miguelito Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 hours ago, BluRay444 said: Unless you know the file headers and trailers and eliminate them from your comparison you'll get an error. There's DeltaWave which aligns the bitstreams - it is designed for such kind of comparisons (http://deltaw.org). I tried it the other day but I seem to have run out of memory. NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 9 hours ago, miguelito said: I leave the USB thumbdrive with the Autoscript files plugged in permanently in the back. Not sure why people say to remove it. That was never a requirement, but more of a "best practice". Leaving the flash drive in means it will be read repeatedly by the player, and sometimes that would result in the player using the wrong mount point. The script specifies the following: CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sda1/AutoScript/sacd_extract_160 /) The Sony players in particular seemed prone to trying to mount using something other than sda1 with a repeated read in of the script, and so it was best practice to remove the flash drive because there was no penalty in doing so. This is touched on here by Dick Darlington. You can rip at least 6-7 consecutive SACDs with the flash drive removed. Failure after the 6-7 rips consecutive is a real thing, and is caused either by a memory leak in the executable, or perhaps by a periodic failure of the kernel module insertion. Whether or not it is better to leave the flash drive in or remove it to address either of those proposed reasons for the failure after 6-7 consecutive rips is not clear, but with the every limited onboard RAM these Sony units have, running 6-7 consecutive rips before the need to restart the machine seems reasonable. The mount point issue was resolved by a slight change to the script proposed by mindset: CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sd*/AutoScript/sacd_extract_6200 /) The above solution/explanation was in the context of the S6200/7200 compatible script, but you get the point there, and it makes perfect sense. Last related item is altering the AutoScript on a Mac using something like TextEdit will break it, use Notepad++ on Windows, or any other editor that gets around that CR/LF issue. Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
miguelito Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Kal Rubinson said: Only if there's a difference. 😉 Having some trouble getting DeltaWave to work even with simple AIFF files. Will have to figure that out. The MusicScope analysis and the listening comparisons indicate they are identical rips. NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
miguelito Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 9 hours ago, MikeyFresh said: That was never a requirement, but more of a "best practice". Leaving the flash drive in means it will be read repeatedly by the player, and sometimes that would result in the player using the wrong mount point. The script specifies the following: CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sda1/AutoScript/sacd_extract_160 /) The Sony players in particular seemed prone to trying to mount using something other than sda1 with a repeated read in of the script, and so it was best practice to remove the flash drive because there was no penalty in doing so. This is touched on here by Dick Darlington. You can rip at least 6-7 consecutive SACDs with the flash drive removed. Failure after the 6-7 rips consecutive is a real thing, and is caused either by a memory leak in the executable, or perhaps by a periodic failure of the kernel module insertion. Whether or not it is better to leave the flash drive in or remove it to address either of those proposed reasons for the failure after 6-7 consecutive rips is not clear, but with the every limited onboard RAM these Sony units have, running 6-7 consecutive rips before the need to restart the machine seems reasonable. The mount point issue was resolved by a slight change to the script proposed by mindset: CLI(CLI_exec cp /mnt/sd*/AutoScript/sacd_extract_6200 /) The above solution/explanation was in the context of the S6200/7200 compatible script, but you get the point there, and it makes perfect sense. Last related item is altering the AutoScript on a Mac using something like TextEdit will break it, use Notepad++ on Windows, or any other editor that gets around that CR/LF issue. Understood. What I will do is leave it attached permanently. If I get to a point where the tray doesn’t open automatically on power-on, I will detach and reattach the USB key which should remount it. NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, miguelito said: Understood. What I will do is leave it attached permanently. If I get to a point where the tray doesn’t open automatically on power-on, I will detach and reattach the USB key which should remount it. It should, or if not a hard power cycle always does and you don't even necessarily have to remove/replace the AC cord, with an S5100 you can also press/hold the Power button on the unit for 10 seconds and that will do the same thing. miguelito 1 Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
miguelito Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Honestly, I am so glad I moved over to this SACD ripping method - simpler, and I don't have to have this harddrive to burn ISOs to off of which I would then create DSF files. I did this rather than the network method bc I did not want to connect the PS3 to the network and suddenly have it update the firmware. This is so much better. Thx to all that created and guided this... chichaz 1 NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
austinpop Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 @MikeyFresh @ted_b Guys, could I request you put a link in the first post to where one can get the latest versions of SACDExtractGUI and sacd_extract.exe (if different)? I frequently send people who ask about SACD ripping to this thread. My Audio Setup Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Raj, I don't have moderator/OP status on this thread anymore, I think it's @MikeyFresh. He should see this soon.......thx "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, ted_b said: Raj, I don't have moderator/OP status on this thread anymore, I think it's @MikeyFresh. He should see this soon.......thx Good evening gents, I do not and have never had moderator/OP status on this thread. Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Popular Post ted_b Posted August 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2022 Well, we'll figure it out. I am not sure where a good latest SACDextractGUI is located, but if someone knows put it here and maybe we can move it to the front. austinpop and MikeyFresh 1 1 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted August 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2022 https://github.com/setmind/SACDExtractGUI#sacdextractgui is the current state for this branch. https://github.com/EuFlo/sacd-ripper/releases/tag/0.3.9.3 is a more up-to-date branch. austinpop, zyberguran and MikeyFresh 1 2 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
austinpop Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 11 hours ago, ted_b said: Raj, I don't have moderator/OP status on this thread anymore, I think it's @MikeyFresh. He should see this soon.......thx 11 hours ago, MikeyFresh said: Good evening gents, I do not and have never had moderator/OP status on this thread. Ted, Mike, I believe granting moderator privileges for a given thread is well within @The Computer Audiophile's powers, so I think we just need to ask. My Audio Setup Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, austinpop said: Ted, Mike, I believe granting moderator privileges for a given thread is well within @The Computer Audiophile's powers, so I think we just need to ask. I currently don't have the capability because the plugin hasn't been updated for a while. I'm working on a replacement for this functionality, . Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
austinpop Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I currently don't have the capability because the plugin hasn't been updated for a while. I'm working on a replacement for this functionality, . Ah, now I recall you having mentioned this. My Audio Setup Link to comment
Popular Post MikeyFresh Posted August 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Kal Rubinson said: https://github.com/setmind/SACDExtractGUI#sacdextractgui is the current state for this branch. https://github.com/EuFlo/sacd-ripper/releases/tag/0.3.9.3 is a more up-to-date branch. For the executable, I think the link to EuFlo's Github (the second of the two above) is sufficient, as that is the updated and enhanced version. The Setmind version hasn't been under active development in a long while, and is already linked to in various spots in this thread. For the Java-based GUI itself, that was only ever updated once in early March 2019 and so links already posted in this thread are still valid, but for posterity that part of the package can be found here: https://github.com/setmind/SACDExtractGUI/releases/tag/v0.1 austinpop, Kal Rubinson, ted_b and 2 others 2 2 1 Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
joelha Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Does the software hack for the PS3 and Pioneer, etc. units only work for SACD's or will it work for CD's and Bluray's as well? Maybe a silly question but (obviously), I don't know the answer. Joel Link to comment
joelha Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I just checked on my own PS3 and it won't rip a redbook disc using version .36. So unless a more recent version can rip redbook, I'll have to assume, at least for now, that it can't be done. Joel Link to comment
pl_svn Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 all you need to rip CDs is a computer and a CD reader (internal or external) + an app (eg. XLD, for macOS) Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, pl_svn said: all you need to rip CDs is a computer and a CD reader (internal or external) + an app (eg. XLD, for macOS) Sure but why is it relevant? Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
greynolds Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said: Sure but why is it relevant? There's no point in wasting the potentially limited life of a PS3, Oppo, or other supported device in doing something that can easily be accomplished on pretty much any computer. The ripping process that makes use of a PS3, Oppo, etc. was only intended to deal with the use case that couldn't be accomplished with a PC. Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, greynolds said: There's no point in wasting the potentially limited life of a PS3, Oppo, or other supported device in doing something that can easily be accomplished on pretty much any computer. The ripping process that makes use of a PS3, Oppo, etc. was only intended to deal with the use case that couldn't be accomplished with a PC. Agree 1000%. Joel (and others reading this) need to rip their blurays and cds on an internal or USB-connected external bd drive, but don't waste the wear and tear on the customized PS3 or Oppo/Sony. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, greynolds said: There's no point in wasting the potentially limited life of a PS3, Oppo, or other supported device in doing something that can easily be accomplished on pretty much any computer. The ripping process that makes use of a PS3, Oppo, etc. was only intended to deal with the use case that couldn't be accomplished with a PC. Duh. That process (using "PS3, Oppo, or other supported device") cannot rip CDs. So, it is not an alternative but an obvious necessity. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
greynolds Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said: Duh. That process (using "PS3, Oppo, or other supported device") cannot rip CDs. So, it is not an alternative but an obvious necessity. No need for the “duh” comment, Kal. I would expect better than that from you. Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, greynolds said: No need for the “duh” comment, Kal. I would expect better than that from you. Sorry, Too casual. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Crwilli57 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 To Kal’s defense I thought the same thing. If you read this thread from the beginning (boring), you would know this is about the special software and process to rip SACDs. Link to comment
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