joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 For my birthday I received a Mobile Fidelity version of Who's Next . . . absolutely the best version I've ever heard, including SACD. Having said that, every track ripped perfectly except for the very last track. The last track simply won't play without bad interruptions, skips, etc. There are a couple of tiny/light scratches close to the perimeter of the disc that I'm guessing are the offending parts of the disc. I have the option to return the disc but I don't want to . . . unless I can't repair the last track. Does anyone have a very reliable method for remedying a situation like mine? Thanks in advance for your help. Joel Link to comment
musicfan145 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 How old is the disc? When ripping CDs that are 15+ years old, I've had more problems with the degradation of the media than with scratches, and this problem usually happens on the last track or two. Link to comment
Jud Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 For my birthday I received a Mobile Fidelity version of Who's Next . . . absolutely the best version I've ever heard, including SACD. Having said that, every track ripped perfectly except for the very last track. The last track simply won't play without bad interruptions, skips, etc. There are a couple of tiny/light scratches close to the perimeter of the disc that I'm guessing are the offending parts of the disc. I have the option to return the disc but I don't want to . . . unless I can't repair the last track. Does anyone have a very reliable method for remedying a situation like mine? Thanks in advance for your help. Joel I've done some research, and the methods I've found, both machines available for purchase and "home grown" methods like using toothpaste, seem to be somewhat hit and miss. So it depends on how instant you want your gratification (a completely playable disc). I don't know whether the disc would be accepted for refund if you tried repairing it yourself, since all of these methods other than simply cleaning the CD involve polishing with something mildly abrasive like toothpaste. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 How old is the disc? When ripping CDs that are 15+ years old, I've had more problems with the degradation of the media than with scratches, and this problem usually happens on the last track or two. A quick search indicates a 1999 release date so that could be the issue. Thanks for the reply. Joel Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 For my birthday I received a Mobile Fidelity version of Who's Next . . . absolutely the best version I've ever heard, including SACD. Having said that, every track ripped perfectly except for the very last track. The last track simply won't play without bad interruptions, skips, etc. There are a couple of tiny/light scratches close to the perimeter of the disc that I'm guessing are the offending parts of the disc. I have the option to return the disc but I don't want to . . . unless I can't repair the last track. Does anyone have a very reliable method for remedying a situation like mine? Thanks in advance for your help. Joel Increase the ripping speed on the last track. Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 I've done some research, and the methods I've found, both machines available for purchase and "home grown" methods like using toothpaste, seem to be somewhat hit and miss. So it depends on how instant you want your gratification (a completely playable disc). I don't know whether the disc would be accepted for refund if you tried repairing it yourself, since all of these methods other than simply cleaning the CD involve polishing with something mildly abrasive like toothpaste. I appreciate it, Jud. That's why I asked. I'd hate to end up with a non-returnable disc. Still, finding these discs at a semi-reasonable price is tough. Joel Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Increase the ripping speed on the last track. Thanks for the suggestion, alfe. How do you do that? Joel Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 A quick search indicates a 1999 release date so that could be the issue. Thanks for the reply. Joel Pressed CD from Arizona aging test can last 200 years. Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Thanks for the suggestion, alfe. How do you do that? Joel Which ripping software are you using? Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Thanks for the suggestion, alfe. How do you do that? Joel Dbpoweramp, but to save this disc, I'm willing to try something else. Joel Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I've done some research, and the methods I've found, both machines available for purchase and "home grown" methods like using toothpaste, seem to be somewhat hit and miss. So it depends on how instant you want your gratification (a completely playable disc). I don't know whether the disc would be accepted for refund if you tried repairing it yourself, since all of these methods other than simply cleaning the CD involve polishing with something mildly abrasive like toothpaste. Toothpaste? Link to comment
Jud Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Toothpaste? Automobile buffing compound has also been suggested. Yes, really. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Dbpoweramp, but to save this disc, I'm willing to try something else. Joel Get rid of secure mode, C pointers and use maximum speed. Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Automobile buffing compound has also been suggested. Yes, really. I also heard garlic, olive oil and other funny stuff:) Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Get rid of secure mode, C pointers and use maximum speed. Fantastic, alfe. Can't wait to give this a shot. Regardless of how it goes, thanks a lot. Joel Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Get rid of secure mode, C pointers and use maximum speed. Looks like I was already ripping at maximum speed with no secure mode. I don't see an option regarding "C pointers". Joel Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Looks like I was already ripping at maximum speed with no secure mode. I don't see an option regarding "C pointers". Joel C pointers are part of secure mode. Are you in burst mode? check out interpolation, if you can't rip, then try with iTunes . Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 C pointers are part of secure mode.Are you in burst mode? check out interpolation, if you can't rip, then try with iTunes . I am in burst mode, alfe. I'll try your suggestions. Thanks for hanging in there with me on this. Joel Link to comment
mac_and_dac Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Long shot, but you could try reading the CD using a different machine, if you have one. I've got a PC, an Oppo BDP player, and an old Sony SACD player at home, there is some variability in how they read scratched CD's. Front End: Neet Airstream Digital Processing: Chord Hugo M-Scaler DAC: Chord Dave Amplification: Cyrus Mono x300 Signatures Speakers: Kudos Titan T88 Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Long shot, but you could try reading the CD using a different machine, if you have one. I've got a PC, an Oppo BDP player, and an old Sony SACD player at home, there is some variability in how they read scratched CD's. I think that's a great suggestion and if alfe's suggestions don't work on my current machine, it certainly couldn't hurt to try different players. Thanks for the idea. Joel Link to comment
Axiom05 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Do you see any "bronzing" around the edge of the disc? This is a brownish color and indicates oxidation of the aluminum. This effects the last track & sounds like an LP with a scratch: chick, chick, chick etc. If so, there is nothing you can do. The scratches you describe down sound that bad. Are they radial or following the data spiral? Main System: [Synology DS216, Rpi-4b LMS (pCP)], Holo Audio Red, Ayre QX-5 Twenty, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-5 Twenty, Revel Ultima Studio2, Iconoclast speaker cables & interconnects, RealTraps acoustic treatments Living Room: Sonore ultraRendu, Ayre QB-9DSD, Simaudio MOON 340iX, B&W 802 Diamond Link to comment
joelha Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Do you see any "bronzing" around the edge of the disc? This is a brownish color and indicates oxidation of the aluminum. This effects the last track & sounds like an LP with a scratch: chick, chick, chick etc. If so, there is nothing you can do. The scratches you describe down sound that bad. Are they radial or following the data spiral? That's the funny thing. I don't see any defects or discoloration. It's hard to understand why the last track won't play properly. Joel Link to comment
mac_and_dac Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 That's the funny thing. I don't see any defects or discoloration. It's hard to understand why the last track won't play properly. Joel The CD player motor spins a CD slower as it reads outward, so there are other variables at play. Whether a slight warp could cause a problem in that regard I really don't know, but it's interesting that the problem is on the outside track and no scratches are visible. Front End: Neet Airstream Digital Processing: Chord Hugo M-Scaler DAC: Chord Dave Amplification: Cyrus Mono x300 Signatures Speakers: Kudos Titan T88 Link to comment
avta Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I've used a gadget called SkipDr. and have had good results in the past although I haven't used it in years. I think they are still made however. Link to comment
alfe Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Try this: https://www.oemailrecovery.com/cd_recovery.html If you are a mac user: http://www.stellarinfo.com/mac-software/cd-dvd-recovery-mac.php Link to comment
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