The Computer Audiophile Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Hi Guys - Looks like a really cool active system is in the works from Bryston. The system would consists of: • One pair of Bryston Model T Signature Speakers (no outboard passive crossover) • One Bryston BAX-1 3-Way Digital Active Crossover • Six (6) channels of Bryston power Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
semente Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I find it hard to believe that the slim performance gains by going active will be able to justify the tremendous increase in cost but interesting nonetheless... R "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
maurice Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Siegfried Linkwitz designs are active, I find them superior to my other systems Nelson Pass on the Linkwitz LXmini: "I spent a nice afternoon with a pair and would have to pronounce them as fairly spectacular" Linkwitz Lab - Loudspeaker Design Link to comment
GregWormald Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I find it hard to believe that the slim performance gains by going active will be able to justify the tremendous increase in cost but interesting nonetheless... R The people who made my speaker/amp system (SGR CX4F) are very strong on the advantages of active speakers. These include: amps custom designed to power the speakers, the ability to tailor the crossovers in ways that cannot be duplicated in passive designs, the efficiency of less lost power in crossover networks, very short speaker cables, etc. Talking to the designer of Linn's Kaber speakers, he said that by going active they got almost another octave out of the bass performance and much smoother response all together. Of course the advantages are stronger if the system is designed as active from the ground up and not an "add-on". It would be interesting to experience the differences in person on well-known music. I don't doubt it will be significant. Greg Link to comment
semente Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 The people who made my speaker/amp system (SGR CX4F) are very strong on the advantages of active speakers. These include: amps custom designed to power the speakers, the ability to tailor the crossovers in ways that cannot be duplicated in passive designs, the efficiency of less lost power in crossover networks, very short speaker cables, etc. Talking to the designer of Linn's Kaber speakers, he said that by going active they got almost another octave out of the bass performance and much smoother response all together. Of course the advantages are stronger if the system is designed as active from the ground up and not an "add-on". It would be interesting to experience the differences in person on well-known music. I don't doubt it will be significant. Greg I understand the advantages of going digital, more so in such a case when you are using high-performance amplification with proper power supplies outside the speaker boxes (unlike most studio offers). My issue was whether the enormous cost of the "6 channels of Bryston power" + Bryston towers would outweigh the benefits of going active, when compared to a high-perforamnce though lower-priced system consisting of off the shelf "traditional" amplification and passive speakers. In any case I'd be interested to see how going active would affect the measurements since the digital filter might be put to good use in improving the "problems" (for a speaker at this price) of the Model T Passive. R "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
GregWormald Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yes, it does seem to be a bit of overkill to have one whole mega-Bryston driving a few little tweeters! Greg Link to comment
witchdoctor Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I use an all active home theater with 6 Paradigm Active 40 bed channels, 4 Paradigm Active 20 height channels, a Paradigm Shift active VOG channel, and one Paradigm Active CC. Every speaker is biamped and they go down around an octave further than their passive counterparts. Why not let Bryston just design the entire amp/crossover/speaker system for you? I find I saved money on both amps and speaker cables. Link to comment
witchdoctor Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yes, it does seem to be a bit of overkill to have one whole mega-Bryston driving a few little tweeters! Greg Generally a tweeter is driven with about a 50 watt amp while mid/woofers 150 watts or so. I don't think it is overkill in my active system, the tweeters just "soar". Check this article out. I imagine Bryston would do at least as well as Paradigm, their Canadian counterparts. SoundStage! Equipment Review - Paradigm Reference Active/40Â* Loudspeakers (7/2001) Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I find it hard to believe that the slim performance gains by going active will be able to justify the tremendous increase in cost but interesting nonetheless... It was always considered worthwhile with Naim speakers... Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
semente Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Naim isn't know for their speakers, though, and the measurements I've seen don't look promising. But I haven't listened to a pair since the SBL. R "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
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