Post Your System Topology - It Might Help Others To Improve Their Systems

[r_w]

Cool, what brand and model are the isolation transformers you are using?

 

Thanks!!I use normal isolation transformers 230v-230v 1:1.500w,40w,30w,10w.(total 12pcs.)

All gears are modded.Sound become .....Huuhh

 

And no need expensive power cord!!!!!!

[hurka]

All transformers made from MSB Technology and Plitron!!!??

Noooo!!!!!

All noname Chinese trafo,the biggest one toroidal in alu chassis.The others EI core.

 

Good electron tube gears use many dc choke inside.

But I don't have tube gears.So ac chokes help me a lot.

[Astralark]

Laptop -Switch - mR (LPS1) - DAVE - Headphone . Simple set up and I think it can out perform lots of headphone systems.

 

 

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[austinpop]

Laptop -Switch - mR (LPS1) - DAVE - Headphone . Simple set up and I think it can out perform lots of headphone systems.

 

What? No isolators, reclockers, LPSes, power conditioners, chokes, and fancy cables? How can you even stand to listen?

 

Actually I'm just insanely jealous that you have a DAVE!

[Astralark]

What? No isolators, reclockers, LPSes, power conditioners, chokes, and fancy cables? How can you even stand to listen?

 

Actually I'm just insanely jealous that you have a DAVE!

 

DAC has PLL and should have a great clock. For isolation, both DAVE and mR claim a galvanic isolation. So there is no problem. LPS-1 is the best power supply to mR and I don't need others. DAVE is quite immune to USB and the designer claim SMPS is OK for DAVE. So there is no problem at all.

 

 

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[mabe]

..here is my very compact all digital system:

 

[r_w]

Updated the diagram to show where the ferrite clip on filters/chokes are.

 

[blownsi]

[beerandmusic]

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great amp !!

[One and a half]

Finally complete.

 

One and a half Audio network.pdf

[r_w]

That's brilliant... probably the most educational diagram yet.

 

On my laptop the LAN lines look a bit odd (can't workout full detail of LAN topology), but the explanation of your mains topology is excellent.

 

Finally complete.

 

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[One and a half]

That's brilliant... probably the most educational diagram yet.

 

On my laptop the LAN lines look a bit odd (can't workout full detail of LAN topology), but the explanation of your mains topology is excellent.

 

Oh the lan has just the yellow lines going nowhere. The setup is router, one managed and one unmanaged switch. Two airport extremes take care of wireless.

[pl_svn]

hi all

 

was asked, in the AC Filtering etc. thread, to post my messy system's scheme here too so, even though I'm not sure why ... here it comes:

 

 

 

[Cornan]

I will receive my Peaktech 2240 isolation transformer with floating secondary today. Here is a new spagetti image how I am planning to put it together.

 

[pl_svn]

ok, re my system... John Swenson sees, in my setup, a leakage through pre/dac/JS2/power strip which might be *attenuated* (... only attenuated? :-| ) by connecting the JS-2 to the same balanced transformer my pre and amplifier are connected to

 

all I need, to accomplish the above, is a m/f IEC power cord

though... I'm not sure my 1000VA transformer has juice enough for all those

(and also... next year I'll, hopefully, get a new pre and two mono power amps. still all tubes)

 

what about, instead:

a) powering the DAC from the HD-Plex or...

b) get another (Airlink?) balanced transformer for (both) the JS-2 (and)/or HD-Plex?

 

advice very welcome

[Cornan]

ok, re my system... John Swenson sees, in my setup, a leakage through pre/dac/JS2/power strip which might be *attenuated* (... only attenuated? :-| ) by connecting the JS-2 to the same balanced transformer my pre and amplifier are connected to

 

all I need, to accomplish the above, is a m/f IEC power cord

though... I'm not sure my 1000VA transformer has juice enough for all those

(and also... next year I'll, hopefully, get a new pre and two mono power amps. still all tubes)

 

what about, instead:

a) powering the DAC from the HD-Plex or...

b) get another (Airlink?) balanced transformer for (both) the JS-2 (and)/or HD-Plex?

 

advice very welcome

 

Nice stuff you´ve got pl_svn!

Is it difficult to know what possibillities you´ve got. Can you for example move the second star wired strip (connected to DAC 2) and connect it to a second socket in the Wall (Schuko)? If possible try to separate AC & DC connected devices in different power strips.

Ofcourse an additional Airlink BPS or similar would be better...but will cost you some.

[pl_svn]

Nice stuff you´ve got pl_svn!

Is it difficult to know what possibillities you´ve got. Can you for example move the second star wired strip (connected to DAC 2) and connect it to a second socket in the Wall (Schuko)? If possible try to separate AC & DC connected devices in different power strips.

Ofcourse an additional Airlink BPS or similar would be better...but will cost you some.

hi Cornan, and... thanks

 

unfortunately, close enough to everything and without creating overlaps between power and speaker cables runs, there only are those two wall sockets I'm already using: one Schuko and one 3 pins EU (originally there were three EU but I replaced two with the Schuko)

 

after John's post, yesterday, I had a look at those Airlink BPS and... might get one to replace the second power strip (each only holds 4 Schuko plugs) and connect both UpTone's JS-2 and Vinnie Rossi's LPS to it

 

also... not sure if I better get a plain IT or a balanced one (the Alpha Core BPS was a deal I found while looking for just a plain IT)

 

I would, this way, end up with a single power strip holding everything: two BPSs (or one BPS and one IT), one LPS and the ("secondary") DAC

 

might this work? :nervous:

[lmitche]

ok, re my system... John Swenson sees, in my setup, a leakage through pre/dac/JS2/power strip which might be *attenuated* (... only attenuated? :-| ) by connecting the JS-2 to the same balanced transformer my pre and amplifier are connected to

 

all I need, to accomplish the above, is a m/f IEC power cord

though... I'm not sure my 1000VA transformer has juice enough for all those

(and also... next year I'll, hopefully, get a new pre and two mono power amps. still all tubes)

 

what about, instead:

a) powering the DAC from the HD-Plex or...

b) get another (Airlink?) balanced transformer for (both) the JS-2 (and)/or HD-Plex?

 

advice very welcome

Hi pl_svn,

 

It's simple enough to plug the JS-2 into the BP30. Why not just try it? I have every one of my components plugged into the BP30. This includes my class A amp. Your are likely to hear an immediate improvement in sound quality with the broken ground loop.

 

Larry

[pl_svn]

Hi Larry

 

yes: it is very easy indeed (all I need is the right power cord: my BP-30 has IEC sockets)

though, as I said, my only concern is about the BP-30 safely and comfortably handling all that :nervous:

[Cornan]

Hi pl_svn,

 

It's simple enough to plug the JS-2 into the BP30. Why not just try it? I have every one of my components plugged into the BP30. This includes my class A amp. Your are likely to hear an immediate improvement in sound quality with the broken ground loop.

 

Larry

+1 if possible it is a good idea Imitche! It will surely brake the loop and likely sound better than my suggestion.

 

also... not sure if I better get a plain IT or a balanced one (the Alpha Core BPS was a deal I found while looking for just a plain IT)

 

I would, this way, end up with a single power strip holding everything: two BPSs (or one BPS and one IT), one LPS and the ("secondary") DAC

 

might this work? :nervous:

 

Well, this is not an easy question to answer. So many different opinions out there.

Listening to JS and Alex C it should be a isolation transformer with floating secondary only....connected to a unfiltered power strip.

There is many other opinions regarding this matter as well that includes balanced BPS, IT w/grounded secondary etc) that could makes your head spin. Anyway, personally I have descided to go for unshielded AC cables and a IT with a floating secondary. Pretty soon I will now if it is a good option for me...but even after I have tried it will still be difficult to know if it will be the very best option. I strongly beleive in a "simple" approach...and my setup is simply the least complicated that I could come up with!

[Cebolla]

I will receive my Peaktech 2240 isolation transformer with floating secondary today. Here is a new spagetti image how I am planning to put it together.

 

Hi Cornan.

 

In keeping with this thread's title, I've a suggestion for a possible correction to the wireless side of your proposed system's topology. Under normal operation, the Auralic Aries Mini and the control point app that you have running on the Nexus 7 Android device (presumably the BubbleDS Next app in your sig) would use the WiFi network to communicate with each other.

 

They would only use a direct wireless connection to each other when you first use the Auralic's own Lightning DS controller app to configure the Aries Mini to recognise & thereafter connect to your WiFi network (though of course that would have to be on an iOS device, as there's no current version of Lightning DS for Android).

 

It's especially important to show a correct network topology if you are using wireless extenders, as it highlights which devices to check, should the communication fail for whatever reason.

 

 

John

[Cornan]

Hi Cornan.

 

In keeping with this thread's title, I've a suggestion for a possible correction to the wireless side of your proposed system's topology. Under normal operation, the Auralic Aries Mini and the control point app that you have running on the Nexus 7 Android device (presumably the BubbleDS Next app in your sig) would use the WiFi network to communicate with each other.

 

They would only use a direct wireless connection to each other when you first use the Aries Lightning DS app (though of course that would have to be on an iOS device, as there's no current version of it for Android) to configure the Aries Mini to recognise & thereafter connect to your WiFi network.

 

It's especially important to show a correct wireless topology if you are using wireless extenders, as it highlights which devices to check, should the communication fail for whatever reason.

 

 

John

 

Thanks for your input John!

Here is a revised spagetti image with a better view over the wireless connections. I am using BubbleDS Next as my control point app for my Aries Mini and in order for it to work you´ll have to setup the wireless connection with the iOS LightningDS app. I setup my Aries Mini with the routers 5G connection and click to forget 5G on all other wireless devices in the household. My Nexus 7 Gen 2 tablet is the only wireless device which are using the 5G-EXT connection to the wireless extender. In fact no other device connected to the wireless extender at all...and I intend to keep it that way. Using this approach is the best sounding wireless option IMO.

 

/Micael

 

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[pl_svn]

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I think thread actually is about *power* connections

(... unless I got it all wrong once more )

 

 

 

EDIT: ooops, sorry: confused this thread with the "AC Filtering etc" one. blame it on the same peeps posting in both

 

:coat:

[Cornan]

I think thread actually is about *power* connections

(... unless I got it all wrong once more[emoji14])

 

 

 

EDIT: ooops, sorry: confused this thread with the "AC Filtering etc" one. blame it on the same peeps posting in both[emoji14]

:coat:

*Haha* OK pl_svn, blame it aaaall on me!

 

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