sphinxsix Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You're right - just kidding.. But thread title like this can be justified sooner than you think. After all Mr. Wilson usually leads the way.. New Wilson Audio flagship model - WAMM Master Chronosonic. The price.? Higher than this.? Hiiigher than thiiisss..?! $685,000/pair to be exact. I'm pretty sure next December the choice of $600k+ speakers will be much bigger than now. So I'll be back with the thread. I promise. http://www.stereophile.com/content/wilson-audios-ultimate-loudspeaker-wamm-master-chronosonic#pEq7ahI7v9cFPy17.97 Link to comment
Jud Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Is "Chronosonic" meant to refer to time or "chronic"? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jesus Montana Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The SKNR-sonic offers a whole room listening experience that promises to be more directly rewarding than anything currently on the market. Only $599,999.99 Archimago = R E A L Z O D I A K Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 May sound great, however on the Nombe Watanabe WAF rating chart, which is a numeric 1 to 10 scale, these rate a minus 3. Butt ugly! ps: no Wilson speaker has ever scored more than 3.5. In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Can I drive it with a SET? Link to comment
Foggie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 may sound great, however on the nombe watanabe waf rating chart, which is a numeric 1 to 10 scale, these rate a minus 3. Butt ugly! Ps: No wilson speaker has ever scored more than 3.5. Well for a fraction of the price, just stack a couple floor standers and then some bookshelves at the top and wala! My rig Link to comment
4est Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You're right - just kidding.. Wilson Audio's Ultimate Loudspeaker: the WAMM Master Chronosonic | Stereophile.com yawn... Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
r_w Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 These (ATC SCM300 ASLT) are the best speakers I've heard at any price and they are circa £40k which includes all of the amps (8 x mono) and active crossovers (shown in the image) . I used to have my tunes mastered on the 300ASL PRO (exact same speaker but with horizontal woofer config)... I cannot tell you how good these things are. I doubt there is much better at any price and plenty nowhere near as good for for many times the price. ;-) Source: *Aurender N100 (no internal disk : LAN optically isolated via FMC with *LPS) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch - split for *LPS) > Intona Industrial (injected *LPS / internally shielded with copper tape) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > W4S Recovery (*LPS) > DIY 2cm USB adaptor (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > *Auralic VEGA (EXACT : balanced) Control: *Jeff Rowland CAPRI S2 (balanced) Playback: 2 x Revel B15a subs (balanced) > ATC SCM 50 ASL (balanced - 80Hz HPF from subs) Misc: *Via Power Inspired AG1500 AC Regenerator LPS: 3 x Swagman Lab Audiophile Signature Edition (W4S, Intona & FMC) Storage: QNAP TS-253Pro 2x 3Tb, 8Gb RAM Cables: DIY heavy gauge solid silver (balanced) Mains: dedicated distribution board with 5 x 2 socket ring mains, all mains cables: Mark Grant Black Series DSP 2.5 Dual Screen Link to comment
mansr Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Is "Chronosonic" meant to refer to time or "chronic"? The word "chronic" refers to time. Link to comment
Jud Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The word "chronic" refers to time. I know. Bad habits as well. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
PhilR Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 "Build it and they will come." What do you think is the actual production cost of a statement/vanity speaker like this? $200,000? $20,000? Synology DS1515+ > PS Audio P10 > Innuos Zenith Mk II running Roon Core > IsoRegen/LPS-1 > Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 > Tekton Double Impact Speakers Link to comment
wgscott Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 They really go well with the tasteful drapes. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 They really go well with the tasteful drapes.IMO They need a real visual design team not the one that draws inspiration from one of these: If I owned them I'd probably keep the lights down in the listening room. They don't look that bad when you ..don't see them.. Link to comment
Jud Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 IMO They need a real visual design team not the one that draws inspiration from one of these: If I owned them I'd probably keep the lights down in the listening room. They don't look that bad when you ..don't see them.. That last picture isn't bad - the Deathstar look kinda suits them. Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 They really go well with the tasteful drapes. the speakers really tie the room together Link to comment
odelay Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Next month, we are moving into a 19m2 Helsinki apartment. It's unfinished, so we are wondering what to get for it. We were considering a bed, but maybe this is what it's missing? [emoji848] Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile TF cards - USB -> GentooPlayer in RAM on Rpi4b, Ian’s PurePi II, FIFO Q7, HDMI-pro -> Audio GD R-27 -> S.A.T. Infinity monoblocks -> Gallo Stradas + TR-3 sub / Erzetich Phobos Link to comment
witchdoctor Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You're right - just kidding.. But thread title like this can be justified sooner than you think. After all Mr. Wilson usually leads the way.. New Wilson Audio flagship model - WAMM Master Chronosonic. The price.? Higher than this.? Hiiigher than thiiisss..?! $685,000/pair to be exact. I'm pretty sure next December the choice of $600k+ speakers will be much bigger than now. So I'll be back with the thread. I promise. Wilson Audio's Ultimate Loudspeaker: the WAMM Master Chronosonic | Stereophile.com I'll put 10 smaller Wilson speakers in an Auro 3D setup that will give that pair a run for the money. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'm glad Wilson is pushing the envelope and trying to improve (some aspects of) speaker design. While not for everybody - or not for every billionaire - what they are putting R&D into today will be available in a few years for less. Link to comment
cjf Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 An engineering marvel in terms of speaker design, no doubt. That system in the pics is probably pushing close to a $1mil, and that's just the stuff that's in view! I bet a few Quaaludes and a bottle of wine will make anything sound the same as these at a fraction of the price My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Next month, we are moving into a 19m2 Helsinki apartment. It's unfinished, so we are wondering what to get for it. We were considering a bed, but maybe this is what it's missing? Helsinki? I would worry more about improving my Russian language skills than speaker placement! In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
odelay Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Haha! ... indeed many things for us to fret about... perhaps a luxury of poverty? I guess there are some Russians in Helsinki, but it might be more useful to speak Finish, no? Or do you happen to know some Russians selling such speakers cheap? [emoji2] ... I've always been rather partial to horns... wonder if the ceiling is high enough for these? [ATTACH]31743[/ATTACH] Another bargain speaker I've taken a liking to are these: At just Only some £450k! Even cheaper than the Wilsons! Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile TF cards - USB -> GentooPlayer in RAM on Rpi4b, Ian’s PurePi II, FIFO Q7, HDMI-pro -> Audio GD R-27 -> S.A.T. Infinity monoblocks -> Gallo Stradas + TR-3 sub / Erzetich Phobos Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 [ATTACH]31746[/ATTACH] Only some £450k! Even cheaper than the Wilsons! They look better than WHAMM MC but I'm afraid they are too cheap to be any good. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 I actually had some pretty serious reflections while posting this thread. Anybody remember the original WAMM from the early 80s? I'm sorry but I can't resist to post one more photo Their price was $32k and probably the only speakers competing in this category back then were Infinity IRS and Levinson HQD ($29k and $24k). BTW in 1982 the price for the WAMM system increased to $35k and then in 1983 to $42k (by 1990 25 WAMMs has been sold). But that's not my main point. In the mid 90s one had to pay about $60k for the 'statement' or 'flagship' speakers of an established, respected brand. Then it went up to $100k and up to $200-250k in recent years. The price of the new WAMM is yet another (rather big) step in this process. It would be interesting IMO to compare the abovementioned prices increase with the prices of top quality stuff such as supercars or luxury yachts. Is the steepness of the prices increase similiar as far as those different markets are taken into account or are we dealing with quite an extraordinary phenomenon in the field of audio gear.? Link to comment
mordante Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Haha! ... indeed many things for us to fret about... perhaps a luxury of poverty? I guess there are some Russians in Helsinki, but it might be more useful to speak Finish, no? Or do you happen to know some Russians selling such speakers cheap? [emoji2] ... I've always been rather partial to horns... wonder if the ceiling is high enough for these? [ATTACH]31743[/ATTACH] Another bargain speaker I've taken a liking to are these: At just [ATTACH]31746[/ATTACH] Only some £450k! Even cheaper than the Wilsons! Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile They look like a crossbreed between a Dalek (Dr Who one of the best series ever, better then any Netflix) and a tree. [br] Link to comment
rando Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I actually had some pretty serious reflections while posting this thread.Anybody remember the original WAMM from the early 80s? I wish I could forget about them actually. Link to comment
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