HOLO Audio Spring DAC - R2R DSD512

[jjkale]

Greetings.

Does the Holo Spring have galvanic isolation?

Thanks very much.

[scan80269]

20 minutes ago, jjkale said:

Greetings.

Does the Holo Spring have galvanic isolation?

Thanks very much.

Yes, on the USB input.

 

[rickca]

What ever happened to the DSD only DAC that Holo was talking about?

[Bimmer100]

20 minutes ago, rickca said:

What ever happened to the DSD only DAC that Holo was talking about?

The HoloAudio Cyan will be released the end of this month. And will have a dsd only r2r module or pcm only r2r module. One or the other. Also will include a src in case you would like to listen to dsd converted to pcm. Or with pcm module would be pcm converted to dsd. Take note whatever is on the r2r module will sound at its best. 

This Cyan will include a balanced headamp built in, along with 1/4 output. It is finished in the same look as our spring Dac yet a smaller chassis overall. Pricing will be very affordable. Unlike the spring, there will be no linear compensation tech, and costs were cut to allow r2r of your choice for one of the two... pcm or dsd exclusive r2r.  Then USB module is with xu208 xmos. 

 

Preorders will be accepted very soon. 

 

So hope this answer your question. It's been a bit more work to finish this project and we are quite proud of how it's turned out. 

[One and a half]

PCM to DSD would make more sense than the other way around. Been listening to this system for close to 6 years now, works very well.

[GUTB]

Extremely interested in the Cyan. I will certainly be trying it out.

[matthias]

5 hours ago, Bimmer100 said:

Also will include a src in case you would like to listen to dsd converted to pcm.

 

Does the DSD only version have the SRC too for converting PCM to DSD?

 

Matt

[giordy60]

DSD version will only NOS?

[57gold]

Bimmer - Will Cyan have variable outs for RCA/XLRs?

[giordy60]

headphone outputs there will always be?

whether or not you choose the version PCM or DSD?

the volume control is for your headphones?

[doraymon]

Signing in while waiting for my KTE Spring and KTE SU-1.

Thanks @Bimmer100 for the many questions answered and suggestions given.

[tboooe]

10 hours ago, Bimmer100 said:

Unlike the spring, there will be no linear compensation tech, and costs were cut to allow r2r of your choice for one of the two... pcm or dsd exclusive r2r.  Then USB module is with xu208 xmos. 

 Curious if there are any other differences, perhaps in the power supply etc?  Comparing DSD playback through Spring L3 vs Cyan are there any differences?

[rickca]

23 hours ago, Bimmer100 said:

The HoloAudio Cyan will be released the end of this month.

That's great news, thanks!  I'm looking forward to the details.

[Bimmer100]

On 8/5/2016 at 8:27 AM, orgel said:

 

Me too. It's perhaps worth re-emphasizing that the iFi micro iDSD is based on a Burr-Brown chipset, while the Spring DAC (and presumably the May) is R2R based. An R2R DAC that does DSD is a pretty rare bird, so that really piques my curiosity, especially since it's at an affordable (for me) price point.

 

Any plans to show the Spring and/or the May at RMAF?

 

--David

As far as I know, we are the only ones able to do dsd over r2r. And it's especially amazing on the spring since we proudly offer linear compensation. Imho the coolest feature without question. 

 

The may is still on the Dac drawing board... the Cyan has taken much longer for us to perfect. But we are happy with it! 

For those familiar with the spring, they will know when it's on OS mode it's running with the src... but not comparable to r2r with linear compensation (NOS)

 

te cyan will be NOS when using r2r, but does not have linear compensation. However the output is still quite nice and surpasses the majority of any r2r Dac on the market, even the very newest models Recently released. The Cyan has tremendous value!!!

 

but it's not really comparable to the spring. The power supply is not as advanced, the caps are not, etc. Many things were carefully planned to give maximum performance get required cheaper components to meet these goals. Nothing is per say, "cheap" or of poor quality, it's just not to the standard of the spring Dac. 

Its an moderate level piece of equipment. Yet will easily beat everything on the market in this price range. Oh will be very hard pressed to find anything better at this price range. We strive to bring ultimate bang for buck. And our customers can attest to this! 

 

I will def have one of these cyans in both pcm and dsd models. And will likely have the pcm model for my work shop Dac since it's nice and compact! And the amp is extremely capable! 

 

You can see the volume knob on the right, as it also allows choosing settings like high/low gain and nos or OS settings. An intuitive interface, and beautiful display like the spring Dac. 

 

Im sure everyone will be very happy with this HoloAudio Cyan. Those who want to get one on preorder, it will be mid October I will start with this. Along with unspublished special preorder special pricing.

 

so far we have about a 8/2 ratio of pcm/dsd interest. But if you are a serious dsd lover, it's truly special to hear dsd over r2r. Those with the spring will know this.

 

[guymrob]

Hi @ted_b

I'm not sure I've posted this question before I own a Holo Spring level 2, can it support up to 768kHz PCM via I2S input, or even when using SU-1? Thanks

[Bimmer100]

17 minutes ago, guymrob said:

Hi @ted_b

I'm not sure I've posted this question before I own a Holo Spring level 2, can it support up to 768kHz PCM via I2S input, or even when using SU-1? Thanks

No

24/384 for pcm

or dsd512 native

[Duy Le]

On 10/2/2017 at 10:27 AM, Bimmer100 said:

The HoloAudio Cyan will be released the end of this month. And will have a dsd only r2r module or pcm only r2r module. One or the other. Also will include a src in case you would like to listen to dsd converted to pcm. Or with pcm module would be pcm converted to dsd. Take note whatever is on the r2r module will sound at its best. 

This Cyan will include a balanced headamp built in, along with 1/4 output. It is finished in the same look as our spring Dac yet a smaller chassis overall. Pricing will be very affordable. Unlike the spring, there will be no linear compensation tech, and costs were cut to allow r2r of your choice for one of the two... pcm or dsd exclusive r2r.  Then USB module is with xu208 xmos. 

 

Preorders will be accepted very soon. 

 

So hope this answer your question. It's been a bit more work to finish this project and we are quite proud of how it's turned out. 

Is the R2R on the same league  of Spring ? I am sure that I don't want DSD.

[Miska]

7 hours ago, Duy Le said:

Is the R2R on the same league  of Spring ? I am sure that I don't want DSD.

 

Compensation is specifically needed for PCM R2R, because the resistors need to be very accurate.

[guymrob]

On 03/10/2017 at 6:08 PM, Bimmer100 said:

No

24/384 for pcm

or dsd512 native

Hi @Bimmer100

 

Someone at Roon community has some success when using Matrix X-SPDIF 2, not sure is SU-1 has some limitation here?

 

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/matrix-audio-x-spdif-2-usb-i2s-interface/29745/5

[jflemelin]

A question regarding the Vishay output caps. Has anyone tried to upgrade them? I'm thinking about the Jupiter HT capacitors (same awg as the Vishay's), but it could be another brand. 

 

If Tim from Kitsune reads this: Have you considered this upgrade?

 

Thanks

 

JF

[Bimmer100]

1 hour ago, jflemelin said:

A question regarding the Vishay output caps. Has anyone tried to upgrade them? I'm thinking about the Jupiter HT capacitors (same awg as the Vishay's), but it could be another brand. 

 

If Tim from Kitsune reads this: Have you considered this upgrade?

 

Thanks

 

JF

The short of it is.... don't do it  

that's my very strong recommendation and you can take it as you will. 

 

[jflemelin]

Well. That's simple enought. And 100$ saved. Thanks.

[jkelly]

I am very interested in a Cyan PCM to use with Tidal and Audirvana Plus my new fav source with my Holo Spring Level 3 w/ Crack and HD650. Hope the Cyan is as good at 44.1.

 

Jeff

[chsas75]

On 02.10.2017 at 6:27 AM, Bimmer100 said:

The HoloAudio Cyan will be released the end of this month. And will have a dsd only r2r module or pcm only r2r module. One or the other. Also will include a src in case you would like to listen to dsd converted to pcm. Or with pcm module would be pcm converted to dsd. Take note whatever is on the r2r module will sound at its best. 

This Cyan will include a balanced headamp built in, along with 1/4 output. It is finished in the same look as our spring Dac yet a smaller chassis overall. Pricing will be very affordable. Unlike the spring, there will be no linear compensation tech, and costs were cut to allow r2r of your choice for one of the two... pcm or dsd exclusive r2r.  Then USB module is with xu208 xmos. 

 

Preorders will be accepted very soon. 

 

So hope this answer your question. It's been a bit more work to finish this project and we are quite proud of how it's turned out. 

 Then USB module is with xu208 xmos. 

It bring question; how to implement xu208 to existing Holo Spring DAC?

[Jimi_Zine]

The Holo Audio Cyan sounds like it's what the world is waiting for. Why aren't more people considering the combined potential between HQ Player and this DAC with the native DSD module, meaning we'll be able to play our DSD audio natively to this R2R NOS DSD DAC and upsample our PCM in HQPlayer to DSD128/256/512 (depending on CPU/preference etc) and again send to the Cyan Native DSD DAC?

Will this be available in the UK soon? (London)

Regards