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Seems like it's just a rebranding of the Itona in a different case. Nothing against it, just an observation.

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I wonder if it is Intona's Industrial version that is used?

 

I think is the Industrial version, both have 2.5kV isolation

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And of those I mentioned, I believe only the LANRover provides galvanic isolation, but unfortunately it has proved incompatible with my Esoteric K-03X DAC.

 

 

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The Intona does as well, that's what makes it different than all the rest.

 

From what I gathered, after finding this and comparing the boards, they're exactly the same. The Jplay one is just in a 1000 times better looking and better matching case. Plus, with the Jplay member discount it's basically the same price as the Industrial version of until Intona, otherwise it's +$70 usd.

 

I like Jplay's angle, they work with the best private manufacturer of a given product in a field, then make a Jplay version. They've made some awesome collaborations so far, so I'm happy with this one and I've really got to think it over vs. other AOIP solutions that are building steam.

 

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The Intona does as well, that's what makes it different than all the rest.

 

From what I gathered, after finding this and comparing the boards, they're exactly the same. The Jplay one is just in a 1000 times better looking and better matching case. Plus, with the Jplay member discount it's basically the same price as the Industrial version of until Intona, otherwise it's +$70 usd.

 

I like Jplay's angle, they work with the best private manufacturer of a given product in a field, then make a Jplay version. They've made some awesome collaborations so far, so I'm happy with this one and I've really got to think it over vs. other AOIP solutions that are building steam.

 

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I believe the LANRover isolation is actually the media conversion to Ethernet which intrinsically contain galvanic isolation as part of the Ethernet standard.

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Great news. I have the Intona industrial (cannot recommend it highly enough !), but I'm gonna buy the JCAT USB Isolator simply because I like the case 100x better.

 

Plus, beeing made of metal, not plastic, I think it should offer better protection against RFI/EMI.

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I lined my Intona Industrial inside with copper RFI/EMI shielding tape. Agree the new box is nicer but mine is hidden from view so I'll stay as is.

 

 

 

Great news. I have the Intona industrial (cannot recommend it highly enough !), but I'm gonna buy the JCAT USB Isolator simply because I like the case 100x better.

 

Plus, beeing made of metal, not plastic, I think it should offer better protection against RFI/EMI.

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The more items like these pop up the more I ask myself if USB is suited for audio. Maybe I'll stick with coax or optical.

 

There aren't many options with a hard-wired computer as your server. USB/S-PDIF converters are becoming extinct, and optical has its limitations. Everyone's one the USB bandwagon now, but there's already talk of USB itself becoming obsolete.

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There aren't many options with a hard-wired computer as your server. USB/S-PDIF converters are becoming extinct, and optical has its limitations. Everyone's one the USB bandwagon now, but there's already talk of USB itself becoming obsolete.

 

Not so long ago I bought an Auralic Arie LE. It has spdif, optical, aes/ebu and usb outputs. Currently I use aes however I want to replace my dac. Many new DACs within mu prices range do not support aes. So given the other choices what output would you use?

 

I'm look at the Musette and Gumby.

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Not so long ago I bought an Auralic Arie LE. It has spdif, optical, aes/ebu and usb outputs. Currently I use aes however I want to replace my dac. Many new DACs within mu prices range do not support aes. So given the other choices what output would you use?

 

I'm look at the Musette and Gumby.

 

You didn't say what your price range is, but if you don't need DSD, this one is similar to my M51 (a nice unit), for under $900. You can connect AES/EBU, also HDMI:

 

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$400?!

 

Is it really three times as "good" as a Regen? Is it twice as good? Half again as good?

 

10% "better"?

 

Those tweaks are very system dependent. Even the Regen is not a bullet proof solution - some love it and some ... not so much.

 

In case of my system, Intona have brought a significant improvement - much bigger than changing the PC or USB cable. It was money very well spent.

Adam

 

PC: Hot rodded CAPS v4 Pipeline: Teradak ATX linear PSU, Jcat Femto USB card, UpTone Audio JS-2 + 2x LPS-1.2 combo, Jcat SSD battery PSU, Jcat SATA cable, TotalDAC D1 USB cable, SOtM sMS-200, W4S Recovery USB, Jcat USB Isolator, Win 2012, AO v2.10

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Those tweaks are very system dependent. Even the Regen is not a bullet proof solution - some love it and some ... not so much.

 

In case of my system, Intona have brought a significant improvement - much bigger than changing the PC or USB cable. It was money very well spent.

 

Fair point.

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