I think I'm bored with audio now.

[Jud]

I agree that the most important factor in photography is the brain behind the camera but one does need an effective tool if we wish to get the job done (though like in audio that doesn't necessarily mean the most expensive).

 

Curiously I have never been interested in landscape photography, perhaps because even the best and most beautiful images fall short of being there by way too much...

I prefer found pictures with people on them.

 

R

 

It's very evident from your photo in this thread that the photographer was in love with the subject (in the sense of the composition rather than the person). Anything that wouldn't engender the same love in you would result in an inferior photo.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Have you tried printing your digital photos?

I find that paper is the right media for a photo to exist...

Yeah, I've tried printing digital captures, but that only gets me part way. It's about the journey and the process of creating the image. Plus, I can't replicate the look of my Hasselblad / Zeiss system with digital.

[mansr]

Yeah, I've tried printing digital captures, but that only gets me part way. It's about the journey and the process of creating the image. Plus, I can't replicate the look of my Hasselblad / Zeiss system with digital.

 

Could this perhaps be compared to some (apparently) cherishing the ritual of playing vinyl as much as the music itself?

[The Computer Audiophile]

Could this perhaps be compared to some (apparently) cherishing the ritual of playing vinyl as much as the music itself?

Totally right on. Images for me aren't about accuracy. It's about being creative and art. Audio on the other hand is about letting the artists deliver me the art and I try to reproduce it as faithfully as possible.

[semente]

I don't see landscape photography as an attempt to recreate the experience of being there. To me it's the creation of an artwork with the help of nature.

 

I can understand that but unless the images are of a graphical nature then you will always be representing reality.

In my opinion I find painting more adequate for the later.

 

R

[semente]

Totally right on. Images for me aren't about accuracy. It's about being creative and art. Audio on the other hand is about letting the artists deliver me the art and I try to reproduce it as faithfully as possible.

 

This is why poor quality cameras like the Holga or the Lomo are so much in vogue now: the goal is not realism but an or various effects.

There's also a trend of double-exposing film, or exposing colour rolls that have been out of date for decades, and others are cross-processing slide as negative.

The possibilities are endless...and then there's Photoshop.

 

R

[Audio_ELF]

I agree that the most important factor in photography is the brain behind the camera but one does need an effective tool if we wish to get the job done (though like in audio that doesn't necessarily mean the most expensive).

There's been some interesting projects / exhibitions of photographic work where the camera used was deliberately limits. Its about working within the limitations and finding a way around them. Like the challenges Chris referred to about using his Hasselblad ... I suspect the difference in the photos have nothing much to do with differences in the actual quality of the equipment, but everything to do with the different thought processes Chris has to go through to take those photos.

 

As for landscapes ... I used to think the landscape and countryside around here was pretty boring; but getting out and looking for things to photograph has made me appreciate what is here. Now its not the Yosemite's, its not even Eskdale; but when you actually look there is always something interesting going on.

 

Now I don't claim any great skill in photography ... but I enjoy it...

 

DSC_7904.jpg by Eloise, on Flickr

[semente]

It's very evident from your photo in this thread that the photographer was in love with the subject (in the sense of the composition rather than the person). Anything that wouldn't engender the same love in you would result in an inferior photo.

 

Thanks for that Jud.

Here's another recently caught "snap" for you:

 

[Jud]

I guess this can be compared to those musicians and producers that prefer using analogue gear and recording techniques for creative reasons.

 

R

 

 

P.S. Though in both cases one can achieve similar results with software.

 

I suppose George Martin and the Beatles were the most famous early progenitors of the "the studio is just another instrument" ethos in modern pop music, while Wilma Cozart Fine, Rudy van Gelder, etc., were avatars of the "record the event" ethos that tends to be favored by many audiophiles.

 

Mark Knopfler is an interesting contemporary case. When he gives interviews he's squarely in the "studio is an instrument" camp. He has a very well appointed studio in which he can and does record individual songs on different analog and digital equipment to give each song the particular flavor he's after. Yet many of his recordings are quite popular with audiophiles.

[Priaptor]

There's been some interesting projects / exhibitions of photographic work where the camera used was deliberately limits. Its about working within the limitations and finding a way around them. Like the challenges Chris referred to about using his Hasselblad ... I suspect the difference in the photos have nothing much to do with differences in the actual quality of the equipment, but everything to do with the different thought processes Chris has to go through to take those photos.

 

As for landscapes ... I used to think the landscape and countryside around here was pretty boring; but getting out and looking for things to photograph has made me appreciate what is here. Now its not the Yosemite's, its not even Eskdale; but when you actually look there is always something interesting going on.

 

Now I don't claim any great skill in photography ... but I enjoy it...

 

DSC_7904.jpg by Eloise, on Flickr

 

Agree.

 

"getting out and looking for things" was the greatest gift photography gave me. While I admit to being a crappy photographer, photography got me to go to places I never dreamed I would go, helped shape where I purchased my retirement home (still not retired) and photography animals like grizzlies and their cubs I thought only crazies would do. It also help drain my bank account.

[Audio_ELF]

"getting out and looking for things" was the greatest gift photography gave me. While I admit to being a crappy photographer, photography got me to go to places I never dreamed I would go, helped shape where I purchased my retirement home (still not retired) and photography animals like grizzlies and their cubs I thought only crazies would do. It also help drain my bank account.

I think even if you don't live somewhere with "crazy" animals like grizzlies and their cubs, there is a lot around even the dullest city or town that you never really look at. Photography can help you see the world around you in a new light.

 

A great example ... @accwai picture of the seagull above ... a common bird, but seen in a different light if you actually watch them for a while.

[findog3103]

There's been some interesting projects / exhibitions of photographic work where the camera used was deliberately limits. Its about working within the limitations and finding a way around them. Like the challenges Chris referred to about using his Hasselblad ... I suspect the difference in the photos have nothing much to do with differences in the actual quality of the equipment, but everything to do with the different thought processes Chris has to go through to take those photos.

 

As for landscapes ... I used to think the landscape and countryside around here was pretty boring; but getting out and looking for things to photograph has made me appreciate what is here. Now its not the Yosemite's, its not even Eskdale; but when you actually look there is always something interesting going on.

 

Now I don't claim any great skill in photography ... but I enjoy it...

 

DSC_7904.jpg by Eloise, on Flickr

 

Eloise, where is this place? Looks like Scotland.

[Audio_ELF]

Side note, I wonder why there is no equivalent to Fujifilm in Hifi, combining beautiful retro looks with up to date modern technology, great build quality and excellent usability.

How about ...

[Audio_ELF]

Eloise, where is this place? Looks like Scotland.

Waswater in the South-Western Lake District.

[mansr]

I think even if you don't live somewhere with "crazy" animals like grizzlies and their cubs, there is a lot around even the dullest city or town that you never really look at. Photography can help you see the world around you in a new light.

 

That's true even here in Southampton.

[semente]

That's true even here in Southampton.

What's Southampton like to live in with children?

I might move there someday as it's closer to the office.

 

R

 

Sorry for the OT

[Jud]

Thanks for that Jud.

Here's another recently caught "snap" for you:

 

 

You like to use depth of field in your compositions (at least these). So did I, back in the day when I was roaming around with a Pentax film camera. Took some spectacular slides of the Canadian Rockies and American SW. (Actually, some of the Canadian Rockies shots predate the Pentax. I borrowed a $400 camera from the woman who cut my hair before the trip. When I showed her the shots, she offered to give me the camera in exchange for photography lessons. I had to refuse; as I told her, the places were so beautiful I could have randomly clicked the shutter without looking through the viewfinder and come up with gorgeous photos.)

 

Have no idea where the slides are now....

[semente]

You like to use depth of field in your compositions (at least these). So did I, back in the day when I was roaming around with a Pentax film camera. Took some spectacular slides of the Canadian Rockies and American SW. (Actually, some of the Canadian Rockies shots predate the Pentax. I borrowed a $400 camera from the woman who cut my hair before the trip. When I showed her the shots, she offered to give me the camera in exchange for photography lessons. I had to refuse; as I told her, the places were so beautiful I could have randomly clicked the shutter without looking through the viewfinder and come up with gorgeous photos.)

 

That's a great story.

The first camera I used was also an all manual Pentax.

 

 

 

Have no idea where the slides are now....

 

I too thought I had lost all my black and white stuff but found it a couple of years ago in a box at my parents.

The slides have been safely ripped into a hard drive.

 

R

[mansr]

What's Southampton like to live in with children?

I might move there someday as it's closer to the office.

 

R

 

Sorry for the OT

 

Hard for me to say, I don't have any kids.

[Musicophile]

Theres an overused, but true, meme ... The Best camera is the one you can be bothers to carry with you.

And another one that is very true:

 

[Musicophile]

How about ...

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Doesn't do it for me, at least not as much as this:

 

[wwaldmanfan]

You like to use depth of field in your compositions (at least these). So did I, back in the day when I was roaming around with a Pentax film camera. Took some spectacular slides of the Canadian Rockies and American SW. (Actually, some of the Canadian Rockies shots predate the Pentax. I borrowed a $400 camera from the woman who cut my hair before the trip. When I showed her the shots, she offered to give me the camera in exchange for photography lessons. I had to refuse; as I told her, the places were so beautiful I could have randomly clicked the shutter without looking through the viewfinder and come up with gorgeous photos.)

 

Have no idea where the slides are now....

 

Jud, I liked your story, too.

I shot this back in the day, 28mm Nikkor.

 

[Jud]

Jud, I liked your story, too.

I shot this back in the day, 28mm Nikkor.

 

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Gorgeous. I've been there, and it really does look like that.

[christopher3393]

Side note, I wonder why there is no equivalent to Fujifilm in Hifi, combining beautiful retro looks with up to date modern technology, great build quality and excellent usability.

 

I'm not aware of any Hifi electronics brand that pulls this off as well as Fuji.

 

?

 

 

[Musicophile]

?

 

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Same comment as above on Accuphase (they both really have very similar approaches, with the beautiful VU meters etc.): I'm missing the affordability part that I should have mentioned in the first place :-)