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19 hours ago, church_mouse said:

Feeding the sound through SQ+ does "flavour" it with the Amarra house sound (others more knowledgeable than I will no doubt have a better idea as to whether this is because SQ+ is avoiding elements of coreaudio, or simply that Amarra applies some proprietary dsp to everything fed through SQ+).  However, the upsampling settings chosen in A+ do impact too  - in Izotope terms, one can still hear the differences between a shallow filtered, minimum phase setting and a very steep, linear phase setting. 

 

Since I use SOX upsampling in JRMC (and one has no control over the SOX setting), I switched to SOX upsampling in A+ when it was introduced some time ago and played with the settings until I got the sound coming through SQ+ to sound pretty similar whether I fed it via JRMC or A+.

 

I do not have any DSD material, so I have no idea how my set up would handle that.

 

The Air Motion tweeters in my speakers are quite gentle (soft), so I am reluctant to suggest feeding A+ through SQ+ could tame the A+ sound enough for you.

 

I downloaded a trial of SQ+.  How do you set it up with Audirvana?  I have SQ+ with my DAC as the output device (actually a Matrix Audio X SPDIF 2, I2s converter).  In Audirvana, do you set "SonicStream" as the output device?

 

I did all of that, but get no sound.

 

I tried setting the Matrix as the output device in A+, but that bypasses SQ+ entirely....

 

Help appreciated.

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I was able to get SQ+ to work with Audirvana 3.5, for the most part.  DSD would not play, nor would TIdal MQA.  I do think A+ sounds better with SQ+, though I’m not yet clear if it’s better than Luxe.  HQPlayer wouldn’t work with SQ+ at all, not sure why.

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@DancingSea - I have found that SQ+ can be temperamental in setting up (well, it is Amarra!).  Sometimes it can be worth closing and re-opening SQ+ before setting up a new input source such for the first time.

 

After setting up A+ and JRMC so that they both point to SQ+, I just leave my MacMini alone and control via iPad or tablet.


David

 

MacMini, Mytek Manhattan I DAC, Avantone The Abbey Monitors

Audirvana 3 or JRiver MC+BubbleUPNP

 

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I tried SQ+ with Audirvana and found it inconsistent at best.  Often, it refused to play.

 

Last night, out of the blue, Luxe offered an update that now, seemingly 75 years in the making, allows for AU units.  Works well, except the only way to turn them off is to quit the program, the disconnect command doesn’t seem to work.

 

For me, Luxe continues to work well as long as I do not use its local library, but instead use Tidal and iTunes.....

 

C’mon Sonic Studios, I believe you bought the rights to SACD’s from Philips, right?  So lets get DSD via DoP integrated to Luxe, you can do it, just believe in yourself!

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6 hours ago, DancingSea said:

<snip>For me, Luxe continues to work well as long as I do not use its local library, but instead use Tidal and iTunes.....

 

The latest version (I have 4.3.500) actually has a library that works! I find the iTunes integration to have issues--as well as inferior sound.

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@DancingSea  I have never had SQ+ not play.  However, I seem to have jinxed my own set-up; I have everything set to upsample to 192 to avoid sample rate switching issues with SQ+, but for the last few days, without obvious cause, in my midi settings the rate will suddenly switch to 44.1 which makes the 192 unlistenable.   Taking SQ+ out of the path; stability returns.

 

 I know the default input/output settings for SQ+ are 44.1, but this sudden resetting to 44.1 without a restart is a new, and unexplained, instability for me.


David

 

MacMini, Mytek Manhattan I DAC, Avantone The Abbey Monitors

Audirvana 3 or JRiver MC+BubbleUPNP

 

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I give up with this.  In an attempt to solve my sample rate issue, I rebooted everything.  Now, no matter what I do, SQ+ refuses to capture the audio stream.

 

Oh well, it was nice whilst it lasted.


David

 

MacMini, Mytek Manhattan I DAC, Avantone The Abbey Monitors

Audirvana 3 or JRiver MC+BubbleUPNP

 

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21 hours ago, church_mouse said:

I give up with this.  In an attempt to solve my sample rate issue, I rebooted everything.  Now, no matter what I do, SQ+ refuses to capture the audio stream.

 

Oh well, it was nice whilst it lasted.

To be fair to Amarra, the "no sound" turned out to be my error.

 

I needed to go back in to OSX Privacy and Security settings and re-authorise SQ+ to use the microphone - without that authorisation, SQ+ is blocked from taking over audio.

 

At the moment, sample switching is stable and all running well again.


David

 

MacMini, Mytek Manhattan I DAC, Avantone The Abbey Monitors

Audirvana 3 or JRiver MC+BubbleUPNP

 

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On 4/11/2019 at 3:47 PM, MosfetMist said:

Yes you're right, Audirvana+ is bright and a bit harsh, it manipulates the audio signal digitally to create artificial detail but it comes at a cost: it becomes ear fatiguing and sometimes boomy.

 

A+ does not "manipulate the audio signal digitally" unless upsampling is turned on; it is bit-perfect -- at least this is true for the Windows version (I can't see why it wouldn't be true for the Mac version).

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I found on forum that Amarra Luxe had update, so I downloaded latest version to see if “wrong song order list problem in Amarra library” is fixed. Quickly I found the problem is still present. HOWEVER, I FOUND SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE THE SOLUTION! But I need you to verify this solution, maybe you can reproduce the problem so we could confirm solution.

It was late night when I was experimenting yesterday, so I checked this solution on only one or two albums. If I Import music folder to Amarra library from sheared folder - NAS (Synology) sometimes, it happens that song order list is wrong. I could carefully re-tag again and again but no success. And there is no logic, everythime wrong song order list could be different.

But If I copy music album from sheared folder - NAS (Synology) to mac mini where is also Amarra Luxe installed and rescanned/import album to Amarra Library from mac mini, then the song order list is correct.

Before I buy the biggest possible SSD disk for my mac mini and copy all my music from Synology to mac mini I want that somebody confirm my observation.

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Updated Amarra Lux to version 4.3.500 and now the remote app does not work.

 

Unlike some others, I have not had many problems with Amarra Lux until I upgraded to version 4.3.500. Now Amarra Play (the remote app on my iPad) now longer connects to Lux.

The remote app for iTunes still connects fine and Amarra Play even connects with SQ+ if I open SQ+ on my computer.

 

Before I spend more hours trying to sort this out I thought I would check and see if anyone else is having this problem.

 

Regards

Mark

 

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I updated to 4.3.500 hoping the Qobuz slow streaming bug had been fixed. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case.

Qobuz streams fine at 44.1kHz, but at 96kHz the loading / streaming throughput cannot keep up and stuttering appears after a few seconds.

The MacMini Setup seems to be ok, as streaming with the Qobuz app on the same machine works without any issues up to 192kHz

 


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