Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 A little over my depth here... Looking to buy a DAC to improve sound quality and reduce noise. Currently looking at this guy: https://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Scarlett-Audio-Interface-Tools/dp/B01E6T56EA/ref=nav_signin?ie=UTF8&qid=1480901460&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Focusrite+Scarlett-2i2+Gen2+USB+Audio+Interface& My question is, does this support a subwoofer? Link to comment
Dreaming Jester Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 A little over my depth here... Looking to buy a DAC to improve sound quality and reduce noise. Currently looking at this guy: https://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Scarlett-Audio-Interface-Tools/dp/B01E6T56EA/ref=nav_signin?ie=UTF8&qid=1480901460&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Focusrite+Scarlett-2i2+Gen2+USB+Audio+Interface& My question is, does this support a subwoofer? No, I don't think so. Take a look at its outputs - two '1/4-inch balanced jack outputs to connect professional studio monitors'. No sub output here. Are you sure you need such a device anyway? It seems more suited for musicians/recording engineers. You may want to consider a DAC/preamp with either a dedicated sub output or a second pair of analogue outputs. For example: SMSL Q5 PRO Stereo Amplifier USB Optical Coaxial DAC with Subwoofer Output 2x40W or http://nadelectronics.com/products/digital-music/D-1050-USB-DAC Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 I have self-powered monitors. Would buying a little amp like that be a good idea? Link to comment
rando Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Is your subwoofer powered or would it need amplification? You are correct amplifying powered monitors is not a good idea. Link to comment
Dreaming Jester Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I have self-powered monitors. Would buying a little amp like that be a good idea? Of course not. What type of inputs? Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 I haven't bought the sub yet, but yes it will be self powered. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 My speakers have RCA (crap) and balanced TRC and XLR inputs Link to comment
Dreaming Jester Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 My speakers have RCA (crap) and balanced TRC and XLR inputs So, maybe a DAC/pre with two sets of outputs. You may use balanced to your monitors and single-ended for the sub. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 So, maybe a DAC/pre with two sets of outputs. You may use balanced to your monitors and single-ended for the sub. Do you have any suggestions? Link to comment
Dreaming Jester Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Do you have any suggestions? Plenty of options in different price brackets. See the NAD above. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Someone said I could take the two speaker leads and put them into the sub, and then have the sub connect to the speakers after that. (Assuming I buy a sub with such a function) Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 So, maybe a DAC/pre with two sets of outputs. You may use balanced to your monitors and single-ended for the sub. Sorry, isn't "two sets of outputs" what is featured on the scarlet in OP? Link to comment
mansr Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sorry, isn't "two sets of outputs" what is featured on the scarlet in OP? I see one left and one right output. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 I see one left and one right output. lol could they be that deceptive... That's what I see too. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Talked to the guy at the store. Sounds like I'm getting the 6i6 Link to comment
Jay-dub Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Someone said I could take the two speaker leads and put them into the sub, and then have the sub connect to the speakers after that. (Assuming I buy a sub with such a function) Most subs have that functionality, although if you want a sub with balanced inputs and outputs that does restrict your selection of reasonably priced options. The main issue here is how the sub will be integrated into the system. If you run the stereo signal through the sub, then in most cases it will have a fixed 80Hz highpass filter on the output, and all bass will only come through the subwoofer. If you run parallel outputs from your DAC to the main speakers and sub, then the main speakers will output down to their lowest frequency response, and the sub will supplement that (you need to find a crossover frequency for it that sounds good). If you get a 2.1-channel preamp, then it will give you independent control over the crossover frequencies applied to the main speakers and the sub. General advice is to set the crossover frequency to twice the frequency listed as the bass response on the main speakers. In my own 2.1-channel system, I experimented with several crossover frequencies before settling on 80Hz, so the main benefit I'm getting from having a 2.1-channel preamp is that I have balanced XLR sending a filtered signal to the monitors, while the sub only has RCA input. However, I like having the flexibility to change the crossover settings without rewiring. If you go for a DAC with one stereo output and decide you prefer a full-range signal on the main monitors, you can get Y-cables to split the output (to the monitors and the sub from the same output). The line-level inputs on powered speakers normally draw so little current that this doesn't cause problems. Link to comment
mansr Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Talked to the guy at the store. Sounds like I'm getting the 6i6 That seems like serious overkill for your needs. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 That seems like serious overkill for your needs. There isn't much in between it seems. Link to comment
mansr Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 There isn't much in between it seems. If you're dead set on Focusrite, no. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Well help me out. Give me some amazon links to things that will do what I need them to do but for cheaper. I'm not totally set on Focusrite, but everyone around me seems to be buying them so I'm lead to believe it's the best choice. Link to comment
mansr Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Well help me out. Give me some amazon links to things that will do what I need them to do but for cheaper. I'm not totally set on Focusrite, but everyone around me seems to be buying them so I'm lead to believe it's the best choice. Focusrite gear is no doubt good, but it's primarily geared towards recording, so part of the price you pay will be for mic preamps and ADCs you'll never use. Have you decided on a sub? I'd suggesting you start with that, or at least make a short-list of options. Then it will be easier to narrow down the list of suitable DACs. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 It will probably be something by KRK since my monitors are that. I really have no idea other than that. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Well my Dad ordered the 2i2 days ago...guess I'll have to do one of those Jerry Rig techniques. You say I can just add a Y to one of the wires and plug that into the sub? Link to comment
mansr Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Well my Dad ordered the 2i2 days ago...guess I'll have to do one of those Jerry Rig techniques. You say I can just add a Y to one of the wires and plug that into the sub? Well, that'll give you subwoofage for one of the left/right channels. This is less than ideal, even if there often isn't much channel separation at low frequencies. Some subs have two inputs for precisely this reason. The KRK subs you mentioned have balanced left/right inputs and high-pass filtered outputs. The easiest way to use one of these with the Focusrite 2i2 is to connect balanced cables from the DAC left/right outputs to the sub inputs and from the sub outputs to the monitors. If you want to send the full range signal to the monitors, you'll need Y cables. Link to comment
Akoto Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 If you want to send the full range signal to the monitors, you'll need Y cables. That's exactly what I want. But why is it "less than ideal"? Link to comment
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