New Mytek Brooklyn ADC - Now Available

[bmoura]

The long awaited Brooklyn ADC from Mytek is now available on the Mytek web site.

 

Price is $1,995 for this Stereo Analog to Digital Converter with DSD (up to DSD 256) and PCM (up to 32 bit, 384k).

 

"Overview

BROOKLYN ADC is Mytek best sounding ever new A/D converter designed specifically for most demanding mastering and recording applications where transparency of conversion and accuracy of detail are of the highest importance. Dual mono ADC chipsets with fully balanced signal path and conversion are sampling audio at 12 MHz, with a choice of high resolution audio output formats: up to 384kHz /32 bit and DSD 256.

 

Control panel w. one button HiRes recording

Mac or Win app enabling control of all settings from a computer via USB. Features one button simultanoeus maximum resolution PCM and DSD recording without a DAW and easy flash firmware upgrades."

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://mytekdigital.com/brooklyn-adc/

[jtwrace]

I wonder how it compares to some of the other offerings out there. Guess we will wait to read some comparisons with hopefully some objective data. The thought of recording vinyl at real time is even more painful then ripping thousands of Cd's. ;-)

[bmoura]

I wonder how it compares to some of the other offerings out there. Guess we will wait to read some comparisons with hopefully some objective data. The thought of recording vinyl at real time is even more painful then ripping thousands of Cd's. ;-)

 

There aren't too many ADCs on the market that offer Stereo DSD 256 recording.

I think this one will interest a number of people, especially with the bundled recording software.

 

Other DSD ADC choices can be found on the "Analog to DSD Converters & DSD Recorders" Tab of the NativeDSD Database

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rHcXP7PExksxZfkif3Rv2CT1Y_ESpNSv2b0nkKlBySk/edit#gid=478258652

[jtwrace]

There aren't too many ADCs on the market that offer Stereo DSD 256 recording.

I think this one will interest a number of people, especially with the bundled recording software.

 

Other DSD ADC choices can be found on the "Analog to DSD Converters & DSD Recorders" Tab of the NativeDSD Database

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rHcXP7PExksxZfkif3Rv2CT1Y_ESpNSv2b0nkKlBySk/edit#gid=478258652

 

No there aren't but I'm still curious to see how this one stacks up. Hopefully you will do a complete review with objective comparisons.

[bmoura]

No there aren't but I'm still curious to see how this one stacks up. Hopefully you will do a complete review with objective comparisons.

I'm guessing that David Robinson at Positive Feedback, who has already reviewed the Playback Designs Pinot ADC, would be the one to write up the Brooklyn ADC.

 

We'll see.

[VirusKiller]

I simply don't get this product.  It's not a Pro audio device, and even for home studio use, a single analogue stereo input?

 

Does anyone still mix in analogue these days to produce an analogue master?

 

[intensemojo]

Vinyl to DSD

[Totsipaki]

Exactly If I could afford one I would buy It with no hesitation for archiving purposes.

[bmoura]

12 minutes ago, intensemojo said:

Vinyl to DSD

 

Along with Analog Tape to DSD 256. 

 

[VirusKiller]

Ah...  Thanks.

[esimms86]

52 minutes ago, bmoura said:

 

Along with Analog Tape to DSD 256. 

 

Brian, I appreciate your love for DSD(I love it too) but I would imagine that there are also people out there who would opt instead to convert their vinyl and analog tape recordings to PCM 384. The DSD256 niche, on the other hand, does make this ADC special. The price point is also not unreasonable for someone with an interest in converting a sizeable library of analog recordings.

 

Personally, I'm looking forward to the release of the much more expensive Chord Davina which shares essential design aspects with the ChordBlu mkII. I would be remiss to not point out that Davina should cost about the same as Blu2(roughly $10,000 currently with the Brexit discount), making it an ADC for pros as opposed to hobbyists. The key in this case would be to see how recordings produced with Davina fare on playback, especially with systems having the DaveBlu2 combo. I don't have anything more to say re: Davina as this thread is really about the Brooklyn ADC.

[esimms86]

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 10:47 AM, bmoura said:

I'm guessing that David Robinson at Positive Feedback, who has already reviewed the Playback Designs Pinot ADC, would be the one to write up the Brooklyn ADC.

 

We'll see.

I'm also curious as to what Positive Feedback's Myles Astor (a major analog tape enthusiast) would have to say.

[bmoura]

50 minutes ago, esimms86 said:

I'm also curious as to what Positive Feedback's Myles Astor (a major analog tape enthusiast) would have to say.

 

Myles Astor was a big fan of a couple of the 2xHD DSD128 downloads created from Analog Tapes originally recorded to Analog Tape by Jonathan Horwich (IPI) and demo'd at the 2016 Capital Audiofest by The Voice That Is (audio dealer).  Those were done with professional studio ADCs like the Merging Technologies Horus and HAPI.  He posted comments on that at his Audionirvana.Org forum sometime ago.  Haven't seen Miles comment on Analog to DSD 256 transfers yet.

https://www.audionirvana.org/forum/title-to-be-added/audio-shows/capital-audiofest-2016/21179-dsd-in-the-the-voice-that-is-room?p=21606#post21606

 

At AXPONA 2016, Andreas Koch had a demo where listeners could compare an Analog Tape recording to one recorded at DSD 256 with the Playback Designs Pinot ADC in real time.  Making the point that when Analog Tape meets DSD 256 the two can be very close. 

 

Having heard that comparison, Koch is right.  With is Pinot ADC, the differences between the two were basically imperceptible to my ears. In some cases, expert listeners including Michael Bishop, Chad Kassem and David Robinson were stumped.  Impressive.

 

https://positive-feedback.com/show-reports/report-axpona-2016/

 

https://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/impressions-playback-designs-merlot-quad-dsd-dac-syrah-music-server-brief-notes-pinot-quad-dsd-adc/

 

Time will tell if the Brooklyn ADC can match that performance on Analog Tape to DSD 256 transfers.

 

 

[Miska]

On 11/28/2016 at 5:12 PM, bmoura said:

Other DSD ADC choices can be found on the "Analog to DSD Converters & DSD Recorders" Tab of the NativeDSD Database

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rHcXP7PExksxZfkif3Rv2CT1Y_ESpNSv2b0nkKlBySk/edit#gid=478258652

 

There's an error there, RME ADI-2 Pro can do DSD64/DSD128/DSD256 (and PCM up to 768/32).

 

[weff]

There is also an error regarding the Mytek Digital Brooklyn ADC actual capabilities not the marketing spec of planned capabilities some time in the future.

As of the 21st October 2017 the Brooklyn ADC :

"From analog inputs XLR and TRS ... PCM 32 / 384 kHz can be recorded but DSD recording will be activated (firmware update) within a short period of time". (as advised by Mytek Digital recently.)

This has been the state since July 2017 and unfortunately there is as yet no DSD support at all. It is being worked on is the only message I have received since March 2017 when I first asked and was about to place an order for a Brooklyn ADC.

It might be the world's best PCM recorder - but when you want to purchase a DSD256 recorder if DSD functionality is not working then I don't wish to purchase a DSD256 recorder that cannot yet record DSD at all.

After this length of time, since the Brooklyn ADC was first released around a year ago, it is quite discouraging that there is still no indication of when DSD support will be enabled with a new firmware update. There is no indication either that this is tied to MQA support for the ADC and they possibly won't release one without the other - I don't especially want (or need) MQA in the Brooklyn ADC - and I would have DSD support over MQA any day but clearly there is some intractable issue that is preventing the Brooklyn ADC from recording in DSD.

[alexkrich]

This unit does not perform DSD or MQA conversion. If you want to "record" your LPs or tapes, you will have to do it in PCM and Brooklyn does a great job doing it. But don't count on DSD or MQA any time soon: they have been talking about FW update for a while now and it is still not avaialble. 

[bmoura]

15 minutes ago, alexkrich said:

This unit does not perform DSD or MQA conversion. If you want to "record" your LPs or tapes, you will have to do it in PCM and Brooklyn does a great job doing it. But don't count on DSD or MQA any time soon: they have been talking about FW update for a while now and it is still not avaialble. 

 

There are other choices for transferring analog LPs and Tapes to DSD.  Including the older Mytek 8x192 ADC.

Check the DSD Transfer tab of the DSD Database for a list of 16 products in that category

http://www.nativedsd.com/database

 

[rkay5]

So as of now the Brooklyn ADC doesn't recorded any DSD at all.I thinking about getting both the DAC & ADC. Right now I have a Mytek Stereo 192 DSD DAC mastering & Tascam DA-3000 for vinyl DSD & PCM recording. One thing I'm looking for is a easier way to get DSD recording into the computer using the Tacsam as ADC SDIF2 outputs connected to the Mytek's SDIF2 inputs Mytek firewre to computer DAW software but Mytek has never wrote the software to make that work, they said they were going to but it never happened . It does for pcm, tacsam  as ADC AES output to Mytek AES input Mytek firewire to computer DAW software works great.

 So I was hoping with the new Brooklyn ADC & DAC I could recorded right to a DAW over USB.

[bela541]

Does anyone still mix in analogue these days to produce an analogue master?

[Superdad]

Just FYI:

While last year over 50 Brooklyn DAC owners bought our choke-filtered, dual-output, 5-7 amp linear power supply, there are now at least 3 people using this Mytek ADC with a JS-2.  And two of them are powering both the Brooklyn DAC and ADC from the supply--no sweat. 

I really own the folks at Mytek a "thank-you" gift for including a DC jack on their units!

[scb]

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[scb]

On 1/19/2018 at 7:54 PM, Superdad said:

Just FYI:

While last year over 50 Brooklyn DAC owners bought our choke-filtered, dual-output, 5-7 amp linear power supply, there are now at least 3 people using this Mytek ADC with a JS-2.  And two of them are powering both the Brooklyn DAC and ADC from the supply--no sweat. 

I really own the folks at Mytek a "thank-you" gift for including a DC jack on their units!

 

Superdad, do you know the actual DC requirements of the Brooklyn ADC? I know it has a 30 watt power supply, but how power hungry is it? If I wanted to run it off of an actual battery (for actual use recording in the field), what's the current draw?

I wouldn't think it's more than a portable mic preamp, especially a preamp that's supplying phantom power.

The Neve Portico 5012 portable preamp has these power requirements:
Voltage range: 9 to 18 Volts DC
Current consumption:
@ 9VDC Current is 1.3 A typical: Power = 11.7W
@ 12VDC Current is 1.0 A typical: Power = 12.0 watts
@ 15VDC Current is 800 mA typical: Power = 12.0 watts
@ 18VDC Current is 650 mA typical: Power = 11.7 watts

Looking at that, I wouldn't think the Mytek unit would need more current at 12v, especially comparing to the current draw of the older Stereo 192 ADC, which has a fairly low current draw. But I don't know. Can you help? Does the Brooklyn really need a ton of current?
 

[scb]

On 10/24/2017 at 4:53 AM, VirusKiller said:

I simply don't get this product.  It's not a Pro audio device, and even for home studio use, a single analogue stereo input?

 

Does anyone still mix in analogue these days to produce an analogue master?

 

 

Why isn't it a pro audio device? It's on Mytek's page as a pro audio device. They claim it's their best ever 2 channel ADC. 

 

I still use a Stereo 192 ADC from 2005...

[scb]

got my answer: Michael wrote me today to say 1Amp at 12volts