a total scam from beginning to end.

 

In the UK, its home country, an analysis such as yours could be sent to the 'Advertising Standards Authority',  they would have it checked out, and  if correct they then would  prevent it from being advertised, promoted, and  with the help of the  'Weights and Measures' department,  sold.

But they are not allowed to instigate such actions themselves. And nobody has yet bothered to report MQA, with evidence. (It's deliberately  a lot of paperwork to discourage spurious reports, and to get them started it's best to have several  independent objectors each  supplying  evidence from separate sources,)

I'm afraid your MQA hate storm isn't of much interest to the real world. But absolutely, jail them and bring back hanging, concentration camps anyone? Make MQA a crime. What a farce, have you lot really nothing better to do? School yard bullies, who's going to be next when you've done with MQA?

 

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My impression is that people come out of the woodwork with a desire to do it down. They do a fantastic job! I suppose it depends on your point of view.

 

It's when the detractors start threatening those with different opinions its gets a bit murky..don't you think crenca?

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31 minutes ago, Paul R said:

 

Yep - have to rush right out there and correct every opinion you think is wrong - on the internet? 

 

God Bless your little heart.... (grin) 

 

 

A journey of a thousand miles...

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4 hours ago, Rt66indierock said:

we are going to keep the pressure on MQA and see what breaks. And I want it crystal clear to anyone considering streaming MQA that there will be bad publicity at their launch

Wow, a lot of hate there. Thanks goodness there's some people out there protecting the public against this evil. Any other evils you lot conspire against?

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It takes all sorts to make the world go round even lickspittles. Everyone should have the opportunity to make fools of themselves but more importantly to have a voice, irritating or otherwise...

 

If a wise man talks to a fool, he becomes yet wiser.

 

So I've said my piece.

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5 minutes ago, Shadders said:

It is a complete and utter abortion of a scheme.

Sounds great though! (probably irrelevant, sorry to interrupt)

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16 minutes ago, Shadders said:

If it is an MQA only future

Bands are typically rebellious. Easy enough to facilitate (non MQA) downloads to fans, printing CDs is easy, not rocket science. Kate Bush sells her own stuff.

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46 minutes ago, Paul R said:

this wonderful place dragged down with it

 

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19 hours ago, John Dyson said:

it is more of an issue that those who are technically competent know what the MQA thing is going to lead to if it is universally adopted

 

19 hours ago, John Dyson said:

The mumbo-jumbo being espoused by the advocacy should be considered either specious or manipulative.

 

Nice balanced view there thanks, soothsayers and know alls. Opinion.

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2 hours ago, KeenObserver said:

my resolve to resist MQA

Curious, what does resist mean? Campaign against?

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Flower in the desert Paul.

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9 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

As others have stated, this is the thread that keeps on giving. I can see the MQA supporters huddling now. 

 

“OK your turn.”

”Hell no, you first.”

”Alright send the new guy in to defend MQA.”

I see it exactly the other way (on fora in general), "they" take it in turns to bash MQA, send someone over to Roon, keep that thread alive (MQA hate). As much is said here "maybe the other fora need NEW members". To me, it's a conspiracy against MQA. Nothing new comes out but it's just re-hashed for the purpose of the Campaign. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Shadders said:

Lee never answered a question, whose answer would have shown what he was saying was incorrect, and hence MQA is a scam.

Why does what Lee say have to do with MQA being a scam? A bit of a leap there..

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Sorry, what Lee says has nothing to do with MQA being a scam or not. There's no logic there. For me MQA isn't a "scam". I have a different understanding of the word. 

 

So if Lee said something different, MQA wouldn't be a scam? This sort of thing is the reason the debate has become what it has.

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1 minute ago, Jud said:

Yes, we all get our marching orders from the shadowy figures who make millions from FLAC compression

Or like minded people effectively carry out a campaign because they want to (or any number of other reasons), who brought money into it?

 

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42 minutes ago, Shadders said:

I never stated Lee has anything to do with MQA.

Well that's where we started! I quoted you. Re-read this if you need to. 

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31 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Understanding what MQA is, as per the proof in this thread, is not the same as Lee has something to do with MQA

Read where I quoted you.

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34 minutes ago, mansr said:

I think Lee's replacement has arrived.

And the schoolyard gang is called out... one by one...

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31 minutes ago, Jud said:

That isn't what "conspiracy" means. Re-read what you posted if you need to.

 

32 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

I've re-read twice and your comment doesn't make sense. 

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This is what CA has become... what a shame.

 

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13 minutes ago, Jud said:

Hope now that I've explained this using simple words, it makes sense to you. Still maintain there's an anti-MQA conspiracy here, where we all meet and plan this in advance?

Nope, sorry I have no idea what you're going on about. I'll re read it though. (or you could put you point in one sentence)

 

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24 minutes ago, Jud said:

please provide pertinent technical arguments

Is that a requirement? Some things don't have numbers attached