Priaptor Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Personally, I think Apple is following the model of the ultra high end audio manufacturers and churning their customer base. True, no one is forced to buy anything, BUT, if you have bought into and are part of the Apple ecosystem especially after it being imbedded in most our lives over the past 9 years, it provides a barrier to change. My iPhone 6 Plus is now 2 years old and I see the competition releasing really nice screens, etc while Apple provides some minuscule update to a phone now 2 years old. Why because they can and they can churn their customer base. Kind of reminds me of Magico releasing updates to their updates to their updates just to mention one audiophile company that knows how to churn its customer base. Link to comment
new_media Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'm going to upgrade to the 7 because the battery on my 5S has become unreliable. I've already purchased a DragonFly Red that I plan to use with the new phone. Link to comment
Cycleman Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'm going to upgrade to the 7 because the battery on my 5S has become unreliable. I've already purchased a DragonFly Red that I plan to use with the new phone. Digital output, with Lightning-USB converter. DragonFly Red. Oppo PM-3. I'm real happy with that combo using my iPhone 6. So it will likely be just as good with the 7 or 7s or 8...whatever I get next. Dave, who's looking forward to 256GB for more music storage ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Music is love, made audible. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Link to comment
徐中銳 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've never owned an iPhone, but trust you too, to know/understand, have read/skimmed www.apple.com/iphone/ Or seen : Well, I don't need nor want one. Apple-portable-wise, am sufficient with my outdated iPod Touch (5th generation) « an accurate picture Sono pessimista con l'intelligenza, ma ottimista per la volontà. severe loudspeaker alignment » Link to comment
17629v2 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 My answer is a simple "No". Ardent Apple fanatic, but that does not mean I have to buy the latest gadget when it comes out. I am using headphones a lot with my iPhone (Grado GR10), but I just wait and see. Dragonfly looks interesting, but a bit cumbersome to carry around at this point in time.I guess over time a smart solution for the "non headphone jack" will come out; until then I am happy with my iPhone 6. If you get the Dragonfly, you can get a really small extension cord and velcro the DF to the back of your phone. That's what I do with my Samsung, but it should work the same with Apple. Link to comment
mrvco Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Mostly a tempest in a teapot unless you run your iPhone bareback. This will be good for case makers, expect to see lots of mobile dock cases with battery, DAC and headphone jack onboard. I've been off the iPhone bandwagon since the iP4. I'm waiting on the Nexus/ Pixl announcement. -- My Audio System Link to comment
realhifi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I don't think Steve Jobs would have approved this particular change as he was known as an audiophile. Greg Good point. That iPhone 3 was such a good sounding music player. David Link to comment
GregWormald Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I'm not interested in the phone, but curious if using the dongle means you can't charge at the same time? Like if I am sitting at my desk and want to listen through headphones, would I need to run down the charge? There is already a Lightning dock that charges the phone and has a headphone socket. Since charging requires a connection to a charger (so far no wireless charging) using a dock should be no great difference. Greg Link to comment
coot Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I use my landline phone about 6x/yr. No wireless. When I receive calls from someone using wireless it is 80% of the time a bitch trying to understand them due to dropouts and crappy voice quality. I will remain old school, thank you very much. Link to comment
Jay-dub Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 There is already a Lightning dock that charges the phone and has a headphone socket. Since charging requires a connection to a charger (so far no wireless charging) using a dock should be no great difference. Greg That will do for desktop use, at least for those who are satisfied by its headphone jack. I wonder if the DAC in the Apple Lightning dock uses linear-phase or minimum-phase filtering. It looks good too. The dock won't be usable in the car. Those of us with USB jacks in their cars for music players don't have any problem, of course, but those relying on the aux in of their cars will be stuck with a kludgy setup for a while if they want to use their iPhone 7 as car music players. Simplest solution? Use an older device as the music player in the car. Link to comment
burnspbesq Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I probably will upgrade to get an additional 128 gigs of storage. No 3.5 mm jack bothers me approximately not at all for use with IEMs; I was an early and enthusiastic adopter of the Noble BTS. Now if Apple will allow Audez'e to sell the Cipher cable as an aftermarket accessory so that I can use my Sine with the phone (I foolishly bought them without the Cipher cable), my wish-list will be complete. FWIW, I own a LH Labs Geek Out V2+ Infinity, which I can use to get better audio in situation where it's quiet enough to matter, but it's a little cumbersome. The Dragonfly Red looks like it may be worth bringing in for a side-by-said comparison. Office: MacBook Pro - Audirvana Plus - Resonessence Concero - Cavailli Liquid Carbon - Sennheiser HD 800. Travel/Portable: iPhone 7 or iPad Pro - AudioQuest Dragonfly Red - Audeze SINE or Noble Savant Link to comment
Musicophile Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I'll most likely stick to my current IPhone 6 until the battery has an autonomy of <half a day. The simple reason is that I can't do what I'm doing right now writing this: listen to the Qobuz app to check out the latest releases I just downloaded and charge the phone at the same time. I guess at some point some external manufacture will come up with a small portable external decent sounding lightning-DAC solution that has an integrated Y adapter for charging. Beyond that, in any case the the incremental value of the 7 over even the 2 year old 6 is just so minuscule that I don't see why bother in the first place (until, as said above, the battery issue forces me to). Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
mocenigo Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 No, not buying one this year because I buy a new iPhone every 3 years, and my 6+ is like new. So the next one will be a 7S (if the current naming scheme is kept) and in the meantime I will have an external portable DAC/headamp, so a camera connector will do the trick. I buy iPhones because of the security of the OS and the integration of the ecosystem. If I had an Android phone I would probably not store anything personal on it. Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Mostly a tempest in a teapot unless you run your iPhone bareback. This will be good for case makers, expect to see lots of mobile dock cases with battery, DAC and headphone jack onboard. You mean something like ... MusicBoost Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
mrvco Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 You mean something like ... MusicBoost exactly -- My Audio System Link to comment
gmgraves Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 As the topic; specifically based on the headphone socket (or lack of). Since Apple has it's own new wireless headphones, I expect nothing less. OTOH, I have never seen (heard?) a pair of Apple phones that I thought sounded like anything but crap. Why would these new "AirPods" be any different? Also my ears lack the fold of skin below the ear canal that ear-buds rest in, so I couldn't use them anyway because they won't stay in. That's not to say, that as usual, Apple's innovation in this field will spawn compatible, third-party phones that will meet a myriad of headphone application needs. I see, in the near future, over the ear, full size cans that are wireless, cans/in-ear monitors that are noise surpassing and wireless, and in-the-ear-canal wireless ear phones and everything in between including wireless, portable loudspeakers! George Link to comment
realhifi Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Interesting article on Apples wireless earbuds. It also appears that their Beats wireless headphones will have this capability. https://pooraudiophile.com/2016/09/apple-iphone7-wages-war-bluetooth.html David Link to comment
hornytoad Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I was hoping for an Apple announcement offering 24/96 streaming ! I really believe at this point that all the rumors back in December were nonsense . Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Interesting article on Apples wireless earbuds. It also appears that their Beats wireless headphones will have this capability. https://pooraudiophile.com/2016/09/apple-iphone7-wages-war-bluetooth.html The title of that linked article - Apple iPhone 7 wages war on Bluetooth: New W1 chip to define the future of wireless headphones - is slightly misleading though as the Wireless EarPods are Bluetooth, it's just the pairing that is enhanced by the W1 chip... Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 I was hoping for an Apple announcement offering 24/96 streaming ! I really believe at this point that all the rumors back in December were nonsense . They were nonsense! Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
hornytoad Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 They were nonsense! Since everything seems to moving towards music subscriptions , do you think someone ultimately will offer 24/96 as a higher priced tier ? After all ,Apple gets all files sent to them in 24/96 and then sadly compresses them. Link to comment
Elberoth Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I will use a dongle, although I'm not 'happy' about this. In fact I'm pissed. Adam PC: custom Roon server with Pink Faun Ultra OCXO USB card Digital: Lampizator Horizon DAC Amp: Dan D'Agostino Momentum Stereo Speakers: Magcio M3 Link to comment
duxservit Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Life's not going to be that bad with iPhone 7 :-) Forcing a lot of people to pay $29, say, for this new cable is just great business :-) Let every eye ear negotiate for itself and trust no agent. (Shakespeare) The things that we love tell us what we are. (Aquinas) Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 They don't have to pay, it comes free with the phone. UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
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