vortecjr Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 I meant UQ. Try squeezeplay if you are iOS. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app The SonoreUPnP Bridge only works with LMS or Roon at the server/controller. He is using Roon. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ah of course. Perhaps then try LMS just to see if you can get the path working. Squeezeplay is a free controller app. I use iPeng myself but it's $9 (and worth it compared to the others). Perhaps Donors need to develop a player that incorporates the best of the others and blows them away? I know I'd pay for it! Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I meant Sonore not donors! Dang auto correct. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ah of course. Perhaps then try LMS just to see if you can get the path working. Squeezeplay is a free controller app. I use iPeng myself but it's $9 (and worth it compared to the others). Perhaps Donors need to develop a player that incorporates the best of the others and blows them away? I know I'd pay for it! Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app It should work with both controllers. Right now his issue is that the connection is not being established between SonoreUPnP Bridge and his device. If he pics PCM as the stream format as you confirmed that should solve the issue. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Distinctive Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I meant Sonore not donors! Dang auto correct. Based on price and quality, donors is not a badly choosen substitute for Sonore, is it? Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I am sometimes a bit slow to understand things. I just realized in the last few days that, since the mrendu can behave as a UPNP/DLNA renderer, it could very well act as the "target" of the RoonBridge service. I tried it, and it works. Used in this way, when one wants to alternate between Roon Server and a conventional UPnP/DLNA server (like minimserver controlled through Bubble on android), one does not need to switch the Audio App on the mrendu from RoonReady to MPD/DLNA. The mrendu can be permanently left in MPD/DLNA mode, avoiding a trip to the sonicorbiter web app to change audio mode. Is it premature to say that the RoonBridge service makes the RoonReady audio mode obsolete ? Or does to RAAT protocol underlying the Sonore RoonReady mode offer significant advantages over the UPNP/DLNA protocol used by the RoonBridge service (eg for multiroom synchro) ? Should I avoid using the RoonBridge service to feed the mrendu renderer as far as SQ is concerned ? I would appreciate any comments on the above. Regards Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Does it connect and play to your other renderers? No, I have tried all of them plus an Oppo 105 that was switched off when I took the earlier screenshot. BTW - Bedroom=Naim Muso regards Nick Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Try PCM as the stream format! Thanks, unfortunately it didn't make any difference Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Thanks, unfortunately it didn't make any difference There is nothing more to check. Unfortunately, it's just not working for you. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 I am sometimes a bit slow to understand things. I just realized in the last few days that, since the mrendu can behave as a UPNP/DLNA renderer, it could very well act as the "target" of the RoonBridge service. I tried it, and it works. Used in this way, when one wants to alternate between Roon Server and a conventional UPnP/DLNA server (like minimserver controlled through Bubble on android), one does not need to switch the Audio App on the mrendu from RoonReady to MPD/DLNA. The mrendu can be permanently left in MPD/DLNA mode, avoiding a trip to the sonicorbiter web app to change audio mode. Is it premature to say that the RoonBridge service makes the RoonReady audio mode obsolete ? Or does to RAAT protocol underlying the Sonore RoonReady mode offer significant advantages over the UPNP/DLNA protocol used by the RoonBridge service (eg for multiroom synchro) ? Should I avoid using the RoonBridge service to feed the mrendu renderer as far as SQ is concerned ? I would appreciate any comments on the above. Regards This application is intended for DLNA/UPNP devices that do not otherwise have Roon / RoonReady Support. It's not a good idea and it will likely have operational issues. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Based on price and quality, donors is not a badly choosen substitute for Sonore, is it? Yep! My next 'donation' goes to Uptone for an LPs-1 and then my giving days are over for awhile. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 There is nothing more to check. Unfortunately, it's just not working for you. Huh. My UQ is still on a very old firmware 3.17. I wonder if that makes a difference at all. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Computer Audiophile mobile app SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Huh. My UQ is still on a very old firmware 3.17. I wonder if that makes a difference at all. ...if at first you don't succeed,.... I'm not one to give up easily, so I uninstalled and tried again, and it has now started working - go figure. I have successfully got the Bridge working on a Naim UnitiQute2 with settings Max Sample Rate 96khz, and Format WAV. (NB: LPCM does NOT work, only a loud hissing noise comes out of the speakers) As my UQ2 is connected wirelessly, max playback is at 96khz, but over ethernet I expect 192khz will work fine as well. I have the volume control in Roon enabled, and this works correctly with the UQ2. DSF (DSD 64) files do play when 'convert to PCM' mode is selected. However, this only works if max sample rate is set to 96khz. I had the same results with a Naim Muso. I couldn’t get an Oppo BDP105EU or Arcam AVR850 to work with WAV or LPCM – connection is made but playback never started. regards Nick Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 ...if at first you don't succeed,.... I'm not one to give up easily, so I uninstalled and tried again, and it has now started working - go figure. I have successfully got the Bridge working on a Naim UnitiQute2 with settings Max Sample Rate 96khz, and Format WAV. (NB: LPCM does NOT work, only a loud hissing noise comes out of the speakers) As my UQ2 is connected wirelessly, max playback is at 96khz, but over ethernet I expect 192khz will work fine as well. I have the volume control in Roon enabled, and this works correctly with the UQ2. DSF (DSD 64) files do play when 'convert to PCM' mode is selected. However, this only works if max sample rate is set to 96khz. I had the same results with a Naim Muso. I couldn’t get an Oppo BDP105EU or Arcam AVR850 to work with WAV or LPCM – connection is made but playback never started. regards Nick I had a feeling you would figure it out:) In regards to the Oppo BDP105EU or Arcam AVR850 there are DLNA devices that do not act as renderers when controlled by third party apps. These might only work with their own controllers and or by accessing files directly from a DLNA server. Are you able to control these devices via Plug Player running on your computer or mobile device? SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
kblundy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Thanks for all your help. I have now disabled Bubble and rebooted both ST and router, but it has made no difference, so still showing as not connected. Screenshot of config screen attached [ATTACH=CONFIG]30876[/ATTACH] Any other ideas? thanks Nick I had a similar issue - in the end I rebooted / by unplugging the mR twice (power cycling) and it finally connected. Not very scientific - but it did the job. Hope it helps. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I had a feeling you would figure it out:) In regards to the Oppo BDP105EU or Arcam AVR850 there are DLNA devices that do not act as renderers when controlled by third party apps. These might only work with their own controllers and or by accessing files directly from a DLNA server. Are you able to control these devices via Plug Player running on your computer or mobile device? I tried PlugPlayer as well as Oppo and Arcam's own controllers, but neither showed up i'm afraid. Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I had a similar issue - in the end I rebooted / by unplugging the mR twice (power cycling) and it finally connected.Not very scientific - but it did the job. Hope it helps. Thanks - all up and running now after a reinstall Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 That sounds promising. Can you keep us updated if you make any progress on the issue using Linn. would be much appreciated Send me an e-mail at [email protected] SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
seaharp1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hi, I'm fairly computer/streaming illiterate. Does anybody know if the Astell&Kern 380 which has it's own streaming network protocol (MQS streaming server) DNLA/UPnP thru AK Connect app can used with Roon/microrendu network. Thanks, Larry Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hi, I'm fairly computer/streaming illiterate. Does anybody know if the Astell&Kern 380 which has it's own streaming network protocol (MQS streaming server) DNLA/UPnP thru AK Connect app can used with Roon/microrendu network. Thanks, Larry Download PlugPlayer for your computer or mobile device and see if you can stream to it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Thanks - all up and running now after a reinstall Does that mean your Oppo and Arcam finally worked? SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Stampie Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Does that mean your Oppo and Arcam finally worked? No, still no joy Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 No, still no joy Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile It sounds like these are either not DLNA/UPnP renderers or use some kind of proprietary scheme. These are busted then. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Update: The Linn update is available on the sonicTransporter series and should be released on the microRendu and Sonicorbiter SE later today. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Update: SonoreUPnP Bridge 1.0.2 was released today. Unfortunately, the initial feedback for Linn devices is not positive, but we will keep working on it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
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