SACD Ripping using an Oppo or Pioneer? Yes, it's true!

[rbienstock42]

The optimum solution is to extract to the ISO first. This includes multi-channel information as well, should it be needed in the future. From this ISO, a DFF or DSF can be created at any time, in fact to extract a DSF from an ISO takes less than 20s per album, so it's not much of an effort.

 

Got it. But to clarify, I read in another part of this thread that with ISO2DSD you can rip a 2-channel ISO or a multi-channel ISO but not an ISO with both. Is there another tool that can do both at once?

[JediJoker]

Got it. But to clarify, I read in another part of this thread that with ISO2DSD you can rip a 2-channel ISO or a multi-channel ISO but not an ISO with both. Is there another tool that can do both at once?

No, ISO2DSD will handle ISOs with both stereo and multichannel, but it will not rip both layers at the same time. You'll have to do it serially. I doubt there's any solution that will do both simultaneously.

 

And to clarify, when creating an ISO of an SACD using any method, the entire SACD content of the disc (so, not the Redbook if it's hybrid)—including both stereo and multichannel, if it has both—will be contained in the ISO. This includes ISOs created using ISO2DSD. So, you can use it to both archive to ISO and then to rip the stereo and multichannel layers to DFF (or to DSF for the stereo only, but this is not recommended due to zero-crossing issues).

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Okay, just found this thread today. Own an Oppo BDP-105 connected via Ethernet to Windows 7 PC. Minimally computer literate, that's probably being kind. Was able to find my players IP address, was able to download Ted's files form his Dropbox account and put the two Autoscript files onto a USB drive. My issue is with the SACD Extraction file. I downloaded it and put it in a file in my docs, but I am unclear as what to do next. Another member, gills?, said copy the file to a drive on your PC. What drive? Certainly not my DVD drive. The right click menu, move to, doesn't give me the option to move the file directly to the HDD, so I am unclear as to what, copy file to a drive, means. If it means into a folder in docs or similar I have done that, but I cannot open the file, plus I cannot see the cmd extension either. I also have no idea how to get it to run. What am I doing wrong. After you have all stopped shaking your heads or laughing hysterically I would appreciate a little guidance if at all possible. Thanks.

[One and a half]

Okay, just found this thread today. Own an Oppo BDP-105 connected via Ethernet to Windows 7 PC. Minimally computer literate, that's probably being kind. Was able to find my players IP address, was able to download Ted's files form his Dropbox account and put the two Autoscript files onto a USB drive. My issue is with the SACD Extraction file. I downloaded it and put it in a file in my docs, but I am unclear as what to do next. Another member, gills?, said copy the file to a drive on your PC. What drive? Certainly not my DVD drive. The right click menu, move to, doesn't give me the option to move the file directly to the HDD, so I am unclear as to what, copy file to a drive, means. If it means into a folder in docs or similar I have done that, but I cannot open the file, plus I cannot see the cmd extension either. I also have no idea how to get it to run. What am I doing wrong. After you have all stopped shaking your heads or laughing hysterically I would appreciate a little guidance if at all possible. Thanks.

 

It's possible anti virus program has snagged SACD_EXTRACT.EXE and quarantined it. Is it still in the folder where you placed it?

 

Did you download the Sonore ISO2DSD program? It cuts out a lot of manual uncertainty.

 

The small (1-4GB is plenty) USB thumb drive must contain one folder called Autoscript in the root of the thumb drive and in that folder contains 3 files only as shown. The .TSS is the only file with the extension, the remainder have no extensions.

 

Autoscript

Autoscript.TSS

sacd_extract

 

Enclosed is procedure for a Cambridge CXU player, since I don't own an Oppo, the two are 99% the same as far as ripping SACD is concerned.

160724 SACD Rip instructions using CXU.txt

[pvanosta]

Okay, just found this thread today. Own an Oppo BDP-105 connected via Ethernet to Windows 7 PC. Minimally computer literate, that's probably being kind. Was able to find my players IP address, was able to download Ted's files form his Dropbox account and put the two Autoscript files onto a USB drive. My issue is with the SACD Extraction file. I downloaded it and put it in a file in my docs, but I am unclear as what to do next. Another member, gills?, said copy the file to a drive on your PC. What drive? Certainly not my DVD drive. The right click menu, move to, doesn't give me the option to move the file directly to the HDD, so I am unclear as to what, copy file to a drive, means. If it means into a folder in docs or similar I have done that, but I cannot open the file, plus I cannot see the cmd extension either. I also have no idea how to get it to run. What am I doing wrong. After you have all stopped shaking your heads or laughing hysterically I would appreciate a little guidance if at all possible. Thanks.

 

Let's make sure we are all talking about the same things.

There are two sets of files you need in order to extract the data from your sacd into an ISO file which ends up on your computer. One set of files go on a USB stick into your OPPO 105. The other set goes into a folder on your PC (assume the C drive to make it easy and call the folder sacd_extract).

1) Connect your player to your LAN according to the player's manual. Write down the IP address of your player. Check if you see your player in Windows/Network/Media Devices of your PC connected to the same LAN.

 

2) Copy the AutoScript folder to the root of a USB stick. You can leave your other files on your stick.

 

For a checking purpose, here are the AutoScript files for players with MT8580 chipset (eg. Oppo 10X):

*AutoScript

*sacd_extract

*AutoScript.TSS

 

3) Copy the sacd_extract folder to a drive of your PC connected to your LAN. Make sure your drive has enough free space for the SACD iso(s) to be ripped. With a text editor write the IP address of your player in the sacd.cmd file.

 

For a checking purpose, here are the sacd_extract files:

*sacd.cmd

*sacd_extract.exe

 

(Please note that sacd.cmd is only a text file of the following command line: sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.106:2002 -P -I

The IP address will vary based on the actual IP address of our OPPO in your network)

 

4) Turn on your player and turn off the Auto Play Mode and Auto Resume (or similar) in the Playback Setup. Connect your prepared USB stick to your player. The tray should eject. You can leave your USB stick in your player (it doesn't matter).

 

5) Close the tray with an SACD. Wait until the player recognizes the disc. Double-click sacd.cmd on your PC. The ripping process should start within few seconds and run at 2 - 3 MB per second.

 

When completed, the DOS command window will close and you should see the extracted ISO file on your PC, in the sacd_extract folder.

 

Most tools and network streamers do not know how to play or open ISO files of SACD. So the next step is to extract the ISO into its component DSF tracks. For this we use Sonore ISO2DSD.

Install, open, point to the ISO you have just saved and extract to DSF.

 

Done.

[lyapounov]

Happy to tell it works perfectly on my Oppo BDP-105D; with the last firmware (dated one year ago though; it is a European one)

 

I have been able to rip my collection, including the Bach Cantatas Suzuki Box-Set.

 

For this last one (55 SACDs) all ripping to ISO were done manually, but I wrote a little script to convert automatically all ISO into dsf, which ran overnight. I found the Front images and the Booklets for download on chandos web site (I had to search a little to get them, but they are free to download ;-)

 

This made me buying SACDs, the one being much cheaper on amazon than buying the dsf directly...

 

What fascinates me is the silence of the ripping; for those like me who have been ripping all their CD collection, it is so fun to hear no spinning noise at all !!!

 

All files playing on the Oppo. I use the Lumin app, and I created an openHome renderer using BubbleUpnp Server on my synology to access the Oppo from the app. It has a huge drawback : bubbleupnp is not gapless.

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It's possible anti virus program has snagged SACD_EXTRACT.EXE and quarantined it. Is it still in the folder where you placed it?

 

Did you download the Sonore ISO2DSD program? It cuts out a lot of manual uncertainty.

 

The small (1-4GB is plenty) USB thumb drive must contain one folder called Autoscript in the root of the thumb drive and in that folder contains 3 files only as shown. The .TSS is the only file with the extension, the remainder have no extensions.

 

Autoscript

Autoscript.TSS

sacd_extract

 

Enclosed is procedure for a Cambridge CXU player, since I don't own an Oppo, the two are 99% the same as far as ripping SACD is concerned.

 

No I didn't download the Sonore ISO2DSD program. I didn't see it listed in the link Ted posted. When I click on that link I only see the two Autoscript files and the sacd_extract file. I think one of the mistakes I made was I put the sacd_extract file onto my PC. It looked to me by the instructions left by Grills that that was the correct thing to do. Where is the Sonore program download located? I will attempt to follow the instructions you posted..

[pvanosta]

No I didn't download the Sonore ISO2DSD program. I didn't see it listed in the link Ted posted. When I click on that link I only see the two Autoscript files and the sacd_extract file. I think one of the mistakes I made was I put the sacd_extract file onto my PC. It looked to me by the instructions left by Grills that that was the correct thing to do. Where is the Sonore program download located? I will attempt to follow the instructions you posted..

You are correct. The sacd_extract file belongs on your PC because you will be extracting the data to that folder from the disc and over your network.

 

Sonore iso2dsd is a free download you can google.

 

Sonore APPS - ISO2DSD

[CatManDo]

What fascinates me is the silence of the ripping; for those like me who have been ripping all their CD collection, it is so fun to hear no spinning noise at all !!!

 

All files playing on the Oppo. I use the Lumin app, and I created an openHome renderer using BubbleUpnp Server on my synology to access the Oppo from the app. It has a huge drawback : bubbleupnp is not gapless.

 

Since most people here are using "superior" SACD ripping machines, I can confirm that even the cheap flimsy Pioneer BDP-170 is extremely silent in the process. Only a "tock" sound can be heard when the ripping starts.

 

I had planned to buy a new high end ($3000-5000 range) SACD player/DAC in the near future to replace my failing old Sony XA777ES and my dated DAC, but given how smooth the ripping works, I might buy a new DSD-capable DAC only. I have 1100 SACDs currently.

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You are correct. The sacd_extract file belongs on your PC because you will be extracting the data to that folder from the disc and over your network.

 

Sonore iso2dsd is a free download you can google.

 

Sonore APPS - ISO2DSD

 

It would appear that this is just all above my capabilities. Not sure why. Perhaps I am just not being very clear about the issues I am having or I am just unable to follow the instructions correctly. Or something else, I don't know. I appreciate the effort however.

 

When I click on the link that Ted posted at the top of page two of this thread I see three separate downloads. The Autoscript, the Autoscript. TSS and the sacd_extract. I wasn't able to send any of them unzipped directly to a USB drive. The option didn't come up. The only options that came up where to open or show in a file. I located and sent the two Autoscript files to the USB drive individually, but when I put the USB drive into my Oppo after turning off the auto play and auto resume, nothing happens. Man, I can't even get past that point. Oh and to answer a previous question my anti-virus has not quarantined the files or anything like that. Would love to be able to rip my sizable SACD collection, but starting to get frustrated and beginning to think the operation is beyond my very limited PC knowledge and skills.

 

Perhaps it is just time to give up on the idea. Too bad i was so exited, especially when everyone was commenting on how simple it is. Not simple enough for me apparently. Oh well.

[Deribas]

I am in California.

 

Of course I dont want to break any laws. I am still willing to pay someone for the trouble. Pretty please someone...

 

 

Ok where in CA? I can help you in you are in the Bay Area and want to drop off and pick up. Lmk

[pvanosta]

It would appear that this is just all above my capabilities. Not sure why. Perhaps I am just not being very clear about the issues I am having or I am just unable to follow the instructions correctly. Or something else, I don't know. I appreciate the effort however.

 

When I click on the link that Ted posted at the top of page two of this thread I see three separate downloads. The Autoscript, the Autoscript. TSS and the sacd_extract. I wasn't able to send any of them unzipped directly to a USB drive. The option didn't come up. The only options that came up where to open or show in a file. I located and sent the two Autoscript files to the USB drive individually, but when I put the USB drive into my Oppo after turning off the auto play and auto resume, nothing happens. Man, I can't even get past that point. Oh and to answer a previous question my anti-virus has not quarantined the files or anything like that. Would love to be able to rip my sizable SACD collection, but starting to get frustrated and beginning to think the operation is beyond my very limited PC knowledge and skills.

 

Perhaps it is just time to give up on the idea. Too bad i was so exited, especially when everyone was commenting on how simple it is. Not simple enough for me apparently. Oh well.

 

Let's not give up just yet. You have downloaded three files. I'm going to assume they are unzipped and in two folders somewhere on your PC (let's say C:/Downloads/Compressed/Autoscript and C:/Downloads/Compressed/SACD_extract).

 

The contents of Autoscript, you MUST be able to copy to any location connected to that PC. This includes a USB stick, unless this is a laptop from work where the usb ports have been locked out for security reasons or something. When you right-click on the files, can you:

1. select copy? If yes, can you

2. In Windows explorer, find the USB drive (e.g. E:/Kingston or E:/USB drive )? If so, can you

3. double-Click on the USB drive name and then right-click, followed by paste in the drive?

 

If not, please describe exactly what steps you take, as we are troubleshooting this blind.

 

The contents of SACD_extract, you copy somewhere on your PC in a location where you have room to copy and extract the large SACD files. Let's say at the root of C:, which means the SACD_extract files are now in a folder called C:/SACD_extract.

 

Next, inside the SACD folder, locate the SACD.cmd file. Right-click and open with Notepad. You will see a text file looking like this:

sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.106:2002 -P -I

 

Look at your Oppo setup on screen (on your TV) and note the IP address on the screen. Edit the line in Notepad to match that IP address and do not change anything else.

 

For instance, mine looks like this:

sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.19:2002 -P -I

 

Save the file. Disable autorun on your Oppo setting.

Stick the USB stick in the Oppo and cycle the power. The drawer should open.

Load a SACD and close the drawer. Nothing should happen.

On your PC, double-click sacd.cmd.

A black DOS window should open en in a few seconds, the sacd should begin extracting.

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Let's not give up just yet. You have downloaded three files. I'm going to assume they are unzipped and in two folders somewhere on your PC (let's say C:/Downloads/Compressed/Autoscript and C:/Downloads/Compressed/SACD_extract).

 

Actually they are in three folders on my PC.

 

The contents of Autoscript, you MUST be able to copy to any location connected to that PC. This includes a USB stick, unless this is a laptop from work where the usb ports have been locked out for security reasons or something. When you right-click on the files, can you:

1. select copy? If yes, can you

2. In Windows explorer, find the USB drive (e.g. E:/Kingston or E:/USB drive )? If so, can you

3. double-Click on the USB drive name and then right-click, followed by paste in the drive?

 

If not, please describe exactly what steps you take, as we are troubleshooting this blind.

 

When I right click on the Autoscript folder I get a full menu of options including send to. I sent the file to the USB drive that way. When I click copy nothing happens. I am running Windows 7.

 

The contents of SACD_extract, you copy somewhere on your PC in a location where you have room to copy and extract the large SACD files. Let's say at the root of C:, which means the SACD_extract files are now in a folder called C:/SACD_extract.

 

I have no clue how to copy to the root of the C drive. I saved the sacd_extract download into a folder in my documents.

 

Next, inside the SACD folder, locate the SACD.cmd file. Right-click and open with Notepad. You will see a text file looking like this:

sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.106:2002 -P -I

 

I can't get into the sacd_extract folder at all never mind the cmd portion of it. When I click open it gives me a whole bunch of options, including Adobe, won't work, Windows Media Player, won't work and Notepad. Tried to open in Notepad and what I see is a whole mess of indiscernible gibberish that looks like code, hundreds of lines of it, or some foreign language.

 

Look at your Oppo setup on screen (on your TV) and note the IP address on the screen. Edit the line in Notepad to match that IP address and do not change anything else.

 

I have my Oppo's IP address written down, but I can't get to where I need to to input it.

 

For instance, mine looks like this:

sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.19:2002 -P -I

 

Save the file. Disable autorun on your Oppo setting.

Stick the USB stick in the Oppo and cycle the power. The drawer should open.

Load a SACD and close the drawer. Nothing should happen.

On your PC, double-click sacd.cmd.

A black DOS window should open en in a few seconds, the sacd should begin extracting.

 

Hopefully I am supplying the information you require. I know it must be difficult to try and trouble shoot an issue such as this remotely. I truly appreciate all the effort.

[pvanosta]

No problem, let's take one further step back.

The files you downloaded, like sacd_extract which you can't access, right-click on one of them and in the options at the bottom, it should say properties. Click on that. In the window that opens up, one of the first data points will be File Type.

 

If it says 'File Folder' your files were extracted and ready to use, but that would also imply you can get into the folder and look at the two files inside. If on the other hand the file type says something like 'ZIP file', then you must first unzip the contents (right-click, followed by 'extract here')...

Let me know.

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No problem, let's take one further step back.

The files you downloaded, like sacd_extract which you can't access, right-click on one of them and in the options at the bottom, it should say properties. Click on that. In the window that opens up, one of the first data points will be File Type.

 

If it says 'File Folder' your files were extracted and ready to use, but that would also imply you can get into the folder and look at the two files inside. If on the other hand the file type says something like 'ZIP file', then you must first unzip the contents (right-click, followed by 'extract here')...

Let me know.

 

Yes I did that and all properties says is file, not file folder or zipped file, just file. Very strange. Perhaps all of this is due to an issue with my PC, even though it appears to be running normally, or perhaps an issue with the link that Ted posted.

 

I remember downloading some zip files not too long ago and upon right clicking on the file I was given the option to send the unzipped files directly to a USB stick. This was a firmware file for my friends Oppo BDP-83se. Don't worry I deleted that file and re-formatted the USB drive to fat32 before putting the Autoscript files onto it.

[himey]

Okay, just found this thread today. Own an Oppo BDP-105 connected via Ethernet to Windows 7 PC. Minimally computer literate, that's probably being kind. Was able to find my players IP address, was able to download Ted's files form his Dropbox account and put the two Autoscript files onto a USB drive. My issue is with the SACD Extraction file. I downloaded it and put it in a file in my docs, but I am unclear as what to do next. Another member, gills?, said copy the file to a drive on your PC. What drive? Certainly not my DVD drive. The right click menu, move to, doesn't give me the option to move the file directly to the HDD, so I am unclear as to what, copy file to a drive, means. If it means into a folder in docs or similar I have done that, but I cannot open the file, plus I cannot see the cmd extension either. I also have no idea how to get it to run. What am I doing wrong. After you have all stopped shaking your heads or laughing hysterically I would appreciate a little guidance if at all possible. Thanks.

 

After you plug the usb stick in the player, does the drawer open? That is the first and arguably the most important step.

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After you plug the usb stick in the player, does the drawer open? That is the first and arguably the most important step.

 

No, I mentioned this in another post I made after the one you quoted.

 

When I insert the USB drive with the Autoscript into my Oppo nothing happens.

[pvanosta]

Yes I did that and all properties says is file, not file folder or zipped file, just file. Very strange. Perhaps all of this is due to an issue with my PC, even though it appears to be running normally, or perhaps an issue with the link that Ted posted.

 

I remember downloading some zip files not too long ago and upon right clicking on the file I was given the option to send the unzipped files directly to a USB stick. This was a firmware file for my friends Oppo BDP-83se. Don't worry I deleted that file and re-formatted the USB drive to fat32 before putting the Autoscript files onto it.

 

I just went to the links posted by Ted on his dropbox. When I choose download, it downloads both directories as a single ZIP file called SACD.

When I UNZIP the downloaded file (choosing 'extract here', I get two directories or folders:

One folder called Autoscript with 3 files inside

One folder called SACD_extract with two files inside.

 

The three files from Autoextract are to be copied over to a USB.

 

The other two inside sacd-extract, you can put anywhere you like, as long as you remember where you put them.

 

Is that different from what you are seeing so far?

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I just went to the links posted by Ted on his dropbox. When I choose download, it downloads both directories as a single ZIP file called SACD.

When I UNZIP the downloaded file (choosing 'extract here', I get two directories or folders:

One folder called Autoscript with 3 files inside

One folder called SACD_extract with two files inside.

 

The three files from Autoextract are to be copied over to a USB.

 

The other two inside sacd-extract, you can put anywhere you like, as long as you remember where you put them.

 

Is that different from what you are seeing so far?

 

Yes, that is completely different than what I am seeing. I am seeing two download files inside a box. One is the Autoscript the other is the sacd_extractor. When I click on the Autoscript one it then splits into a second Autoscript file, the TSS one. That now leaves three download files in the box, each one needing to be downloaded separately.

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Yes, that is completely different than what I am seeing. I am seeing two download files inside a box. One is the Autoscript the other is the sacd_extractor. When I click on the Autoscript one it then splits into a second Autoscript file, the TSS one. That now leaves three download files in the box, each one needing to be downloaded separately.

 

Okay I see where I messed up. I didn't use the download button in the top right. I did now and I get a single zip file titled SACD, but when I attempt to Extraxct Here I get a dialogue box indicating there is some error or issue. Man.

[pvanosta]

Wow,

you do have more than your fair share of computer issues.

 

Ok, rightclick on the SACD zip file and try another option (like 'extract files'), or just double-click on the zip and see if it allows you to look inside...

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Wow,

you do have more than your fair share of computer issues.

 

Ok, rightclick on the SACD zip file and try another option (like 'extract files'), or just double-click on the zip and see if it allows you to look inside...

 

Okay, I managed to get the unzipped Autoscript files and the sacd_extract file onto the USB flash drive, inserted it into my Oppo and the drawer still does not open. I'm going back to bed,LOL.

 

I initially did not set my player to manual from DHCP and did not turn My Network off. Then did that tried it again and it still wouldn't work.

 

I don't know what to do now.

[pvanosta]

Leave the usb stick in the oppo. Turn the power off. Wait for it to go dark. Turn power back on. Does the drawer open?

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Leave the usb stick in the oppo. Turn the power off. Wait for it to go dark. Turn power back on. Does the drawer open?

 

No

[pvanosta]

Ok, now I am out of ideas remotely. Do you have anyone who shares your hobby or who is PC-savvy who can help you out on site? This really does work but any one of a little missteps can cause you to miss or misread a step and then it does not work...