Angular Mo Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I read about this device recently, and it is described as an endpoint. Roon newbie questions; what is the difference between a Roon Server and a Roon Endpoint? if I store my music on a NAS, do I still need Roon Server hardware, or is Roon Server software that I can install on my Netgear Ready Cloud NAS? Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Start with this: https://roonlabs.com/howroonworks.html Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
Angular Mo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Thank you. any more reading suggestions, please? Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 any more reading suggestions, please? https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/134479?hl=en Sorry, couldn't resist. Just Google "Roon review" and read a few reviews. Also at the bottom of that page I suggested previously, see the What's Next section. Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 if I store my music on a NAS, do I still need Roon Server hardware, or is Roon Server software that I can install on my Netgear Ready Cloud NAS? You won't be able to install Roon Server on that NAS. So you will need to run it a Mac or PC. I run Roon Server on a Mac while my music is on a Synology NAS. I use a bunch of different devices to control Roon (iPhone, iPad, MacBook Air). Depends on which is in closest proximity. Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
Angular Mo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Sorry I asked for help here. Link to comment
pvanosta Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I too found Roon confusing. Here is my understanding of things today (someone will correct me if wrong): - Roonserver can run on SOME NAS, but I don't believe your Netgear is one of them. Compatible NAS which support Roonserver today, are either Synology or QNAP. - This means you must run Roonserver on a PC or laptop which connects to the library on your NAS - using a Roon control app (running on Tablet or even smartphone), you can scan, search, browse your music library and push the signal to a Roon Control point (a device which is supported by Roon and which acts as the DAC to convert the signal to analog audio. Link to comment
orgel Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I too found Roon confusing. Here is my understanding of things today (someone will correct me if wrong):- Roonserver can run on SOME NAS, but I don't believe your Netgear is one of them. Compatible NAS which support Roonserver today, are either Synology or QNAP. This is correct. See here for some more info. - This means you must run Roonserver on a PC or laptop which connects to the library on your NAS This is correct, as long as by "PC or laptop" you mean a fairly capable computer that runs Windows, macOS, or Linux. See here for some more info. - using a Roon control app (running on Tablet or even smartphone), you can scan, search, browse your music library and push the signal to a Roon Control point (a device which is supported by Roon and which acts as the DAC to convert the signal to analog audio. This needs a little clarification, IMO. You can control Roon by running the full-fledged Roon application (Roon Server plus a GUI) on a laptop or desktop computer (which can be performing just the control function or both the control and server functions). You can also control Roon using Roon Remote on a fairly large number of iOS and Android tablets and phones. (You can find hardware requirements on the Roon community site.) It's worth noting that on iOS, the phone app has a subset of the functionality one gets with the iPad or Android apps. Roon or Roon Server is always what "push[es] the signal to a Roon" endpoint (not a control point). A Roon endpoint may or may not include a built-in DAC. I don't have hard data, but my overall impression is that most Roon endpoints do not include a built-in DAC (e.g., Auralic Aries, exaSound PlayPoint, Sonore microRendu & Sonicorbiter SE, Raspberry Pi). One example of a Roon endpoint that has a built-in DAC is a PS DirectStream DAC with a Bridge II installed; another is a Raspberry Pi with a DAC add-on card. Use of an endpoint is optional, since you can connect a DAC directly to a desktop or laptop running Roon and use the software that way with no issues. One big advantage of having endpoints in the system is that they can be connected via Ethernet (so you can have multiple endpoints scattered around your home); another is that they have the potential to improve SQ. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
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