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Feel free to compare the following files:

 

1. Original CD rip:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfTUdrMGtRRkZuZkk

 

2. microRendu/LPS-1 digital output:

 

HQPlayer (no DSP) on music server -> microRendu/LPS-1 -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfUUFxcGs3TDFlclU

 

3. Phasure Mach II digital output:

 

XXHighEnd (no DSP) on Phasure Mach II -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfU1NkMXhWZTVUd1k

 

I won't bias anyone's opinion by giving my thoughts... just yet. Enjoy!

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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Feel free to compare the following files:

 

1. Original CD rip:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfTUdrMGtRRkZuZkk

 

2. microRendu/LPS-1 digital output:

 

HQPlayer (no DSP) on music server -> microRendu/LPS-1 -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfUUFxcGs3TDFlclU

 

3. Phasure Mach II digital output:

 

XXHighEnd (no DSP) on Phasure Mach II -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfU1NkMXhWZTVUd1k

 

I won't bias anyone's opinion by giving my thoughts... just yet. Enjoy!

 

Mani.

 

What's the "music server" used in case 2?

 

Same machine as XXHighEnd machine?

 

Different machine?

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What's the "music server" used in case 2?

 

The music server is a different machine than the Mach II, and sits in my basement. It's based on Chris's CAPS v4 Cortes with an i3-6100T CPU. Not very powerful, but more than enough to run HQPlayer with all DSP off - no filtering, no noise-shaping, no format conversion, etc. (The AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif only accepts 16/44.1, so not much possibility to play around with HQP's features.) The music server was connected to the microRendu and Mach II via ethernet, with a Baaske isolator.

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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No, the USB-to-spdif only does 16/44.1. No DSP whatsoever in #2 or #3.

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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Feel free to compare the following files:

 

1. Original CD rip:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfTUdrMGtRRkZuZkk

 

2. microRendu/LPS-1 digital output:

 

HQPlayer (no DSP) on music server -> microRendu/LPS-1 -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfUUFxcGs3TDFlclU

 

3. Phasure Mach II digital output:

 

XXHighEnd (no DSP) on Phasure Mach II -> AR-T Legato USB-to-spdif -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfU1NkMXhWZTVUd1k

 

I won't bias anyone's opinion by giving my thoughts... just yet. Enjoy!

 

Mani.

 

Not sure I understand your logic here....take a CD rip, rerecord it as altered by two different playback solutions and then ask others their opinion after all 3 scenarios have been altered by their playback solution. Seems pretty meaningless vs using a digital analyzer to see if any systematic alteration occurred between input CD rip and the recorded Tascam data for options 2 and 3

Regards,

Dave

 

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Seems pretty meaningless vs using a digital analyzer to see if any systematic alteration occurred between input CD rip and the recorded Tascam data for options 2 and 3

 

The system you play these back on should be pretty irrelevant, provided it's of reasonably high resolution - it'll add it's own character to all 3 files equally, but should still allow you to determine which of #2 or #3 sounds closest to #1. And that's all you need to do.

 

But if you have a digital analyzer, be my guest.

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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The first set of files I posted were of the digital outputs from the two digital transports - if everything is working perfectly, they should sound identical to the original CD rip.

 

Here are 3 different files (same track) taken from the analogue outputs of a Chord 2Qute DAC...

 

1. Original file:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfTUdrMGtRRkZuZkk

 

2. Digital transport A (microRendu or Phasure Mach II):

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfQ1JYdk9mVWtEbHM

 

3. Digital transport B (microRendu or Phasure Mach II):

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0PU5LO5jVjfMEF3eURHVkU1ZWM

 

 

Of course, these 3 files should not sound identical to each other. The original file (#1) is fed to a Chord 2Qute DAC. Its analogue output goes through a Pass Labs X1 preamp (to convert the Chord's SE output to balanced), then through a Prism AD124 ADC (balanced input only) and finally to a Tascam's spdif input. Nevertheless, it should be possible to determine which digital transport, the mircroRendu or the Mach II, is the most accurate.

 

So, which file, #2 or #3, sounds closest to #1? I'll disclose which is which later...

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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In case anyone's interested...

 

2. Digital transport A (download file #8):

 

HQPlayer (no DSP) on music server -> microRendu/LPS-1 -> Chord 2Qute -> Pass Labs X1 -> Prism AD124 -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

3. Digital transport B (download file #9):

 

XXHighEnd (no DSP) on Phasure Mach II -> Chord 2Qute -> Pass Labs X1 -> Prism AD124 -> Tascam DA-3000 spdif input

 

FWIW, to my ears, file #8 has a similar flavour to download file #2, and file #9 has a similar flavour to download file #3.

 

On a final note, I'd just like to say that I think the Chord 2Qute is a phenomenal DAC for the money, as proven by how closely it can reproduce the original file.

 

Mani.

Main: Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima speakers + 2x Rotel RB-1590 stereo amps -> 4x subs
Office: MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers
Vinyl: Thöress Phono Enhancer -> RME ADI-2 Pro

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