meldano Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hi buzzlulu, thanks! I thought the system was up to date. After updating the microrendu, it seems that the upnp bridge is everytime in run. But the system is not really stable I set the upnp bridge to pcm output and disable flac compression. in this case I can not listen to some tracks. Roon skips the tracks after some seconds. With enabled flac compression it seems o.k. Do you have a stable system ? Daniel Link to comment
meldano Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Update: With the settings above sometimes I have the same skipping error. With the Microrendu it is not possible to pause playback from roon and listen to music from another upnp server like asset (choose from the naim app). I delete the upnp bridge, restart the microrendu, install the bridge app, restart the rendu. No chance to get it stable. Any help? Daniel Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 When you use the SonoreUPnP Bridge it's best to delete any pending playlists and close all other controllers. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
meldano Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 And the skipping problem ? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Are all these devices connected directly to your router via Ethernet? If not, I suggest you start there. Also, if you just setup Roon and you are indexing a large library this will take time to settle down in the background and the process can cause these kinds of issues. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
buzzlulu Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 hours ago, meldano said: And the skipping problem ? Hi Jesus I randomly notice the same "skipping" problem with ROON every now and then (even before the Bridge update) Best Gregg (the one who emailed with you informing of the Bridge problems before the update fix) Link to comment
meldano Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yes, all devices connected with cable to the router Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 14 hours ago, buzzlulu said: Hi Jesus I randomly notice the same "skipping" problem with ROON every now and then (even before the Bridge update) Best Gregg (the one who emailed with you informing of the Bridge problems before the update fix) There hasn't been a bridge update in some time. The only update was to the web software that starts the application. I'm not aware of ant code in the bridge that can make Roon skip content it's trying to play. I had Meldano look at the connections as a matter of protocol only. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 14 hours ago, meldano said: Yes, all devices connected with cable to the router Any switches, optical, or wireless gizmos? Have you tried to delete your library and point Roon to your content again. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
buzzlulu Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, vortecjr said: There hasn't been a bridge update in some time. The only update was to the web software that starts the application. I'm not aware of ant code in the bridge that can make Roon skip content it's trying to play. I had Meldano look at the connections as a matter of protocol only. The random skipping in ROON which I am referring to (and Meldano is talking about) has actually existed in my system since I purchased my Sonicorbiter back in May. Link to comment
meldano Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, vortecjr said: Any switches, optical, or wireless gizmos? Have you tried to delete your library and point Roon to your content again. No, only one router with RJ45 cable connection. Connect directly to the roon core, naim ndx and sonore microrendu. Next days I will try another router model. Wich library I have to delete? Not really good news that other users have the same problem Daniel Link to comment
buzzlulu Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 However - perhaps this is a ROON problem and not a Bridge problem ??? For me this happens when I am playing from a saved playlist of around 40 songs. If I quickly play 10 second snippets of each song and quickly bounce around from song to song that is what sets ROON off - it then starts skipping from song to song however there is no longer any sound output - just muted silence. The other funny thing is each time I hit play for a song (this is before the bad behavior) I see a pop up that some random number of songs have been added to the playlist - something like 35 songs etc. So if I play only 10 second snippets and each time I select a song it indicates it is adding 35 to the playlist it is like perhaps I have overwhelmed ROON and quickly have told it to play 100-200 songs rapid fire . Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 8 hours ago, buzzlulu said: The random skipping in ROON which I am referring to (and Meldano is talking about) has actually existed in my system since I purchased my Sonicorbiter back in May. We have had no updates to the application since before that. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, buzzlulu said: However - perhaps this is a ROON problem and not a Bridge problem ??? For me this happens when I am playing from a saved playlist of around 40 songs. If I quickly play 10 second snippets of each song and quickly bounce around from song to song that is what sets ROON off - it then starts skipping from song to song however there is no longer any sound output - just muted silence. The other funny thing is each time I hit play for a song (this is before the bad behavior) I see a pop up that some random number of songs have been added to the playlist - something like 35 songs etc. So if I play only 10 second snippets and each time I select a song it indicates it is adding 35 to the playlist it is like perhaps I have overwhelmed ROON and quickly have told it to play 100-200 songs rapid fire . I would avoid doing that. The bridge needs to translate the command in real time and it's meant to pass simple commands one at a time. The playlist issue could be a user input error or a Roon issue. Either way it seems beyond our scope here. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
meldano Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Following Problem: 1. The Roon Core, Router and bridge powered on 2. Switch the Naim NDX on 3. Choose an album an press "Play Album" button 4. After small delay the first track play 5. Some seconds later automatic skip to the next track 6. to the next, to the next... from begin to end Choose a new album > same failure Test with two different router. Jesus, do you have a solution for me? Thanks very much. Link to comment
meldano Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I play around settings... If I set "Flac Compression" on (Roon device settings) no skipping adventures. Will try later on/off several devices. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 hours ago, meldano said: I play around settings... If I set "Flac Compression" on (Roon device settings) no skipping adventures. Will try later on/off several devices. Good catch! This might explain the skipping. Roon plays a title from a playlist and the first title is not played because the stream format is not supported. The player reports that its done and moves on to the next titles and the process repeats until the playlist is exhausted. Enabling FLAC Compression allows Roon to stream in a supported format. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
buzzlulu Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Ok - the behavior described is what also happens to me however I am confused. All of my files are FLAC. Isn't FLAC a supported ROON format??? Why does FLAC compression rectify the problem - and what does "enabling FLAC compression" do?? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 We will take it. Of course it's supported, but that does not mean Roon will send FLAC down the pipeline unless you enable it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
meldano Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I listen to music with the upnp bridge last days. Everything o.k. When I power off/on the microrendu, it us necessary to start the bridge over the web interface. Is this 'no auto start feature' normal ? Daniel Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Everything restarts by itself on boot. The UPnP/DLNA device needs to be on, the DAC needs to be on, and Roon needs to running. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
meldano Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 In my case it doesn't restart by itself. Link to comment
meldano Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I try it four times: - microrendu power off (roon core, naim ndx on) - micrurendu on upnp bridge no auto restart Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 It will say "Bridge not running" in the status until the unit connects with Roon and to your DAC. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
meldano Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 After power off/on I must restart the bridge with the web interface Link to comment
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